Originally Posted By: Prometheus
 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
 Originally Posted By: Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
universal healthcare is a good thing. completely privatized medicine is about money, government run healthcare has more of an obligation to help the poor live.


We've been over this before, Ray. That's you're idealized image of government run healthcare, and it's bullshit. Current government healthcare is also about money. If it needs money to run it, it's going to be about how much money it spends just like privatized.

I'm not against government oversight, but I don't want it controlling it.


When you say government healthcare is about money, I assume you mean taxes. If so, then I have to say that higher taxes are okay with me, as long as I get a tighter, dedicated healthcare system out of it. Just saying...


No, I'm talking about how those dollars are spent. If you think a government run universal healthcare system is going to be more generous than privatized healthcare, you're sadly mistaken. Not to mention that you'd have a number of doctors who will refuse to see patients on government care and only those with private insurance or just cold hard cash. That isn't conjecture, it's a fact as many doctors now in America and even dentists in England are doing just that.

whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."