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Thread: Sarah Palin for VP


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Ray is missed.

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All we in the demographic of "People who like the nerdy but hot librarian look" all swung in favor of McCain with this announcement on Friday.

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Yeah.

BTW, who wants to bet that Tina Fey is going to be back on SNL playing Palin this fall?

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I wouldn't be surprised at all. And, I would have a reason to watch SNL again.

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Ironically, I've never thought Fey was that good on SNL. She's much better on "30 Rock" and even in "Mean Girls."

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Actually, I agree with you. I just find that comparatively she is ten times better than most of the people on the show now.

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Sarah does sports in 1988:


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HA!





I give it one week before we see dirty photos or all out nudity.


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That Sarah Palin is easy on the eyes, but hard on the ears.

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Yes. In fact, I just got a concussion from that discussion.

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
Yeah.

BTW, who wants to bet that Tina Fey is going to be back on SNL playing Palin this fall?


I thought they look alot alike.


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Yeah, I'm guessing that Darrell Hammond will play McCain, Fey as Palin, Bill Hader as Biden and that Armisen and Pohler will still be playing Obama and Clinton.

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You guys still watch SNL?

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Are you accusing g-man of being out of touch?


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If I wanted to accuse him of being out of touch, I'd say he watches Mad TV.


Knutreturns said: Spoken like the true Greatest RDCW Champ!

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There's a difference?


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Touche'.


Knutreturns said: Spoken like the true Greatest RDCW Champ!

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I would like to touche Mrs. Palin.

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And how!



Seriously, though, what EXACTLY does she bring to McCain's campaign? Aside from being a reasonably attractive woman, what areas that McCain lacks could Palin help with? To me, it just seems like a shameless ploy by the McCain campaign to drum up support without mentioning any issues.


Knutreturns said: Spoken like the true Greatest RDCW Champ!

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Yeah, I think it is more or less a ploy to get jaded Hillary supporters. Fact is, I don't think McCain really needs a solid running mate anyway.

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 Originally Posted By: King Snarf
To me, it just seems like a shameless ploy by the McCain campaign to drum up support without mentioning any issues.


You've just described Obama's entire campaign.

While her overall use does seem to be about pissing in Obama's coffee in regards to being the first black candidate, she also addresses the concern of McCain voters that his ticket isn't conservative enough. So, in effect, it does do a good job of uniting the party and almost certainly insuring a win at the same time. When a party is united, you get shit done.

And this is the only redeeming factor I can extract from the situation. Luckily for McCain, it's a big one since I'm liable to slit my wrists before November.

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You're kidding, right? Obama talks about all sorts of issues. Hope. change. The sun shining on America again... \:p

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Yeah, those are the things that really matter. Who needs solutions when you can talk in abstract terms?

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I guess one more thing that Sarah Palin brings to the table is she makes it more likely for Pariah to off himself.

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Oh, damn, but this is hilarious...

Over at the left-wing message board Daily Kos, there's apparently a new conspiracy theory brewing that Gov. Palin's youngest son is actually her daughter's bastard child and Palin covered it up by wearing a fake pregnancy suit for nine months.

I wonder what the over/under is on how long before Olbermann tries to run with this as an actual news story?

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 Originally Posted By: King Snarf
And how!



Seriously, though, what EXACTLY does she bring to McCain's campaign? Aside from being a reasonably attractive woman, what areas that McCain lacks could Palin help with? To me, it just seems like a shameless ploy by the McCain campaign to drum up support without mentioning any issues.



She's bringing hope and change.


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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
Oh, damn, but this is hilarious...

Over at the left-wing message board Daily Kos, there's apparently a new conspiracy theory brewing that Gov. Palin's youngest son is actually her daughter's bastard child and Palin covered it up by wearing a fake pregnancy suit for nine months.

I wonder what the over/under is on how long before Olbermann tries to run with this as an actual news story?


She confirmed today that her youngest daughter (17) is indeed pregnant. She did that to stop all this other stupid BS that was circulating.

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 Originally Posted By: King Snarf
And how!



Seriously, though, what EXACTLY does she bring to McCain's campaign? Aside from being a reasonably attractive woman, what areas that McCain lacks could Palin help with? To me, it just seems like a shameless ploy by the McCain campaign to drum up support without mentioning any issues.



Well snarf since McCain is the most well rounded, experienced candidate since GH Bush, I suppose it would be hard to find any VP nomination that brings anything he lacks. But Palin does show proof that he wants to change politics, rather than Obama who is a mouthpiece that picked a career Senator.

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
Oh, damn, but this is hilarious...

Over at the left-wing message board Daily Kos, there's apparently a new conspiracy theory brewing that Gov. Palin's youngest son is actually her daughter's bastard child and Palin covered it up by wearing a fake pregnancy suit for nine months.

