Apocalypse is in the air!

It really has been for as long as I've been old enough to understand politics and realities of the world. Which for me is around 1975.

Some of the options back then included:

• Nuclear war
• and/or the Anti-Christ/tribulation, and the various plagues of REVELATION
• "peak oil" or a collapsed economy, that leads to collapse of industrial economies and mass starvation.
• a global plague that kills most or all people.
• Starting around 1999, a fear that the Millennium would cause all computers to shut down, destroying our civilization.

Apocalyptic speculation kicked up a notch as the year 2000 approached. It seemed to calm down for a while, then kicked into high gear again with the 2006-2009 crisis.

Some of the more recent scenarios:

• Collapse of the dollar, leading to hyperinflation, poverty, riots in the streets, the government firing on civilians, and starvation.
• Regarding the Bilderberg Group and other global elites, a conspiracy to "cull" the population from over 7 billion down to less than 1 billion, through a global plague (caused by deliberate spread in vaccinations, and toxic food additives in processed foods) and lockdown control of the global police state that rises out of the orchestrated crisis.
• Massive and expanding global islamic terrorism, possibly bringing nuclear terrorism, or plague from germ warfare.
• A solar flare (that occurs about every 150 years, and has not occurred since our electrical power-grid-driven modern industrial economy began) could wipe out our modern economy, disable all computers and electronics for years and, again, result in mass starvation and collapse of the modern world.
• Social-Marxist orchestrated collapse of the United States and other western democracies, a slow "march through the institutions" and censorship of free thought through Political Correctness, that eventually leads to Soviet-style authoritarian lockdown of the remaining dissenters, "re-education centers" and purges. As envisioned by the likes of the Frankfurt School, William Ayers, and at least partially shared in the ideology of our great leader Comrade Obama.
• Some other deception by wealthy and political elites, possibly exploiting the zeal of Marxists, Muslims, secularists, Christians or other groups, and hijacking the crisis in the direction they (the elites) want to take it.

Some of those aired warnings offer serious evidence, others are unintentionally comedic hype to get people to buy their books and survival gear, and/or watch their weekly show. Some silly, some serious and valid.

I'm by nature an optimist. But with our nation's enormous debt, fragility of the global economy, increasing aggression of Russia, China and the Islamic world, rogue states like Iran and North Korea obtaining nukes, and in Iran's case having the fanaticism to use them, and the increasing rise of Islamic terrorism and other terrorist movements, never before has "the end" seemed more likely.


Do you believe the end is near?
If so, what do you think is the most likely end scenario?

Or alternately, how do you think we get out of it, and what alternate direction do you think the future takes?

So the world will be saved by lousy dancing?

So the world ends with a continuous animated loop?

The world will end when Lothar in your living room '12 posts something funny.

Lothar has posted funny things many times.

...like whenever he says "I'm not gay"!

The Terrifying Future of The United States

I just realized you're someone's crazy old uncle who posts stupid crazy shit on Facebook.

So you dispute the facts presented?

Based on what?

based on science, magic, and religion.

Harry Potter science magic and religion?

No, I have a policy not to watch any ideas you post, because I don't wanna end up in an FBI list alongside Pete Townshend. It just has all the markings of something someone's crazy old uncle would post on Facebook that would go largely ignored, except maybe by other people's crazy old aunts/uncles.

That's what Facebook is for.

The treefrogs take over.

Agenda 21:




Which, creepily enough, is participated in by 178 of the 191 nations on earth.

It's Orwellian environmentalism, whose real purpose is to control people, under the guise of controlling pollution to protect the environment.

Either Solar flares (which occur about every 150 years) or a deliberate nuclear electromagnetic pulse set off over the U.S. could destroy our civilization.
And both the North Koreans and the Iranians have tested such EMP weapons. As Hal Lindsey details in the second story of this broadcast.






Judge Jeanine Pirro on her weekly program last night devoted the entire hour to this subject, and congressional and homeland security proposals to protect the U.S. from such a destruction of our electric power grid, by either solar flares or EMP weapons.

Opening editorial, and interview with Navy SEAL about his knowledge of destroying power grids, as he was trained to do:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE9leRAhbGg

Former CIA director James Woolsey, on EMP attacks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xvpxFXUe_s

More recent update by Wall Street Journal reporter, and U.S. Representatives disscuss their efforts for legislation to protect U.S. power grid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmSzyy0Uzw8



Previous more detailed report on San Jose power station attack, suppressed by government and media previously for 1 year:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmpYZiAUros

The inevitability of a U.S. currency collapse:


Top 5 Places NOT To Be In A Dollar Collapse

The world is ending, buy my book!

