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#1232874 11/03/2020 10:18 AM
by Pariah
Pariah
Down to the wire, too close to call.....


....Oh wait. No it isn't. Trump is drawing tremendously huge crowds every where he goes--even places he hasn't gone (see also: Beverly Hills)--and, predictably, the polls have once again gone from YUGELY favoring Democrats to evening out with, or leaning toward, Trump.

Lets cut to the meat of the matter and eliminate all equivocation in the process: the Democrats do not have hidden voters. They all operate in plain sight on account of their self proclaimed, protected status as "polite society". By that same token, Trump's voters are still vilified and targeted--even killed (see also: Jacob Gardner's "suicide")--when identified by hostile partizans and aggressive insurgents (see also: Antifa, BLM), and thus have a vested interest in remaining hidden even as Trump draws large crowds. Where there's smoke, there's fire...and if those rally sizes constitute smoke, what does that say about the fire?

Bearing this in mind, the polls lie. Obviously. They always have, being a tool of manipulating public perception rather than a means of conducting objective analysis. That being said, they've gone almost completely from serving the purpose of overestimating the cultural strength and prevalence of Democrats, as a means to chip away at conservative morale, to masking an inevitable massive fraud so as to cease the severe hemorrhage from the near fatal wounds that Trump has dealt the cabal (see also: the euphemistic "Deep State"). It's certainly not the first time or occasion that Democrats have cheated using voter fraud. More than likely they've used numerous permutations of the basic concept over the past 40 to 50 years in every single state to gaslight the populous with spurious perceptions that they're outnumbered by an "other" philosophy that's entirely alien to them and that they're a dying race of thinkers destined for death. But I'm all but certain that the lengths they've gone to over the past 6 to 12 months constitutes the single most massive fraud to which we will ever bear witness since they are necessarily going to have to break the 3% rule in an attempt to meet their goal of getting the dementia-plagued Biden (Harris) into office.

By "3%", I'm referring to the threshold that must be observed when playing the game of stacking dummy votes before it becomes noticeable. By comparison, the scale of the primaries is such that a given political party can get away with a rate of 10% fraudulent ballots or, at the very least, "counted" votes before hitting a barrier of explicit fraud (see also: Hillary and Biden stealing primaries in CA and IA). The threshold for a general is 3%, and they must surpass it. They will, of course, launch the same narrative of "look no further" with regards to voter fraud OR they will project blame on the opposition. But this is the first time that they've had to deal with someone who has a vested interest in exposing voter fraud--as opposed to establishment Republicans who've been complicit with Democrats in hiding it.

Bearing these two factors in mind, the center-left and/or dead heat polls that we are seeing assuredly allude to something beyond margin of error. More like, significant lead for Trump that they're desperate to hide. In actuality, they know people don't believe it, but since narratives must be steeped in the tone of something "official", they must forego the acknowledgement of the natural understanding of the individual (see also: common sense) and rely upon the open secret of deceit so that they might simply emphasize their own consistency to justify results that are inconsistent with apparent reality, and thus effectively broadcasting their strategy to their true believers (see also: MEM) via the dog whistle of outrageous claims and general incredulity given credence only by their own repetition and devotion to the current state of the Overton Window. The Zeitgeist is now squarely in the hands of the individual, and not the media.

PA has already stated that the state will not be called today in the interest of insuring 'every vote is accounted for'. NC will likely be in a similar situation. Democrats managed to take advantage of the liberal plant, Justice Roberts, who has allowed them to keep votes flowing into the states three days past the election. Trump will cry fowl--as well he should. As counties that were clearly turned red gradually metamorphasize to blue over a long enough timeline, the rules of the game will be clear cut to everyone. And that spark will risk a conflagration.

People here are probably already aware of the warnings of rioting, violence, and looting today--especially if Biden loses. This fact should be self-defeating to his ilk, but neigh. On the contrary, they've gone through great lengths to construct a mentally gymnastic high ground built up the persistent narrative that Trump is an underhanded, lying istaphobe to whom which any form of violence would be justified. As such, they have fabricated a reality in which they can wear the violence and viciousness of Biden's supporters and fellow travelers on their sleeve and still sit pretty atop their pile of sophistry ridden rhetoric and ad hominem laden shit. Conversely, any violence taken up by Trump supporters, whether offensive or defensive, in the coming days will be portrayed as insurrectionist terrorism. Only the left could some how get away with being so blatantly coercive, but still make a case for righteousness. And while this is going on, Hilldog has told Biden to "not concede defeat under any circumstances".

