Victoria is a man.

Cool story bro

You know what isn't a secret? McGurk should kill himself.

Are you referring top all those Victoria's Secret christmas commercials, with all the hot supoermodels in only bra-and-panties and angel wings?

No complaints!

Them's ain't no men!

Although I prefer women who, y'know, eat once in a while.

Thanks for clarifying something we all knew.

Who else can make the Boston Bawler wish for my demise without referencing him at all? Now to find where I left the picture...

Holy severe spinal damage, Batman!



Broken!

Anyone who would ask the question.

You don't have to be afraid of my continuing existence. I'm not the president of FedEx, fence tosser.

The implied transphobia of this thread disgust me.

Just because some women were unfortunate to be born with male genitals, doesn't give us (cismales) the right to ridicule them.

I always thought "she-males" was a voluntary condition.

Gross, but voluntary.

I think it was intended to be fun and playfully surprising , not as "transphobic".
Any more than backlashes of "Ann Coulter is a man" are transphobic. It just implies that Ann Coulter is tough like a man. And I think McGurk's remark was far more light and humorous in intent than the remarks directed at Coulter.


I actually had to look up the term "cismales", and although some of the details are still not clear to me, it roughly translates to trans-gender

I was likewise trying to be fun.

I jokingly said "gross" because it isn't something that aligns with my tastes. The same way that I think putting ketchup on a hot dog is gross.

There was a guy named Magicjay who used to post here who became a fun contributer here for a while, and was an articulate representative of the transgender lifestyle. As I recall he lived in the San Francisco area, and had an operation to become a woman around the time he stopped posting here.

Both of you really need to stop posting here.

Perhaps in retrospect comparison to hot dogs was ill-advised in discussing sexual issues.

All of your posts are bad. Just stop doing it.

You hear the broken basement bandit, Wondy. Better run for your life before he clicks you to death with his flamethrowing mouse of darkness that he probably didn't buy himself.

"She-males" is generally seen as derogatory term. You may hear or see some transwomen use, but consider that some Afro-Americans use the word "Nigger" or "Niggah". Some think it's the right way to "take back" derogatory terms, some don't. (Just the same, it's equally offensive to use "he-shes" for transmen.)

The correct term is pre-op (pre operation) transwoman, or Male-to-Female (MtF). (Transmen are often referred to as Female-to-Male.) Some transwomen can't afford or for whatever reason does not choose to do either HRT (hormone replacement therapy) or SRS (sex reassignment surgery). To get SRS, you have to first to do HRT. HRT is a process that takes years. This is what makes transwomen develop breasts, biologically similar to how cisgender (I'll explain that term in the next post) girls develop breasts during puberty. They also (usually) create mood swings and decreased (!) libido, and they always get sterile as a side effect. Usually, MtF:s do also voice training so they'll sound more like ciswomen.

So for a several years, a MtF could have what you call a "condition", not because of choice, but because she needs to wait for the hormones to do their job first.

Some MtF do choose to not get SRS, due to preferring to keep their male genitals. Perhaps because *they* don't mind them and/or because they feel SRS is emasculating. It should be noted that SRS for MtF doesn't mean that the penis is just cut off; it's "split" into three parts and then molded into a vagina, labia, clitoris etc. (The testicles, however, are discarded.)

You may feel grossed out by pre-op MtF. Some don't. (I, and for what it's worth, our mutual comrade Pariah, are not. I'll admit I used to be.) However, no one is forcing you to have relationships or sex with either MtF or FtM, nor should you be forced. Just like you shouldn't be forced to have sex or relationships with overweight women if you find chubby, fat and/or obese women unattractive. Or women with disabilities. Or with scars or burn marks.

I'm sorry Dave, but those who were against Coulter and used that bad rhetoric were indeed claiming she was MtF, with the remarks of her supposed Adam's apple and looks in general.

But I should have refereed only to the original poster rather than the whole thread, since I know see how other (innocent) posters could mistake my post as directed to them all.


I'm sorry Dave, but that interpretation is incorrect.

Cisgender is actually very simple. Easiest way to put it, is that it's the opposite of transgender.

A cisgender person, like you (I assume as much) and me, are male spirits/souls/minds in male bodies. We are, basically, content with being males in male bodies.

A transgender person is someone who's spirit/soul/mind does not correspond with his or her body. Often described as being "born in the wrong body". A MtF is a women "trapped" in a male body, a FtM is a man "trapped" in a woman's body.


I don't really think the analogy is apt, but whatever flows your boat, I guess.



First of all, being MtF or FtM it's not a lifestyle choice more than it is for me to wear spectacles, due to me being myopic. I don't consider myself to have a "myopic" life-style. (There are those who wear glasses without needing them; they wear spectacles with window glasses instead of lenses. But I digress.) However, transgender is a broad term that envelope being MtF/FtM as well as transvestites, Drag Queens, Drag Kings and other cross-dressers. If you think a MtF is having a "transgender life-style" because she wears a skirt before HRT and SRS, I suppose you have a point. But it's a very minor point.

Second, I doubt Magicjay (I remember very little of her, I must add) considered herself "male" right until she got SRS. As I said before, a MtF isn't a male who chooses to be a woman, a MtF is a woman who wants to get a female body which she is comfortable with. Which I pointed out earlier, is far from being without cost, but much better than living in the wrong type of body.

...sounds like a dynamic name for a new S-F/superhero book.

Something Jim Lee or John Byrne would draw.

Rex has been neutered.

It really was a guy?? Looks like the joke's on me.

No, he's Victoria.

His secret is the wimmen and their lingerie.

Etymology isn't my expertise, but Trans is the same root as Transition and Transport. If you know Latin (I don't), you may have heard about Gallia cisalpina / Gallia transalpina. Trans means "across", "beyond" or "on the opposite side". Cis means "on the same side [as]" or "on this side [of]". (Source: Wikipedia & members of a another forum).

So one could claim that Kurt Wagner/Nightcrawler and Jon/Doctor Manhattan are trans, in one meaning of the prefix...

I know you're reading this post. Don't act like you aren't.

I know I am.

Which both?

Rex is my kind of guy.

Fuck off, Gerald.

Eat shit and die,daddies little sponge gargler!