...aka "the Glenn Beck story".

On the Obama is the antichrist theme:


Obama's Throne Of Satan (Pergamon Altar)

and :


Is Barack Obama THE ANTICHRIST"?

Is that Gman and his harem?

And waiting in the wings...

The problem with your initial post is this/these IMO:

1. No one on the internet gives a crap.
2. at least 90% of people are agnostics, deists, or atheists.
3. Even people claiming to be Christians are in actuality Deists like Jefferson. The type of people that can remove what they want from the Bible and believe "their" God doesn't do that or want/expect that from them.
4. When any of those apocalyptic events happen no one will be here to say you were right, remember you posting this, or otherwise.
5. After it happens people will be worried about how to get their money, trade, steal, get stuff for their children; or worried about the 'aliens', the Russians, the Terrorists, or whatever other snark or bugawug is out there.

Nice to have you back, Pig Iran.



I thought I was clear in my opening post, but maybe not, that this is a topic for discussing ALL speculations on how
the world ends, and not just Biblical/Christian ones.

And while I have given a number of Christian/Bible Prophecy-related scenarios, there are many others that one could
be an agnostic or atheist and see the potential for, such as nuclear war, global epidemic, solar flare, peak oil, collapse
of the global economic system.

Most are deadly serious and have at least a degree of factual basis, a few I've posted here are wildly speculative and
off-base to the point of self parody and self-humiliation.

Current tensions in the Ukraine have been said by several, including Russia expert and Princeton University professor
Stephen Cohen, to be comparable to the Cuban missile crisis, and have a real possibility of pulling us into a third
world war.
And like JFK in the years leading up to the Cuban missile crisis, I'd argue that Obama's weakness on many fronts,
unwillingness to defend our allies, and outright betraying them (Poland, Czech Republic, Israel, Libya, Egypt,
Syria) has invited the current situation.

Kennedy is hailed as a strong leader who got us through the Cuban missile crisis, but if not for his weakness
leading up to it that emboldened the Russians to it, there would have never been a Cuban missile crisis.

The Bilderberg Group is a group of several thousand of the richest industrialists, who allegedly have a plan to "cull"
the world's population from 7 billion or so, down to a controllable billion or less, at least partly by entering toxic
substances into food, medicine and vaccines.

Jesse Ventura, Conspiracy Theory: "FEMA Camps/Fusion Centers"



Jesse Ventura, Conspiracy Theory: "Bilderberg Group"


I could have posted a longer and more credible source, but Jesse Ventura is a more entertainingly silly one
to post here.

But other linked documentaries (at youtube) lay out how this appears to actually be in the process of
implementation.

Here's Hal Lindsey on the same Bilderberg Group topic, making a more lucid and serious commentary:


Hal Lindsey talks about Bilderberg and the plan for depopulation

But as a Christian...all of the conspiracies are tied together by Lucifer...so, ultimately it doesn't matter I guess. Aliens (fallen angels in disguise), pole shift (Niburu), disease and war (anti-christ types)..etc etc.
At any rate, i think WWIII could light up in many ways and have 2 or 3 parts rather than be full on the entire time.
I'm of the opinion that over a 5-10 year period all kinds of crap will happen so fast and furiously people will actually die of stress. it will be coming from everywhere and all manner of various things,...disease, war, meteors, weather, pole shift, EMP, the economic collapse, and famine.... I believe if it happens and I think everything will line up perfectly to be a perfect shitstorm that no one can explain and no one can escape.

But I don't think the world ends..i just think it will end for a Loooooooooooooooottttttt of people...like 75%.

Well, as you acknowledge in your own answer, these end times scenarios can be observed as imminent, even if one
is NOT a Christian.

But certainly, for Christians things such as a nuclear war, global plague, world war, global economic collapse, or rise
and tyranny of a global government, would all be seen through the template of at least potentially being the
fulfillment of end-times prophecy.



Christians in Nazi concentration camps thought Hitler was the prophetically foretold anti-Christ.

