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Posted By: Mr. Lesbo The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-13 1:28 AM
I know they look cool but please...... Imagine throwing a CAPE onto an air plane. I know it wouldn't look cool but by god the crash sure would! Can anyone do a comic book with no capes? Better yet,,,, some bad guy/gal that knows how to fight and turn capes against those whom wear them... Now there is a good idea for a villain (that's a joke). I knew there had to be a reason I enjoyed the Ultimate Universe so much. Even Thor has no cape. I hate capes!!!! NUFF SAID!!!!
Posted By: King Snarf Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-13 2:50 AM
You have no soul.
Posted By: Uschi Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-13 2:51 AM
Capes are cool.
Posted By: Mr. Lesbo Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-13 2:55 AM
I know....... But by god,,,, Never mind.
Posted By: Kaz Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-13 3:18 AM
I'm with you... Logistically, they just don't make much sense. They're merely aesthetically pleasing.
Posted By: Mr. Lesbo Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-13 3:20 AM
hahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha ummmmmmm okay.
Posted By: Pariah Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-13 3:20 AM
Batman's cape is strategical. It's supposed to help fear factor.
Posted By: King Snarf Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-13 3:21 AM
To be honest, I think Joe Rogan's got matters well in hand....
Posted By: Mr. Lesbo Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-13 3:32 AM
Batmans cape..... Please! It would take Superman to make it work! It's no wonder the Ultimate Universe kicks butt. lol Strategical.... U try to swing from a rope or climb buildings in that. lol Ummmmm, are U Superman?
Posted By: rex Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-13 4:06 AM
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King Snarf said:
To be honest, I think Joe Rogan's got matters well in hand....






Isn't the purpose of batmans cape to make him appear larger, which makes him harder to hit with bullets?
Posted By: Mr. Lesbo Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-13 4:12 AM
Fear Factor? Thank the big guy comics are about the look and not reality. lol Batman would be in real trouble. hahahaha I still hate the cape! Street thugs would beat Batman to death thanks to his cape. I still say Superman would do it as things are..... Superman would kill Batman. Yep...... Cape or not,,, Superman would do it....
Posted By: Pariah Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-13 4:55 AM
It's also lined with nomex.
Posted By: First Amongst Daves Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-13 5:27 AM
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rex said:
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King Snarf said:
To be honest, I think Joe Rogan's got matters well in hand....






Isn't the purpose of batmans cape to make him appear larger, which makes him harder to hit with bullets?




Post-rationalisation.

Its supposed to give the character the feeling of movement when drawn. Which is why Wolverine is drawn in static poses.
Posted By: Pariah Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-13 5:28 AM
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Dave said:
Post-rationalisation.

Its supposed to give the character the feeling of movement when drawn. Which is why Wolverine is drawn in static poses.




Rationalization or not, if the device works, keep it.
Posted By: First Amongst Daves Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-13 6:21 AM
I like Midnighter's coat better.
Posted By: Jeremy Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-13 8:26 AM
Have you seen The Incredibles yet? There's a joke in there about how it doesn't work for superheroes to wear capes. Funny stuff.
Posted By: Uschi Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-13 9:12 AM
neither does it work for superheros to have long hair, but you don't see Wonder Woman shaving bald, do you?
Posted By: Carnyfoke Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-13 11:46 AM
If realism is so important to you, and you're dealing with comics, shouldn't the functionality of capes be the last thing on your list of priorities?
Posted By: thedoctor Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-13 5:11 PM
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Dave said:
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rex said:
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King Snarf said:
To be honest, I think Joe Rogan's got matters well in hand....






Isn't the purpose of batmans cape to make him appear larger, which makes him harder to hit with bullets?




Post-rationalisation.

Its supposed to give the character the feeling of movement when drawn. Which is why Wolverine is drawn in static poses.




If you want to get technical, the reason Batman has a cape is because Superman had one. Same with the undies on the outside. Bob Kane admitted to just tracing Superman's outline and doing minor changes.

