RKMBs Forums .::Important::. Politics and Current Events Sarah Palin for VP

The only way that an argument about experience works for you (the left) in this election is if you assume that a VP is running the show. Hence my observation that the argument for Obama-Biden boils down to an argument that the VP will be running things behind the scenes.

. Cheney is like an evil mastermind behind the scenes in a man-sized safe in his home (which was removed from googlmaps). The company he ran got several no bid contracts in Iraq. That will translate to a lot of money once he leaves office and cracks into the blind trust that he put his Haliburton stock into. Cheney is creepy, his experience always seemed to involve creepy things, the things he said were creepy. And he shot a man in the face and then kept it quiet for a few days.

it's totally different. Cheney is like an evil mastermind behind the scenes in a man-sized safe in his home (which was removed from googlmaps). The company he ran got several no bid contracts in Iraq. That will translate to a lot of money once he leaves office and cracks into the blind trust that he put his Haliburton stock into. Cheney is creepy, his experience always seemed to involve creepy things, the things he said were creepy. And he shot a man in the face and then kept it quiet for a few days.
I think bush and cheney are the most disgusting and yes evil men to occupy that office. I may talk about Mccain agreeing with bush and voting with him way too often, but i don't think anyone will ever be as bad as bush/cheney. you can't draw comparisons between biden and cheney.

The only way that an argument about experience works for you (the left) in this election is if you assume that a VP is running the show.

Putting aside our disagreements on whether or not Cheney and Bush are evil incarnate, you need to remember that, back in 2000, Cheney was generally thought of in terms similar to those in which you think of Biden: an well-respected foreign policy expert and old Washington hand, who was supposed to balance the alleged inexperience of the younger guy on the top of the ticket:

Not to mention that Cheney, if memory serves, was hired by Bush to find a good running mate, and after all that money, he said "MEEEEE!!!!"

She's pretty hot.

Her tits get my vote.

Four years of Vice President Boobs?

Sign me up for that shit.

the party that elected bush?

I totally agree that it's foolish for people to complain about her lack of experience. I alluded to that above.

However, I disagree with the rest of your post. The VP pick is just as important as the Presidential. The simple fact is that A VP CAN become President if something happens to the #1 honcho. That's part of the reason the VP is there. It's happened before, of course, and the VP-become-President was no less powerful or important than the man he replaced. And the VP choice is even more important in this election, since we're dealing with two presidential candidates with increased likelihoods of death during service.

So if you're going to say that Obama's lack of experience is a bad thing, then sorry, but Palin's is just as bad. If Palin's freshness is good, Obama's is just as good.

And the VP choice is even more important in this election, since we're dealing with two presidential candidates with increased likelihoods of death during service.

isn't that the plot of some romantic comedy? jennifer lopez a matchmaker who falls for the guy she's trying to set up with a girl.

i don't get how anyone supports him. the no bid contracts in Iraq that he gave haliburton will make him millions of dollars. it's unfortunately legal because he put the stock into a blund trust that he won't touch until he's out of office.

if you masturbated then you would understand.

You still haven't caught up with the thread, have you?

but VPs aren't really seen like that. no matter what comments are made about them being a heartbeat away from the job, VP picks are about seasoning. Adding some little touch that the candidate lacks, or having some demographic/regional pull the candidate may need to win.

What happened to your love affair with moderate or middle man politicians? Palin seems too right of center for you to identify with

This is exactly what I didn't want to hear from other people supporting my (reluctant) candidate; "There's a woman on McCain's ticket! This is cooler than sliced bread!"

Now I'm gonna be standing in the ballot line with a bunch of feminists who are only voting Conservative because there's a woman on the ticket. At least if it were Condi, I'd know feminists hate her too much to go for her as a woman, but with Palin coming out of left...Er, right field as a soccer mom, McCain's become all r0x0r and shit.

And then, of course, there's going to be a whole bunch of fucktards voting for boobs.

Fuck this! I hate myself even more for voting for this man now.

I'm still more right of center than left. Just because I don't share your zeal for killing Mexicans and not allowing fair immigration for all ethnic groups doesn't mean I'm not a Republican. I'm socially liberal and everything else is conservative.

A Governor makes more decisions in a week than a Senator does in 6 months.

There is a reason why many Senators that were shoe-ins for their party's nomination always somehow end up losing to a governor or earn the nomination only to lose the Presidency to a Governor.

Not in this case, actually.

Sorry, but I didn't see "I'm talking about the fact that a VP pick is potentially as important as the choice for President," earlier in the thread.

Who is at an increased likelihood? McCains cancer is in remission, and Obama is in peak shape?

Both. McCain is old and Barack Obama is black.

Gov. Sarah Palin has always been a runner. Her parents were marathoners and high school track and cross-country coaches. "Running was a family affair," she says. "I didn't have much choice. Thankfully, I've never tired of it."

Gov. Palin, a mother of five kids, says exercise is still very much a "family thing." She and her husband, Todd, also an athlete, named their first son Track because he was born in that sport's season. Gov. Palin (above, near Mendenhall Glacier, outside of Juneau) and her family live in Wasilla, about 45 miles north of Anchorage.