Since at least the late 1970's I've seen that things are in place where an anti-Christ type figure could lock down
authoritarian control on the U.S. and European population.
With credit increasingly replacing cash, the UPC
price codes with all numbers framed in a 666 bar. The internet where every message and phone call are recorded and can be retrieved
instantly from a national database (thank you NSA, Bush's Patriot Act, and Obama's renewal and expansion of it!).
Security cameras everywhere, face-recognition technology, the capacity to freeze assets. The militarization
of local police, DHS accumulating 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition, construction of 600 FEMA camps across the U.S.
that can detain up to 50 million people. In the last 2 years I've increasingly heard of a chip created that has
the potential to replace credit cards, that is being proposed to --you guessed it!-- be placed in either the right
hand or forehead of each person.

For the first time, an authoritarian one-world government in the West has the ability -right now-- to do a complete
lockdown. But I think they will continue to refine that ability before they really turn the screws.

Even as a Christian, I look at these things disturbingly resembling Bible prophecy enough to possibly be
fulfilling them. But I don't jump the gun and say it definitely is.

But disaster, particularly economic collapse that would trigger an authoritarian police state to put down revolution
and dissent, certainly seems imminent unless reforms are made. As I've pointed out repeatedly, even the CBO, GAO,
global credit rating agencies, and our Chinese debt financiers (who are quietly getting out of U.S. treasury assets)
have all warned that the current system is "unsustainable" unless we change course. And these people are not
right-wing Christians, looking at events through Bible prophecy.

FEMA CAMPS EXPOSED



I didn't know that FEMA had been transferred to become part of Department of Homeland Security (DHS).
It had previously only been a disaster-relief agency.


The poster of this video did themselves a disservice by putting a specific date on their video that will quickly make it
obsolete and the source of ridicule. As are many other similar videos on Youtube.

Regardless, DHS still has FEMA CAMPS set up to hold roughly 50 million people, along with NDAA 2012 and NDAA 2013,
the Patriot Act, and 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition, to legally pave the way for an authoritarian power grab,
and wage war on all dissenters.

For fun sometimes I listen to Alex Jones. I don't trust him as a reliable source, but clicking on one of his videos
guarantees you'll be listening to some of the wildest conspiracy theories out there. (My favorite to date being his
allegation that Andrew Breitbart was assassinated by the CIA, with some kind of heart-attack-inducing gun that can be
fired at someone from a distance. Despite that numerous local bystanders in his neighborhood saw him collapse and
instantly came to Breitbart's aid.)

In this video, Jones is interviewing Lyndon Larouche about recent events in Ukraine, and Larouche goes on in 10,000
directions on multiple other conspiracy theories.
I've heard of Larouche (who first became visible to me in the early 1980's, when David Duke made headlines running for
office and was associated with him). I always thought he was some KKK-type. But based on this video, he's a
wacked-out conspiracy theorist that can't be solidly pinned to either the Left or Right. It's just interesting
to actually see LaRouche, and hear him tell it in his own words after all these decades of obscure notoriety.



I actually think he's right in one area, about the power struggle between the trans-Atlantic countries and the
Eurasian countries. But I don't agree we've been in steady decline since the JFK era, or that it inevitably leads
to "thermonuclear war". (He actually makes a distinction between nuclear war and thermonuclear war, that likewise
doesn't doesn't fully make sense to me. He alleges that thermonuclear war means a nation launching
everything they've got. But logically, a nation might use half of their nuclear arsenal, but then keep half to
deter any further aggression against them with the threat of launching even more destruction. For any
sane country, the goal is always deterrence, not all-out destruction.)

The stuff he says about fracking rings untrue to me also. The reports I've seen are that fracking is safe, and
the Left's reports of dangerous environmental damage from fracking have proven to be manufactured and false evidence.

In Larouche's defense, while I don't buy his assertion that all-out nuclear war is an inevitable result of the clash
over Ukraine, Princeton University professor (and Russia expert) Stephen Cohen said on CNN a week ago that this
clash is a dangerous game, that at least poses the danger of a mis-step that could accidentally lead to nuclear
war, and that we're "three short steps away from war".

This one, with Alex Jones interviewing a former military officer (allegedly and anonymously), is even more interesting.



Alleging the U.S. military has plans to provoke a battlefield first strike by the Russians in Ukraine, to allow U.S. nuclear
retaliation, that cripples Russian forces and allows the U.S. (in the lack of Russia having the ability to further respond)
to go ahead and take out Syria and Iran!

Oh, and by the way, Iran has already had nuclear weapons for years.
Plus the U.S. military is thoroughly infiltrated by
Russian and Chinese sleeper agents. Seduced and brought to the other side by hot sexy blonde Russian spies.
Lively stuff.