For those who don't already know at this point: everyone--and I mean EVERYONE--is now VERY well armed and on high alert. Antifa is gonna Antifa regardless of outcome. BLM is gonna BLM regardless of outcome. Such are the intimidation orders they've been receiving from OCONUS. Furthermore, mothers have bought firearms in record numbers on account of the riots. Militias are standing by, and still as geared up as they ever were. Trump has erected a fence around the White House and called in around 250 soldiers to guard the castle.

I'm hoping I'm wrong on this one and that Trump has a trick up his sleeve to mitigate or nullify the likely friction (to put it lightly) that will ensue today and over the course of the next month or so. But there's too many factors, too many actors, and too much on the line to assume anything other than shots fired.


Knowing full well the consequences of saying something with this much finality before the big game, I say it anyway: Trump will win in a landslide both in the popular vote and the electoral college. Any other reported result will, and should, be challenged.

Back to our original programming.



....What say the rest of you? Putting aside your preferences, which are pretty much well documented, who do you think will win and by how much?
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#1233088 Nov 8th a 11:50 PM
by Wonder Boy
Wonder Boy
Exactly. NONE of the contested states have said their states have finished counting, have not announced giving their state votes over to the electoral college.

The liberal news media just decided with their electoral math people to PREDICT (not verify) that states will go to Biden. Incredibly, even Fox News joined the liberal networks in this Orwellian narrative. And the Biden campaign has gone along with it, with Biden giving something of a victory speech (despite no victory). In a bid to create enough momentum to pressure the remaining media chime along with the "Biden victory" narrative, and to pressure Trump and his supporters to concede, which he, and we, will not do.

There is absolute evidence, and PLENTIFUL evidence, that there is massive fraud in all these states, in the testimony of at least 54 witnesses in Philadelphia alone, along with video-recorded evidence and other documentation to support it. Forensic computer evidence of fraud, that can be verified. Rudy Giuliani in his investigation found at least 200,000 tampered ballots in Philadelphia, and another 300,000 tampered ballots in Pittsburg. RNC chair Ronna McDaniel has cited further evidence of massive and orchestrated voter fraud in Michigan, more than enough to eliminate Biden's manufactured "victory" and give the states back to Trump.


RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel press conference in Michigan, Friday, Nov 6, 2020


Starting Monday, Rudy Giuliani will be filing 5 lawsuits in 5 states over the next 5 days.
This is BLATANT misconduct by Democrats. But of course, M E M has no problem with that. Whatever serves the revolution, whatever gives his party victory.
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#1233099 Nov 9th a 12:58 PM
by Wonder Boy
Wonder Boy
Also interviewed on Sunday Morning Futures by Maria Martiromo yesterday, Rudy Giuliani, who is investigting election fraud in Philadelphia and Pittsburg. Giuliani says there are at least 200,000 fraudulant votes in Philadelphia, and another 300,000 in Pittsburg that he will be presenting evidence of in a lawsuit Monday.

Giuliani press conference detailing election fraud - Nov 4 2020



An orchestrated concerted election fraud by the Democrat party, in multiple states.
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#1233167 Dec 3rd a 03:08 AM
by Pariah
Pariah
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
I’m not for gulags but

Oh my.
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by Pariah
Pariah
Watch Senator Parent lose her shit when as she tries to explain away the footage:



Someone's nervous.

I love how she tries to repetitiously use the phrase "debunked for weeks" and regurgitates the yarn of "where's your evidence" when it's right in front of her accompanied by sworn affidavits.

Does anyone know if there's a phrase for someone constantly saying "where's your evidence?" even though it's been put right in front of him? It's clear that the Demmy's have been using that as a first and last line of defense since they know that the mainstream news will quote that specific statement, and no other, as a means of deteriorating the case for claims of voter fraud solely on the virtue of their criticism.

There was a good Twitter response to her silliness: "The story was “debunked” when they thought a video proving the story didnt exist. Now they’ve shifted positions again, admitting all the impropriety in front of your eyes exist while trying to explain it’s actually well and proper because the very people accused say so."