Workout


"Conventional running is my sanity," Gov. Palin says. Having recently given birth to her fifth child, the governor is trying to get back to her old workout routine. She was running 7 to 10 miles almost every day but switched to aerobics classes at her gym when she became pregnant. She has worked her way back up to running three miles every other day.

In the summer, when it's always light, she'll sometimes run as late as midnight. In the dead of winter, when it's dark, she sneaks in an afternoon run, or else grudgingly runs on the treadmill at home or at the gym in the evening. Gov. Palin keeps dumbbells at home, but she says most of her upper body strength comes from snowmobiling with her family. "It's the best upper body workout you could ever have," she says. "You're maneuvering through hundreds of pounds of powder." (Todd is a four-time champion of the Tesoro Iron Dog, the world's longest snowmobile race.)
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Brian Adams for WSJ. Magazine
Gov. Palin in Juneau, Alaska

Diet pitfall

"My family and I eat a healthy diet heavy in wild Alaskan seafood, moose, caribou and fresh fruit," she says. "I guess my biggest pitfall is breakfast. I know it's the most important meal of the day but I still haven't bought into it. I hate to admit it, but a skinny white-chocolate mocha is my staple in the morning."

Workout gear

"My ideal fantasy is to be running on a hot dusty road just wearing running shorts and some kind of top that wicks away sweat. But in reality I'm running in 20-below temperatures, so I wear layers of fleece and always a good outdoor waterproof trail shoe. Right now I've been running in Nike Air Structure Triax. And I always wear sunglasses. My kids tell me to put them on so I don't freak people out when they see me with a goofy hairdo and no makeup."

While I'm working out

"I'm thinking about my next speech. I usually write my best speeches and letters [in my head] while out running. That is my inspired time."

Postworkout food

"Nothing. I just drink water."

Workout pitfall

"Being pregnant every few years. If I get lazy and go weeks or months without exercising it's not because of circumstances but because I'm being less disciplined. Shame on me."

Not in this case, actually.


Well, it sure as heck ain't experience. Political experience hasn't been a major factor in a presidential election in a very long time.

So race and age make them more likely to die? McCain is pretty healthy, you dont just fall over becasue your in your 70's, you could but you are as likely as if you are in your 50's if your healthy.

Unless I missed something healthy black dudes in their 50's dont just fall over becasue they are black.

Either way Dude it will be historic and good for America. It's time to start thinking about other people to lead us instead of the same old good old boys. Obviously I'm for McCain and you for Obama but side by side we could live in harmony like ebony and ivory keys on a piano.

One thing that still irks me about Obama though is his lack of substance. Here is a guy many of us don't really trust and he keeps talking about change and how McCain's policies are wrong but yet he never ever gives a plan on how he would accomplish his goals.....he just attacks McCain. Even in his speech last night ( which I thought was a great moment for the country in all honesty ) All he did was attack McCain and try to give that weak really weak bullshit argument that this would be a third Bush term. No substance. He is relying on his rock star celebrity status but let me tell you he may get his ass kicked in the debates. Hilary put him in his place a few times.

Either way Dude it will be historic and good for America. It's time to start thinking about other people to lead us instead of the same old good old boys. Obviously I'm for McCain and you for Obama but side by side we could live in harmony like ebony and ivory keys on a piano.

One thing that still irks me about Obama though is his lack of substance. Here is a guy many of us don't really trust and he keeps talking about change and how McCain's policies are wrong but yet he never ever gives a plan on how he would accomplish his goals.....he just attacks McCain. Even in his speech last night ( which I thought was a great moment for the country in all honesty ) All he did was attack McCain and try to give that weak really weak bullshit argument that this would be a third Bush term. No substance. He is relying on his rock star celebrity status but let me tell you he may get his ass kicked in the debates. Hilary put him in his place a few times.

You do realize, of course, that you're trying to argue that McCain's advanced age doesn't make him more likely to die, right? I mean, I can understand it if you're trying to say he won't necessarily die. That's very true. But trying to say that a 72 year old is no more likely to die in the next 4 years than, say, a 50 year old?


The increased likelihood of assassination based on Obama's race.

Get me those whores you promised and I will consider your proposal.


I have to disagree. Obama spent a good amount of his speech last night outlining his goals as President. He outlined his plan as much as most candidates.

I should know, I've watched it twice so far.

According to NBC news, Obama and Biden both called to congratulate Palin. That's fairly classy as well.

I'm saying that a healthy 72 year old is not much more likely to fall over than a healthy 50 year old yes. People in their 70's are more likely to be unhealthy than those in their 70's but from what I understand his health is fine(this might not be true).

You do realize of course you're trying to say that a racist has a better shot at killing our President than Al Queda, Iran, or even the KGB right?

Pretty words wont achieve foals. It's like Bill Clinton said candidate A may represent all your hopes and dreams, candidate B may represent 50% of them but if candidate A cant achieve any of them and candidate B can achieve the 50% who is your better choice?

Bill Clinton also said Obama is the man to lead America.

So, the argument for Obama is "don't worry, someone will kill him and the we'll have Biden"? I can't believe that.