RKMBs Forums .::Important::. Politics and Current Events Sarah Palin for VP

Silly, P. The Greeks didn't invent good times. That was Norman Lear.

aint we lucky we got em.

When I was a kid, Good Times used to depress the hell out of me. We'd all tune in because Jimmy Walker was funny but then the rest of the show was always some drama about the father getting fired (or dying), the mother crying over something, the little brother getting in trouble at school, Janet Jackson getting beaten with a hot iron and all sorts of other dark shit.

Thelma was pretty hot though.

I agree it bothered me too....John Amos used to be a regular at our Diner back in the day. He used to live one town over.

He's a talented guy. The funny thing is that he was actually pretty young when he played the dad (only about 35) and they made him up to be older. No wonder he quit the show. Can you imagine having to pretend you liked sucking face with Florida every week? No one's that good of an actor.

John Goodman in Roseanne.

Roseanne's a dog, but Esther Rolle made her look like a prize.

Those fucking gap teeth were scary.

Brrr....all this talk about Esther Rolle...time to cleanse my mental palate with another pic of Sarah Palin.



One thing I really like about this is that everyone in the DNC is comparing their number one to our number two. It’s as if Obama were actually trying to be elected VP.

If the Dems are so worried about youth and inexperience, maybe they should just reverse the order of their ticket.

http://news.yahoo.com/story/ap/cvn_veepstakes;_ylt=AsAfowJc2MKfvxp4T7nOJ3lh24cA

So you vote based on experience, while I vote based on policy. There you go.

...and from what I've read her policies are actually pretty good. Unless you're a crazy socialist who hates America, of course.

Associated Press Analysis:McCain choice impacts energy debate:

• If Democrats hoped to paint Republican John McCain a pawn of Big Oil, their task has become a bit more complicated with the selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate.
  
  While an ardent advocate for more drilling — off Alaska, off the Atlantic and Pacific coasts and in the off-limits Arctic National Wildlife Refuge — Palin also has shown she's not shy about confronting the likes of Exxon Mobil, BP and ConocoPhillips.
  
  Palin, a popular governor in a state that for decades has been closely tied to oil, may be a political novice, but she is anything but a newcomer when it comes to these two issues. And her emergence as McCain's No. 2 and possibly the country's next vice president, could shift the campaign's energy debate.

you really strike me as too smart to fall for that.

Present!

-whomod

It's not as simple as that for me. Policy is of course important. If McCain was Bush, Obama would be pretty much guarenteed my vote. McCain isn't though. He was a major thorn to his party when they were riding high. And while it sounds great to have my party in charge, I suspect it would play out much like having the GOP in charge of everything. It makes my vote iffy.

I read about Palin a year ago in Monocle, a UK magazine, and the article was talking about how she was kind of naive but a truly popular grass-roots politician and what a shame it was that she was from Alaska (the sticks) otherwise she should go to Washington.

I think this was a very clever move, if somewhat lacking in subtlety. Those Dems who were supporting Hillary because she was a woman will really have to think very hard about this. And on top of that McCain is about the best GOP POTUS a Dem could hope for and Palin about the best GOP VP a Dem could hope for.

But what this really signifies is the death of the neocons. The "maverick" McCain as President and the centrist Palin as VP? Neoconservatism as a political force is gone. It might be back, but no time soon. The conservatives in the US are starting to look like European mainstream conservatives - pro-business but socially moderate (which is how I vote, incidentally). So much for the US being right of everyone else in the Western world.

I have to say I had half-hoped that other famous GOP centrist, the Gubernator, might be picked as VP candidate, but I'm guessing there would be some constitutional issues there because he was born abroad.

Please don't bother my friend.....he's dead tired.

Obama Ad: 'No Change' With Palin. New Obama ad responds to McCain running mate choice, carefully avoiding direct criticism of Sarah Palin

So, in the fantasy world that is Obamaland, choosing a woman for VP isn't "change," but picking an old white guy with hair plugs is?

in Obama's defense Biden did say two months ago that Obama is not fit to lead and is too inexperienced, so with him endorsing Obama now that Obama paid him off with a VP slot that is a change.

she's back!


BoB ThE BoB content User 0 posts 08/30/08 12:36 PM Viewing list of forums

well, if he stayed a broad, maybe mccain woulda picked arnie!

hi, i'm in this forum.

i think palin is a great choice for all of the superficial reasons of, i believe ray said, filling all the criteria that mccain didn't. female, younger, fresher, etc.

arnold woulda been cool. i was actually thinking colin powell would have been the choice, and a good one (he speaks so well!). rudy was my original hope a few years back, but holy lord did he tank himself in the past two years.

but palin seems to be a perfect fit for everything mccain is lacking, as well as taking advantage of the missing female / hillary vote, and the "now we're new, too" appeal obama has been able to carry. also, she really is kinda hot.