Clearly, Parent was relying on the insinuation that "debunked" refers to something finalized--and typically it does. Unless of course, in actuality, it wasn't.
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#1233224 Dec 5th a 11:17 PM
by Matter-eater Man
Matter-eater Man
Originally Posted by Pariah
Of course, while the citizens fight for their rights and voter integrity, MEM, Sammitch, and friends are still busy with voter intimidation.

Link - CitizenFreePress: Melissa Carone Testifies on Voter Fraud

  • Melissa Carone, the IT specialist I reported on earlier, testifies that she is receiving death threats; has lost family and friends; changed her phone number; got off social media; moved; can’t get a job; all because Democrats like to ruin people’s lives, including President Trump. Video is queued to that spot, only about a minute and a half; the rest of the video has some good details into the fraud, as well.


Mainstream media is going after Carone HARD, giving her the Bachmann treatment: "She's female and and she's speaking up for Trump? She's hysterical! SHE'S A CRAZY DRUNKARD!!"

I would expect nothing less of the left.

She came off as a nut job and not very credible. Nothing needs to be added other than watching her talk to form that opinion. Nobody should be getting death threats though.
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#1233210 Dec 5th a 12:48 PM
by Matter-eater Man
Matter-eater Man
Trumpers are not just issuing death threats and harassing democrats connected to the election WB. Republican and their families are also getting them if they don’t say or do what Trump really wants. Even one of Trump’s lawyers issued a call to have that cyber security head put to death for saying this election was a secure one. Trump also fired him. You really want a coup and hold onto power no matter what. This guy you’re making fun of is really being really brave and trying to protect his people no matter their political affiliation.
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#1233174 Dec 3rd a 01:16 PM
by Matter-eater Man
Matter-eater Man
Even Barr who has been a reliable wing man for Trump has said there was no evidence of widespread voter fraud that would change the results of the presidential election. The claims of voter fraud by Trump have constantly failed in courts with republican judges even some appointed by Trump himself. I think it’s pretty clear trump is lying with his claims and drives his nutjobs to try to force election officials to do his bidding. Your Auschwitz vs Georgia republicans comparison doesn’t even make sense. Those people were doing whatever they could to survive the nazis that were in power. Trump is the one in power till January and it’s his fanatical base that is harassing and threatening members of Trump’s own party. You can’t deflect that. You are actually the turncoat choosing Trump over your country. It will never be okay that you were for throwing away my vote and god knows what else trump comes up with before his term ends.
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#1233230 Dec 6th a 04:10 AM
by MisterJLA
MisterJLA
Originally Posted by Pariah
Actually, I'd say Ruby is the "star witness" at this point.

Actually, I'd say your prediction gets funnier the more time goes on...


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...erturn-election-rusty-bowers/3839579001/

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PHOENIX – Republican Speaker of the Arizona House of Representatives Rusty Bowers said Friday that pleas from some GOP lawmakers to overturn the results of the state's presidential election are illegal and "cannot and will not" happen.

Republican state Reps. Mark Finchem and Kelly Townsend spent much of the day imploring their fellow legislators on social media to overturn the election results in favor of President Donald Trump.

Bowers said such action would be both illegal and inappropriate.

"As a conservative Republican, I don’t like the results of the presidential election," Bowers said in a prepared statement. "I voted for President Trump and worked hard to reelect him. But I cannot and will not entertain a suggestion that we violate current law to change the outcome of a certified election."

Also...


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The Washington Post has reported that Trump has collected more than $200 million in campaign donations after he lost the national election as supporters cling to hopes that the election can be reversed through the courts or state legislatures. The campaign sent more than 500 email pleas for cash since the election that often, if not always, repeat misleading claims the election was stolen, according to the Post.

Trump fleecing his moron followers one more time before he leaves office...
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#1233239 Dec 6th a 02:12 PM
by Matter-eater Man
Matter-eater Man
Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
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It's a pure and simple fact that the legislature has ultimate authority to call elections in Pennsylvania, and that Pennsylvaniaa's piece-of-shit secretary of state violate that state's laws when she signed an executive order to allow mail-in ballots to be counted many days after the Nov 3rd election date. And also a violation of Pennsylvania state law for the governor to rubber-stamp that illegal executive order. I've seen multiple legal scholars, including Alan Dershowitz, say they think Trump will inevitably win that part of the battle in court, if not the state';s electoral votes as well.