EMP Nightmare: How Iran or North Korea Could Destroy America with a Single Bomb



A more serious discussion of using nuclear EMP weapons against the United States, by either Iran or North Korea.

As much as George W. Bush was demonized during his presidency for his alleged wrongheaded paranoia about an
"axis of evil" between Iran, Syria and North Korea regarding proliferation of nuclear weapons,
there has been considerable evidence of that secretive cooperation in recent years. Beginning with the
Israeli bombing of a Syrian facility that (post-attack, examining the bombed remains) had a more advanced
nuclear program than anyone expected them to have, some of the components being North Korean,
speeding development along.

The above clip discusses Iranian nuclear scientists attending a North Korean nuclear test. And pretty
impressive video of a North Korean underground test, presumably taken by a U.S. reconnaissance
satellite or plane.

And I've seen other reports previously about Iran testing a new missile from a ship in the Caspian sea,
that would likewise fit the scenario of a dry run for an EMP attack on the U S.

We think of the United States as insulated from foreign powers by the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. But as
this clip details, they could sail up in a missile-capable ship and launch 12 miles off our shore, with
virtually no response time.

Five experiments that could have ended the world



2 of the 5 involved nuclear weapons.

The one in 1945 involved the then-untested chain reaction of a nuclear explosion, and they didn't know if the
chain reaction would stop at some point and just create a huge explosion, or whether the chain reaction would
continue to consume earth's entire atmosphere.
But they did it anyway.
The 1962 one I wasn't aware of.

Top 10 Ways the World Might End (in the Next 100 Years)

I've heard a fair amount over the last few days about the "blood moon" occurring over the last few days.

This is the best explanation I've seen:

Another 10-minute clip on the Bilderberg Group, focusing on the push to integrate the U.S., Canada and Mexico,
that has occurred for decades under presidents of both parties, in a push toward a borderless North American
Union similar to the EU. And that similar pushes are being made (orchestrated by the same leaders in
Bilderberg and Council on Foreign Relations) in Europe, Asia and Africa.

Support of globalism undermines our Constitution and national sovereignty, and is therefore treason
against the United States. And huge strides have been made toward that goal in recent years. Some good
quotes to that effect by Ron Paul, Glenn Beck and others here.


New World Order Bilderberg Group - Open Your Eyes and See The TRUTH.

This one gives Obama's videotaped comment to Medvedev,
"I can be much more flexible after the election" a whole new meaning:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq9S5L6GJzQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Bp205p0lXI

Another Alex Jones piece, interviewing a woman who is a former DHS official, who was a whistle-blower, and for her honesty was harassed by federal law enforcement agencies after she would not help in the cover-up, and instead made a former complaint and went public.

Warning to AmeriKa...Ret. General Special Forces (Lt General Boykin explains how marxist insurrectionist he was trained to counter in other nations, are now being used on the United States.)




U.S. Army prepares to invade U.S. (federal martial law changes from 1980's to 2008)

This one (the first 10 minutes) goes into all the various technologies over the last four decades that were thought
to be implementation of the "mark of the Beast on everyone's right hand and forehead" technology, and the current
developing system involves a "healthcare chip" required by Obamacare.

I've seen several maps like this of "future visions" by Edgar Cayce and other psychics (i.e., not credible).
This video, among several others I've seen, give a plausible scientific explanation for how a massive
earthquake could split the U.S. along the Mississippi River, and flood much of the east andwest coast.



Although the many videos on the subject (like this one) are all over the place about whether this would be
(1) a short-sighted accident of over-mining,
(2) an intentional planned destruction to de-populate the U.S.,
(3) or possibly a completely natural disaster that occurs every few hundred years.

I've seen a lot about countries like Iran or North Korea doing nuclear tests that could unleash an EMP to destroy the U.S. power grid and infrastructure.

This one cites Chinese plans to do this to the U.S.:

And this one cites plans by the U.S. to unleash pre-emptive nuclear strikes on China and Russia!

The most immediate and foreseeable threat to the U.S., and the broader global system, is economic collapse:



All that has to occur is for the existing projections of unsustainable debt to continue.
Or for the additional shock of another costly crisis, such as a massive earthquake (as occurred in Japan).
Or something like 9-11-2001 that took 1 trillion dollars out of the economy.
Or a doubling of interest rates on the U.S. national debt. Or a massive war.
Or an economic collapse in Europe or China, that sends shockwaves through the already fragile U.S. system. Or vice versa, as occurred in Germany and the rest of Europe after the 1929 collapse.