But, as has been said, even looking at the early '39-40's material, Batman's cape is drawn cloaked over his body and sticking out a good bit to make him appear bigger than he was. Rationalisation or not, it is still a valid explaination.
Posted By: Mr. Lesbo Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-14 12:41 AM
I wonder if Wonder Woman would still look hot bald?
Posted By: Jason E. Perkins Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-14 12:50 AM
What are you talking about? Wonder Woman shaves.
Posted By: Jason E. Perkins Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-14 12:50 AM
Oh, you were talking about... oh.
Posted By: Rob Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-14 12:59 AM
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Dave said:
Post-rationalisation.




something i'm fine with. as a miller fan, you could also see the same thoughts regarding the chest symbol, which previously was without logical explanation.

if batman were to make sense, he wouldn't have a cape, wouldn't have a symbol, wouldn't have a name, wouldn't wear a mask, wouldn't have handles atop his head, and wouldn't drive around in a big, splashy, fire-spewing car that everyone can clearly see heading towards wayne manor every evening.

but the fact that the character has done all that for so long without much fuss means its become acceptible. its now just a matter of making it excusable.

and, with comic book physics and logic, writers can get all sortsa creative with the reasoning.

the chest symbol, as mentioned above, is (or was) to draw gun fire to a part of the body easier to shield.

the cape has many uses. its been used as an offensive weapon, with weighted edges that batman can whip around. its been used to help cloak him in darkness and hide. it helps to give the regular-man-sized bruce wayne the appearance of being much larger and demonic. it helps to grab the air and slow his descent in roof top leaps. it can be shielded in ways his costume can't to protect from acid or fire.
Posted By: Grimm Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-14 1:23 AM
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If you want to get technical, the reason Batman has a cape is because Superman had one. Same with the undies on the outside. Bob Kane admitted to just tracing Superman's outline and doing minor changes.





Yes and no. He did use Superman's body as the base image for Batman's form. But originally, he had given Batman wings on his back ala Hawkman. (One of the inspirations for the design being a sketch by Leonardo Da Vinci of a flying machine with bat like wings.)

It was Bill Finger's suggestion that Kane give him a cape, instead. You can still see in the early appearances where Kane gives the cape a more winglike appearance.

Capes are a visual aid in a character's appearance, primarily used in a visual medium. Are they dated? Sure, for most characters. But, Batman's cape still works where many don't. Why does Thor need a cape, for instance? He doesn't. At least, not a bright, red one.
Posted By: thedoctor Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-14 1:35 AM
Hey, I'm just saying what Bob Kane himself had said in an interview.
Posted By: Grimm Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-14 1:38 AM
Kane also had originally given Batman a red costume. A red costumed, winged Batman. Would it have lasted? Hmm. . .
Posted By: Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-14 11:51 AM
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Pariah said:
Batman's cape is strategical. It's supposed to help fear factor.



Batman's cape has weighted ends so when he spins around or swings the cape at something it can help in a fight.
Posted By: wannabuyamonkey Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-14 9:10 PM
This topic is dealt with quite humorously in "The Incredibles"
Posted By: Poverty Lad Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-14 9:42 PM
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Uschi said:
you don't see Wonder Woman shaving bald, do you?







Ohh.... You meant...
Posted By: Mr. Lesbo Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-15 2:25 AM
Are we talking about the Wonder Taco here? heheheheheheheheehehehe
Posted By: Jeremy Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-15 2:44 AM
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wannabuyamonkey said:
This topic is dealt with quite humorously in "The Incredibles"




As I stated earlier in this thread.
Posted By: Uschi Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-15 5:34 AM
redundancy? Here?! UNHEARD OF.
Posted By: Jeremy Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-15 6:34 AM
Department of redundancy department, how can I help you?
Posted By: First Amongst Daves Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-15 9:50 AM
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Grimm said:
Kane also had originally given Batman a red costume. A red costumed, winged Batman. Would it have lasted? Hmm. . .




An interesting proposition. I don't see why not.

It would make a good Elseworlds story, if nothing else.
Posted By: Fused Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-15 10:27 PM
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Wednesday said:
What are you talking about? Wonder Woman shaves.




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Wednesday said:
Oh, you were talking about... oh.




Bwahahahaa! ! !! Best. Mental Imagery. Ever.
Posted By: Grimm Re: The Cape,,,,, - 2004-12-15 10:45 PM
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Dave said:
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Grimm said:
Kane also had originally given Batman a red costume. A red costumed, winged Batman. Would it have lasted? Hmm. . .




An interesting proposition. I don't see why not.

It would make a good Elseworlds story, if nothing else.




I'm surprised they haven't done it already.
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