the thought of obama as president doesn't scare me at all. in fact, i think many times i've often wished that there was an un-president in power, to remove all of the political quagmires and bureaucracy. y'know, like that movie "dave". and, really, obama is as good a choice as any, with his VP pick giving the pair a bit more of the credability he's lacking (perception or otherwise). the campaign run on "change" has gotten a little stale to me, and i think the fact that they've all had to run for this face for like 12 years has taken some of the power out of "change."

mccain and palin, however, just seem like a significantly better pick, to me. i even think, as dave said, they're a great selection for most democrats, even if its more of the "i can live with that" angle. mccain is a standup guy who has routinely criticized his own party, notably dubya, so at least you know it wont just be "towing the line" type mentality. he does what he says and says what he does and has a track record to show it.

hell, i even like how he's run the campaign, not wanting to pick fights or attack, defending barack during the reverend troubles, even running a "hey, nice!" commercial during obama's show this week.

sure, im not expecting perfection, and i know there are hundreds of links deep into democratically-themed websites about how he's eaten babies and poo'd on grammas or whatever. still, on paper, and with the details i've read and heard thus far, this seems like a really good ticket.

rob stop with the personal attack already.....

Why is everyone in love with schwarzen-whatever?

He promised to run California like a company and get it out of dept and failed miserably. He accomplished absolutely nothing. His one good thing was he wasn't grey davis.

^

Truth.

I am now paying four different car taxes because of that lying dickhead. But it's okay because we're on the road to getting out of debt or some shit.



Where do you get the idea that Palin is centrist?

Intelligence usually filters out of the brain as a person becomes more reactionary.

Zogby is reporting that the announcment of Sarah Palin as McCain's VP choice has effectively erased Obama's post-convention bounce in the polls and McCain is actually ahead (albeit still within the margin of error).

I could be wrong, but I think that makes Barack Hussein Obama the first major party candidate in my lifetime to NOT see a rise in poll numbers after his convention.

I think the polls in this election will be misleading. This election like 2000 wont be decided by the popular vote but by the electorate map. either candidate my win the popular by 6 or more percent, but it's gonna come down to where they win that percent.

I agree. My only point was that, if Obama truly didn't get a post-convention 'bounce' out of this, it helps illustrate exactly why the democrat party is shitting their pants over Palin.

Sarah Plain and Tall

Obama and Biden
Osama Bin Laden

whoa.

back in 1998-1999, i met this guy Ian who was in this band New Struck Eight with this guy Andrew whom my sister is now married to. One of their oldest songs was "Let's Go Bomb Bin Laden." Then there was 9-11 and suddenly it was cool to want to hurt the #1 Most Wanted man, but we was on his little ass since before it were cool.

I just wanted to share that tidbit of "who the fuck gives a shit?!"

Palin is very nice looking. Combine that with the fact that I find Cindy McCain to be pretty cute for an old broad, the McCain Admin would have the best looking women on the ticket JFK...Jackie was bangin' enough to totally make up for Lady Bird. Since we're on the subject, I've always found Laura Bush to be highly fuckable...

Anyway...

I see the pick for its strategic value...reinforcing McCain's street cred with the base since Palin is to the right of him on most issues, energizing some moderates by choosing a woman, effectively devaluing Biden's worth by ensuring that he'll have to be muzzled during the VP debate, pushing the "drill now, drill here" agenda even further since she's for drilling in ANWR even though he isn't...

Her inexperience is a valid arguement but it's not one that the Obama camp really wants to get into lest his own come back to the forfront.

Here's the one issue where I think, ultimately, McCain's tapping of Palin will ensure Obama's victory:

Choice.

McCain has made it fairly clear during the last few years that he's against a woman's right to choose but, my understanding is that part of the Right's reluctance to get on board with him is due to his earlier ambiguity on whether or not he supports repealing Roe V. Wade.

This link gives an idea of how he has see-sawed on the issue in the past.

With Palin on the ticket...as a woman who has 5 children including a newborn with Down's Syndrome, as a woman that is staunch in her support of the pro-life arguement...McCain is sending a message to that faction on the GOP that still may not have trusted him on the issue that his administration will definitely pursue the agenda of overturning Roe...whether he is able to complete his term or not.

I think many of the women Hillary supporters he's going after will see the Palin choice as pandering and ultimately become single issue voters. Perhaps the only issue that Obama completely beats (or loses to, depending on your beliefs) McCain on is the issue of choice. The women for Hillary can't even afford to sit it out for the fear that McCain will squeak out a win and the Supreme Court could become overwhelmingly right-justified for the next generation.

By choosing a woman that is, in the eyes of many on the left, an arch-conservative, McCain has ensured that choice will become the battleground issue of this election. And that will make women come out in droves to support choice.

Barring the assasination of Obama, an all out attack on Isreal, another terrorist attack on US soil or gas prices falling to less than $1.50...Sarah Palain as veep just handed Obama the White House.

Actually I think he is for a child's right to live.



Palin is not going to win Hilary Dems, but she may sway undecided women. The abortion issue has widely been reported even by the liberal media as a undeciding factor amongst moderates.

I think the fact that she put the life of her child with a disability ahead of her career ambitions(which she actually continued with her children), is inspiring to women, and people in general.