I wonder what the over/under is on how long before Olbermann tries to run with this as an actual news story?


Both sides come up with some doozies don't they?


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To Obama's credit, he's announced that any staffer of his who spreads rumors about Palin's kid will be fired.

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yes, he also said he was the candidate for change and then picked a career Washington insider, i hope he's being as sincere....

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Fishing permit violations. A blue-collar husband who racked up a DUI citation as a 22-year-old. An unmarried teenage daughter who is pregnant and a nasty child custody battle involving a family member.

All of this, to one degree or another, has surfaced in recent days as a result of efforts to discredit or undermine Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. But these revelations may have the opposite effect: In one sense, they could reinforce how remarkably unremarkable she is.

So far — and it is hard to tell what the future may hold for Palin’s unexpected national candidacy — the travails of the Palin family probably seem awfully familiar to many average Americans. It is this averageness that makes her such a politically promising running mate for John McCain — and such a dangerous opponent for Democrats. Many voters will find it easy to identify with her family’s struggles — a significant advantage in an election where the voting calculus is so unusually and intensely personal.

Democrats Barack Obama and Joe Biden hardly come from blue-blood backgrounds; Biden, now famously, is an Irish-Catholic son of Scranton, Pa., and Obama was raised by a single mother. But the fact that Palin, even as a governor, remains grounded in a recognizable American lifestyle — warts and all — has not gone unnoticed among Republicans, as the first wave of opposition research has been unloaded on her.

“Authenticity is the most important characteristic for someone seeking public office,” said Nick Ayers, executive director of the Republican Governors Association. “Any news that comes out about her is not going to hurt her because it reinforces the point that she is authentically one of us.”

Unlike running mates from both parties, dating back decades, the Palin family isn't part of the moneyed elite or the governing class. Neither wife nor husband is the scion of a well-connected family. Sarah Palin attended a state school, and her brushes with the law are of the same nettlesome kind that drive recreational fishermen crazy in all 50 states.

“Look at the nature of this: small-town mayor, marrying the high school sweetheart — these are the kinds of things you’d see in a Budweiser commercial as opposed to an Amstel Light commercial,” said South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford. “She wasn’t born of political pedigree, and people like that.”

Even the governor’s own Trooper-gate scandal, in which Palin is alleged to have exerted undue pressure to fire a state trooper, is suffused with an element that many families can identify with: one sister stepping in on behalf of another in an acrimonious dispute with a brother-in-law.

Powerful media organizations are beginning to pour resources into this story, so much more damaging twists and turns may await. But assuming the accusations don’t grow more serious, it is of a considerably different nature as an abuse of power than the last Trooper-gate scandal to rock the political world — the one in which Bill Clinton was alleged to use his state troopers in Arkansas to procure women as sex partners. That wouldn’t excuse Palin’s actions, of course, but it would frame them in such a way that could limit the political damage.





“The media doesn’t understand life membership in the NRA; they don’t understand getting up at 3 a.m. to hunt a moose; they don’t understand eating a mooseburger; they don’t understand being married to a guy who likes to snowmobile for fun. I am not surprised that they don’t get it. But Americans get it,” said Florida Rep. Adam Putnam. “A mooseburger means she is like one of us. She is not some jackass who’s ‘gone Washington.’”

With a pregnant teenage daughter and an infant with Down syndrome, the Palins, it seems, have been caught up in the same struggles of everyday life that confront many American families. And it poses a difficult challenge for Democrats because she will be juxtaposed against Biden, a United States senator with 35 years of experience.

Biden has his own compelling narrative; he commuted back to Wilmington, Del., daily for years to be with his young sons after his wife and infant daughter died in an automobile accident. But it is revealing that the first round of tough stories after his nomination explored conflicts of interest between Biden family members and one of the nation’s biggest asbestos litigation law firms. That’s a long way from fishing license violations.

If Palin can withstand more media vetting — a big if — and if she can avoid being framed as a nutty, gun-toting, Bible-thumper — another big if — it will suddenly become clear that there is no playbook for how to contend with a national politician who hasn’t been in the public arena long enough to accumulate the kind of personal and ethical baggage that almost invariably accompanies the ascent to power.

The recently dialed-down Democratic response to Palin’s nomination is an indicator that the Obama campaign is beginning to understand what it’s up against.

At a press availability Monday in Monroe, Mich., Obama strongly distanced himself from personal attacks on Palin.

“I have said before, and I will repeat again: People's families are off-limits," Obama said. "And people's children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. So I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know, my mother had me when she was 18, and how a family deals with issues and teenage children, that shouldn’t be a topic of our politics."

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