Likewise, the law gives ultimate authority to the legislaature in Georgia. (I'm not sure about the laws in Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin and Michigan, but at the very least Republicans control the state legislators ig not the governor seats in many of these states, and at least can demand a full investigation in each state. )
And again: Where the hell is the FBI? Where is the DOJ, in what appears to be the most compromised election in U.S. history? Clearly hundreds of thousands of ballots in question, in each of these states. (I can answer that: about 97% of campaign donations by FBI employees went to the Biden campaign, and likewise to the Hillary and Obama campaigns before them. DOJ and FBI, and USPS and Stae Dept and the Teacher unions, are Democrat-occupied territory, and a corrupt arm of the Democrat Bolshevik machine.

I don't understand the timidity of some PA and GA legislators not to use the authority legally available to them, to overturn a clearly rigged election. Thousands of sworn witnesses, photo and video evidence. Not only for Republican legislators to do what is right in this election, but to set a precedent to keep the piece-of-shit Democrat Bolsheviks from doing the same in every future election. They may have been rigging elections back to 2008. They sure as hell were doing it in 2012 and 2016. An unholy Democrat alliance among the Democrat party, the Democrat deep-state ffederal agencies, the Democrat deep-state intelligence community across FBI, CIA, DIA, FISA court and NSC, the Democrat-zealot 93% anti-Trump liberal media, and the Orwellian Democrat tech and social media, along with globalists and billionaires like Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, George Soros, Jeff Bezos, and Google that controls over 90% of online information searches. This is how a nation dies.

This is why you are a turncoat WB. You want to disenfranchise everyone to keep a lying corrupt piece of shit in power. The state legislature would have to break election laws that they passed to do your evil anti democratic coup....


GOP leaders - once again - say they can’t overturn election

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The letter, released Thursday, reiterated the GOP leaders’ legal concerns.

“Some of the actions requested by our residents would require us to disregard the statutes and Constitution we have fought so hard to protect during this pandemic,” the letter states.

Along with Cutler and Corman, it was signed by Senate Majority Leader Kim Ward, of Westmoreland County, and House Majority Leader Kerry Benninghoff, of Centre County.

Specifically, GOP leadership cited state law, which mandates that voters, not legislators, pick a presidential winner. Also, they argued that the state constitution does not allow for the General Assembly to meet before January absent an invitation from Gov. Tom Wolf, a Democrat.

“Ignoring these state laws to appoint electors would :set a precedent that a simple majority of the General Assembly can override the will of the people as evidenced by the popular vote,” the letter says.
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#1233353 Dec 12th a 05:42 PM
by Matter-eater Man
Matter-eater Man
Bottom line he’s trying to throw out election results because he lost. Just because you can do something doesn’t make it moral or ethical. It certainly doesn’t make it beyond judgment, what you seem to be arguing. My vote wasn’t okay to steal and it won’t be forgotten that he’s trying to do exactly that.
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#1233144 Dec 2nd a 02:56 AM
by the G-man
the G-man
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Sorry but I hate evil.

Unless it has a "D" after its name.
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#1237846 Aug 16th a 07:22 AM
by MisterJLA
MisterJLA
Originally Posted by Pariah
Down to the wire, too close to call.....


....Oh wait. No it isn't. Trump is drawing tremendously huge crowds every where he goes--even places he hasn't gone (see also: Beverly Hills)--and, predictably, the polls have once again gone from YUGELY favoring Democrats to evening out with, or leaning toward, Trump.

Lets cut to the meat of the matter and eliminate all equivocation in the process: the Democrats do not have hidden voters. They all operate in plain sight on account of their self proclaimed, protected status as "polite society". By that same token, Trump's voters are still vilified and targeted--even killed (see also: Jacob Gardner's "suicide")--when identified by hostile partizans and aggressive insurgents (see also: Antifa, BLM), and thus have a vested interest in remaining hidden even as Trump draws large crowds. Where there's smoke, there's fire...and if those rally sizes constitute smoke, what does that say about the fire?