Until we have a president who starts running annual surpluses, I won't be optimistic that there's any way we aren't doomed. And from what I've seen, Europe, China, Japan, and South America are just as much in debt, and danger.

That 14 trillion in debt, just 3 years ago, is now almost 18 trillion.

America FALSE FLAG Imminent: US Generals Who Won't Enforce Martial Law Being Fired



.I've seen this allegation that Obama is purging our military of officers who will act responsibly and independently, and who "won't fire on U.S. civilians."

But I don't know how you'd go about proving that.
I've frankly seen (and posted) other videos that do a better job of making that case, some interviewing former military officers.

Obama's War on American Generals

• During the Bush administration there were only two American commanders of the International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan. Under Obama there have so far been five. There has been a new ISAF commander nearly every single year that Obama has been in office. The only exception is 2012 when Obama was too busy trying to win an election to bother further sabotaging a losing war.
  
  The parade of musical chair generals began when Obama demanded the resignation of General McKiernan. The Washington Post called the firing of a wartime commander a “rare decision.” It was the first time since the days of General Douglas MacArthur that a four-star commanding general had been purged during a war.
  
  The decision may have been rare, but it was not unexpected. General McKiernan was fired for the same offense that General McArthur had been targeted during the Korean War: He had demanded competency from an incompetent Democrat.
  
  McKiernan had embarrassed Obama by demanding more troops to fight the war. The situation came to a head as General McKiernan pressed an indecisive Obama to make a decision. It was a devastating scene for an administration which had covered its pivot away from Iraq with concern trolling about winning in Afghanistan. The troops would be delivered, but McKiernan would pay the price.
  
  General McKiernan’s firing was put down to the need for fresh ideas. McKiernan was deemed too “old school” because he wanted to fight an old-fashioned war against the Taliban while Obama Inc. believed that the war couldn’t be won by beating the Taliban, but by winning the hearts and minds of Afghans. It was a fashionable and doomed strategy that required sacrificing the lives and limbs of thousands of American soldiers to political correctness.
  
  The old-school general who had once said, “I don’t understand ever putting your men and women in harm’s way, without their having the full ability to protect themselves. That also means operating on actionable intelligence to defeat insurgents, and protect your forces. That’s how you keep your soldiers alive,” was clearly not the man for that job.
  
  Replacing him as ISAF commander was General McChrystal. McChrystal was everything that McKiernan wasn’t. He was hip fresh blood. He voted for Obama, listened to the right music and was a big fan of counterinsurgency. He hooked up with Greg Mortenson and handed out copies of Three Cups of Tea to his staff. The book proved to be a fraud and so did the COIN strategy for winning over the Afghans.
  
  American soldiers were prevented from defending themselves to avoid offending the Afghans and the war was not moving forward. McChrystal claimed that he had presented a plan to Washington for defeating the Taliban, but Washington only wanted their capabilities degraded. The relationship between McChrystal and Obama also degraded, and McChrystal was fired over a negative Rolling Stone article that revealed that the ISAF commander held Obama and his cronies in contempt.
  
  Urgently, Obama swapped out General McChrystal for General Petraeus, a former enemy now turned wartime ally. In only two years, Obama had gone through three generals and fired two wartime four-star generals, setting a new record for mismanaging a war.
  
  Petraeus’s move from Central Command to commanding the ISAF was unprecedented and did not last long. With the Taliban undefeated and the conflict shifting from a military war to a campaign of drone strikes and targeted assassinations, General Petraeus shifted over to the CIA to command the new fallback position of the war effort as Director Petraeus. But a year later, Petraeus met the same fate as McKiernan and McChrystal after alienating the CIA top brass which enmeshed him in a scandal. It did not help matters any that Republicans were salivating over the idea of a Petraeus candidacy in 2016.
  
  Petraeus had been replaced by General Allen, who became enmeshed in the same scandal, and the confirmation hearings of his replacement, General Dunford, were sped up. This month, Dunford has taken command of an ISAF in retreat as Afghanistan has become the new Iraq. And Dunford has become the fifth ISAF commander under Obama. Of his four predecessors, all have ended their careers under a cloud.
  
  The War in Afghanistan has been lost and so have the careers of most of its commanders. Obama has constantly swapped out generals, and unlike the rotating allied ISAF commanders during the Bush era, many of them were fired because they threatened Obama politically in some way.
  