Bearing this in mind, the polls lie. Obviously. They always have, being a tool of manipulating public perception rather than a means of conducting objective analysis. That being said, they've gone almost completely from serving the purpose of overestimating the cultural strength and prevalence of Democrats, as a means to chip away at conservative morale, to masking an inevitable massive fraud so as to cease the severe hemorrhage from the near fatal wounds that Trump has dealt the cabal (see also: the euphemistic "Deep State"). It's certainly not the first time or occasion that Democrats have cheated using voter fraud. More than likely they've used numerous permutations of the basic concept over the past 40 to 50 years in every single state to gaslight the populous with spurious perceptions that they're outnumbered by an "other" philosophy that's entirely alien to them and that they're a dying race of thinkers destined for death. But I'm all but certain that the lengths they've gone to over the past 6 to 12 months constitutes the single most massive fraud to which we will ever bear witness since they are necessarily going to have to break the 3% rule in an attempt to meet their goal of getting the dementia-plagued Biden (Harris) into office.

By "3%", I'm referring to the threshold that must be observed when playing the game of stacking dummy votes before it becomes noticeable. By comparison, the scale of the primaries is such that a given political party can get away with a rate of 10% fraudulent ballots or, at the very least, "counted" votes before hitting a barrier of explicit fraud (see also: Hillary and Biden stealing primaries in CA and IA). The threshold for a general is 3%, and they must surpass it. They will, of course, launch the same narrative of "look no further" with regards to voter fraud OR they will project blame on the opposition. But this is the first time that they've had to deal with someone who has a vested interest in exposing voter fraud--as opposed to establishment Republicans who've been complicit with Democrats in hiding it.

Bearing these two factors in mind, the center-left and/or dead heat polls that we are seeing assuredly allude to something beyond margin of error. More like, significant lead for Trump that they're desperate to hide. In actuality, they know people don't believe it, but since narratives must be steeped in the tone of something "official", they must forego the acknowledgement of the natural understanding of the individual (see also: common sense) and rely upon the open secret of deceit so that they might simply emphasize their own consistency to justify results that are inconsistent with apparent reality, and thus effectively broadcasting their strategy to their true believers (see also: MEM) via the dog whistle of outrageous claims and general incredulity given credence only by their own repetition and devotion to the current state of the Overton Window. The Zeitgeist is now squarely in the hands of the individual, and not the media.

PA has already stated that the state will not be called today in the interest of insuring 'every vote is accounted for'. NC will likely be in a similar situation. Democrats managed to take advantage of the liberal plant, Justice Roberts, who has allowed them to keep votes flowing into the states three days past the election. Trump will cry fowl--as well he should. As counties that were clearly turned red gradually metamorphasize to blue over a long enough timeline, the rules of the game will be clear cut to everyone. And that spark will risk a conflagration.

People here are probably already aware of the warnings of rioting, violence, and looting today--especially if Biden loses. This fact should be self-defeating to his ilk, but neigh. On the contrary, they've gone through great lengths to construct a mentally gymnastic high ground built up the persistent narrative that Trump is an underhanded, lying istaphobe to whom which any form of violence would be justified. As such, they have fabricated a reality in which they can wear the violence and viciousness of Biden's supporters and fellow travelers on their sleeve and still sit pretty atop their pile of sophistry ridden rhetoric and ad hominem laden shit. Conversely, any violence taken up by Trump supporters, whether offensive or defensive, in the coming days will be portrayed as insurrectionist terrorism. Only the left could some how get away with being so blatantly coercive, but still make a case for righteousness. And while this is going on, Hilldog has told Biden to "not concede defeat under any circumstances".

For those who don't already know at this point: everyone--and I mean EVERYONE--is now VERY well armed and on high alert. Antifa is gonna Antifa regardless of outcome. BLM is gonna BLM regardless of outcome. Such are the intimidation orders they've been receiving from OCONUS. Furthermore, mothers have bought firearms in record numbers on account of the riots. Militias are standing by, and still as geared up as they ever were. Trump has erected a fence around the White House and called in around 250 soldiers to guard the castle.

I'm hoping I'm wrong on this one and that Trump has a trick up his sleeve to mitigate or nullify the likely friction (to put it lightly) that will ensue today and over the course of the next month or so. But there's too many factors, too many actors, and too much on the line to assume anything other than shots fired.


Knowing full well the consequences of saying something with this much finality before the big game, I say it anyway: Trump will win in a landslide both in the popular vote and the electoral college. Any other reported result will, and should, be challenged.

Back to our original programming.



....What say the rest of you? Putting aside your preferences, which are pretty much well documented, who do you think will win and by how much?
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