  The record is an ugly one, but it is not limited to the war theater in Afghanistan. After the Benghazi disaster, General Carter Ham of AFRICOM was reportedly edged out after telling a Republican Congressman that he had not received any requests for support. His replacement, General Rodriguez, had earlier taken over part of McKiernan’s job after Obama had forced him out.
  
  More recently General Mattis, the commander of United States Central Command, Petraeus’s old job, was booted out without even a personal phone call for being too hawkish about Iran. The insult was unprecedented and the reason was the same. Like McKiernan and McChrystal, Mattis had offended important people in the Obama administration. And for that he paid the price.
  
  General Dempsey, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, exemplifies the costs of career survival in the age of Obama. Dempsey echoes everything that the civilians tell him. He never disagrees with them in public and likely not in private. Whatever new gimmick comes out of the White House, whether it’s Green Energy or homosexuality, he’s right there behind it and out in front of it.
  
  Dempsey has no ideas of his own and he doesn’t need any. He has nothing to bring to the table except a willingness to act as Obama’s pet parrot in a uniform. When McChrystal first met Obama, he recalled thinking that Obama was “uncomfortable and intimidated” by the room full of military brass. That observation helped get McChrystal fired and these days it’s the military brass that feels uncomfortable and intimidated by Obama Inc.

Assuming Republicans are able to oust the democratic hegemony, one of my requirements for a decent president will be for the president to undo the damage that has been done to our command structure and morale. Both are shit right now, and no one trusts the (new) generals in play.

I agree with your sentiments. On all fronts, a Republican president has to be elected in 2016 to rebuild what has been destroyed by Obama. If Hillary Clinton were elected (another student of Alinsky and Cultural Marxism, who did her masters thesis on Alinsky) she would complete the destruction begun by Obama.


A good article, if alarming in what it reveals, of how competent and courageous officers are being replaced by spineless yes-men, right up to the Joint Chief himself.

This particular line stood out for me in the article:



The last two paragraphs about Dempsey are equally hard-hitting. If these officers are not willing to take risks and stand up to Obama and the suits that surround him, how can they possibly stand up to the Russiaans, Chinese, Iranians, ISIS and Al Qaida?

I hope we can survive the next 20 months till Nov 2016, and at that point have a president who will rebuild what Obama has destroyed. And who knows what other damage Obama can do in the remainder of his term?

But in my previous posts and others I've posted in this topic and elsewhere, I've underscored the fact that Obama's DHS has accumulated (at last count) 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition, much of it hollow-point ammunition that could not be used for foreign wars or for training and target practice.
Again, it has been alleged that Obama is replacing officers with ones who are willing to fire on U.S. civilians. The above article shows Obama's purging of our military fighting Islamic terror, but doesn't specifically address the domestic allegations. But when you consider what Obama has done on foreign fronts, and to the Washington military leadership, using the IRS and other federal agencies to harass and intimidate Tea Party and Republican political leadership, and the DHS memos that target Tea Party and conservatives as domestic threats that warrant additional surveillance, it certainly seems more possible that Obama would select officers that would fire on U.S. civilians.

Is that the destruction of the military or the US in general? Not looking for a debate, just curious (it's the wrong forum anyway, we'd get banned). If Hillary Clinton was elected what would America look like at the end of her term?

I suspect that it would have some tasteful curtains and all the furniture would match.

I assume Wondy started writing a post but the drones got him. RIP Wondy.

Nope, just away long enough that I forgot about this topic.

Hillary is bought and paid for by George Soros and the Council on Foreign Relations, and would do their globalist bidding to further undermine U.S. sovereignty and reign us into a global system.
She's also already telegraphed her intentions ("an open boorders western hemisphere") to further open our borders to illegal immigrants.

U.S. National security would continue to weaken, as military funding would be diverted to social spending.
National debt (already 20 trillion by inauguration in Jan 2017) would continue to climb dangerously.
ISIS and the Taliban would continue to grow under Hillary, following the same negligent policy as her predecessor Obama.

I started this as a topic to post both serious apocalyptic news, as well as wildly silly apocalyptic predictions.

A category that often renders serious predictions silly are those I term "Apocalyptic predictions with an expiration date". A recent group I've run across are at least a dozen or so roughly titled
"DOLLAR COLLAPSES MAY 28, 2016 !"



This one I actually watched 2 years ago under a different title. The urgency of the title date gets people to click, but when the date passes, instantly opens itself to ridicule.

The comments for these type of videos are often more entertaining than the video itself. Although this one is interesting. Although I'm of the opinion that a guy who has no face or personal website, and yields virtually no information in a google search, doesn't engender much trust in his predictions.

"Flight from Cities: Something's Happening" (Alex Jones channel)




Flight of population from large cities to rural areas, in anticipation of economic collapse and chaos.

Not fully buying it, but interesting.

THIS IS IT!! YOU MUST WATCH THIS, THE MOST IMPORTANT VIDEO YOU WILL EVER WATCH!! YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT!!

THIS VIDEO WILL TERRIFY YOU!! WORLD ECONOMIC COLLAPSE




Yeah, well... you have to admit, the guy is quite a salesman. And his impending apocalypse videos are basically weekly infomercials for all the doomsday prepper stuff he sells.
I first saw one of this guy's videos about 8 years ago, and the intensity hasn't diminished. THE TITLES ARE ALWAYS IN ALL CAPS! WITH LOTS OF EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!

And the comments are hilarious.

I've studied nuclear war for 35 years -- you should be worried. | Brian Toon | TEDxMileHigh

Mt. St. Helens 30th Anniversary Documentary




A documentary on the 1980 Mount St. Helens eruption in Washington state, that is the origin of the "nuclear winter theory", based on how the eruption pushed large amounts of ash into the upper atmosphere that resulted in a colling of the earth and sever winters throughout most of the 1980's after the eruption.
The theory is that nuclear explosions would push so much ash into the upper atmosphere that it would darken the earth and kill all plant life, or at least enough to starve most or all of the world's population. Even a limited exchange between smaller nuclear powers like India and Pakistan could create this effect and kill off the world's population.

On the plus side, this video is filled with beautiful mountain and forest landscapes, presumably filmed mostly from a helicopter. This is the most beautiful disaster area I've ever seen! And has recovered at a remarkable pace.
Similar "super-volcano" explosions millions of years ago have released enough toxic chemicals in the air to kill off all animal life on the continent, and others similarly elsewhere in the world. On a smaller scale, Pompei in Italy during Roman times. But this video makes me want to visit there, rather than fear it.

The Day the Mesozoic Died: The Asteroid That Killed the Dinosaurs — HHMI BioInteractive Video



An even better documentary on the geological evidence that led to discovery of the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. From evidence found all over the world, that finally led to the Yucatan peninsula.

Whether volcanoes, large meteor impacts, or the potential effects of nuclear war that would achieve the same result less naturally, all make clear just how fragile our civilization is, and how easily it could be wiped away.

Naked Science - Super Volcanoes



Another documentary, on supervolcanoes. At the end they say a continent-wide volcanic extinction event happens about every 700,000 years somewhere in the world. And Yellowstone is the center of such events in the U.S. It could result in diminishing sun and killing farm crops, and thus starving millions to death. If large enough an event, most or all of human civilization.

"Naked science" sounds like some kind of weird porn for nerds.

On the Brink Doomsday (1997)



Citing the history of the Cold War, and near misses since it began that almost resulted in all-out nuclear war, in 1962, 1973, 1979, and 1995.

This is one of the grimmest I've seen, but it at least gives a realistic projection of what would occur in an EMP or other mass disaster situation, and how to prepare for it (if survival is even possible).


What To Expect After An EMP

National Geographic - "Electronic Armageddon"

David Icke - Culling The Population (with implanted computer chips in humans)




This guy David Icke is kind of like Michael Moore or Alex Jones, where he ostensibly seems to be presenting facts, but facts interwoven with a lot opinion and wild speculation and conspiracy theory.

Prophecy is Happening Now! (2018-2019)




From a technological perspective, with globalism, "crypto currency" and the move toward a cashless society, the internet, and being connected and online making anyone traceable and surveiled , RFID chips, and the move toward having an identity chip planned to be implanted in the right hand or forehead... how all this coincides with Biblical end-time prophecy.

The Scary Future of America! (2019-2020)




Detailing recent technological inventions (computer speed, electronic surveillance, a RFID computer chip in palm or forehead for identification and tracking, cashless society) and how they gel with Bible end-time prophecy.

Google Won't Tell You This!

Coronavirus outbreak in China topic (now spread to the rest of the world).

I'll be a lot more at ease once this crisis passes.