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It's time for people to wake up and don't let this angry Black man who hates America into the White House. Obama and Wright are so full of Black Rage it is scary.
 Originally Posted By: PJP
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It's time for people to wake up and don't let this angry Black man who hates America into the White House. Obama and Wright are so full of Black Rage it is scary.


Are you sure that Reverend Wright is on the ticket?
close enough......he made Barack into what he is today.
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
 Originally Posted By: PJP
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It's time for people to wake up and don't let this angry Black man who hates America into the White House. Obama and Wright are so full of Black Rage it is scary.


Are you sure that Reverend Wright is on the ticket?


spiritually yes, you need to read Hussein's book....
 Originally Posted By: PJP
close enough......he made Barack into what he is today.


Don't forget ayers. He deserves some of the credit.
Barack was only 8 the first time Wright blamed a jew for something.
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
 Originally Posted By: PJP
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It's time for people to wake up and don't let this angry Black man who hates America into the White House. Obama and Wright are so full of Black Rage it is scary.


Are you sure that Reverend Wright is on the ticket?



Serious question.

If you went to a church and your pastor, priest or whatever said America was evil and called for the death of jews, what would you do?
say hi to Barack on the way out.
 Originally Posted By: PJP
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It's time for people to wake up and don't let this angry Black man who hates America into the White House. Obama and Wright are so full of Black Rage it is scary.



I just sent $10 to them. A small price to pay for freedom. thanks for the heads up.
"Always remember that you are Americans, and it is your birthright to dream great dreams in this sweet and blessed land, truly the greatest, freest, strongest nation on Earth." — Ronald Reagan


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Serious question for you Rex.

A famous felon invites you onto his radio show. He's written about various plots to firebomb & assasinate that he planned to carry out if he wanted to. Do you go on his radio show & be greeted as an old friend or tell him to fuck off?
Ayers has a radio show?
You didn't answer my question, why should I answer yours?
 Originally Posted By: rex
You didn't answer my question, why should I answer yours?


I wouldn't go to that church or do the radio show. Politicians however work things differently. Trinity is the largest church in Chicago, the voter base was probably what interested Obama. McCain does the radio show not because he admires Gordon Liddy but to reach out to all his right wing fans.
So you equate listening to antisemitism and anti-Americanism for 20 years with a talk show appearance?
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
 Originally Posted By: rex
You didn't answer my question, why should I answer yours?


I wouldn't go to that church or do the radio show. Politicians however work things differently. Trinity is the largest church in Chicago, the voter base was probably what interested Obama. McCain does the radio show not because he admires Gordon Liddy but to reach out to all his right wing fans.
Obama has said he is the man that made me who I am today.......he married him and he baptized his kids.......let's just say he used him and the church just for a voter base that is almost as bad. It is pathetic any way you slice it. Hilary didn't think it was a good relationship and said the same things we are.
MEM has forgotten about Hillary, her and the moderate Dems are going to be thrown according to whomod...
 Originally Posted By: BASAMS The Plumber
So you equate listening to antisemitism and anti-Americanism for 20 years with a talk show appearance?


I would think for some of the things you've said that you would identify with Wright more.
another answer dodge, you should be Joe Biden....
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
 Originally Posted By: rex
You didn't answer my question, why should I answer yours?


I wouldn't go to that church or do the radio show. Politicians however work things differently. Trinity is the largest church in Chicago, the voter base was probably what interested Obama. McCain does the radio show not because he admires Gordon Liddy but to reach out to all his right wing fans.
that was rex's question. are you ok?
He can't read your post with his head that far in the sand.
I'll repeat what I've said earlier.

mem is the most ignorant pollyanna bitch on these boards. Say anything bad about something he likes and he throws a hissyfit or out right ignores you. Call him out on something he said and he says you're being mean. He is the end result of what obama wants.
It's not his fault.....that is how liberal politicians answer questions.
it's all he knows.
Rex you didn't answer my question.
everyone please answer everyone else's questions!
 Originally Posted By: BASAMS The Plumber
that was rex's question. are you ok?


I was just showing that I didn't dodge a question. To answer your question specifically let's put it this way, I would rather be trapped on an elevator with someone who might preach angry rhetoric every couple of years than a felon who might assasinate me. How about you?
You did dodge the question.
 Originally Posted By: rex
You did dodge the question.


It's ok if you can't answer the question Rex.
Posted By: the G-man Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 4:25 AM
[quote=Matter-eater ManI would rather be trapped on an elevator with someone who might preach angry rhetoric every couple of years than a felon who might assasinate me. [/quote]

So you prefer Wright to Ayers...
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 4:29 AM
 Originally Posted By: the G-man of Zur-En-Arrh
[quote=Matter-eater ManI would rather be trapped on an elevator with someone who might preach angry rhetoric every couple of years than a felon who might assasinate me.


So you prefer Wright to Ayers... [/quote][/quote]

We were discussing Wright & your icon Liddy (the would be assassin)
Posted By: Captain Sammitch Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 4:38 AM
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
Edited by Matter-eater Man (10/27/08 09:29 PM)
division and fear.

The gOP's favourite tactic.

so hows that Bill Ayers working out for you guys?
No silly, wright and obama are the ones dividing and trying to scare people. You need to stop living in bizarro world.
Pretty good, talked to a woman at work today who said she wasn't voting for no terrorist.
Posted By: the G-man Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 4:52 AM
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
 Originally Posted By: the G-man of Zur-En-Arrh
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater ManI would rather be trapped on an elevator with someone who might preach angry rhetoric every couple of years than a felon who might assasinate me.


So you prefer Wright to Ayers...
[/quote


We were discussing Wright & your icon Liddy (the would be assassin)


Oh, that's right. I forgot that, in your liberal fantasy world, McCain attended G. Gordon Liddy's church for twenty years, after launching his political career in Liddy's home.
Posted By: Irwin Schwab Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 4:54 AM
\:lol\:
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 4:58 AM
 Originally Posted By: the G-man of Zur-En-Arrh
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McCain has been on Liddy's radio show.
Posted By: the G-man Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 5:03 AM
And Hillary has been on O'Reilly. I guess that means she and O'Reilly agree on everything and are close friends?

And let's not forget all the many Democrats--including Obama-- who used to go on Don Imus. I'm sure that every single one of them thought that "nappy headed hos" was perfectly acceptable.
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 5:08 AM
Did O'Reilly or Imus have various plots to kill, kidnap or firebomb?
Posted By: Irwin Schwab Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 5:10 AM
Bill Ayers did!
Posted By: the G-man Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 5:11 AM
Yeah, and unlike Liddy...he actually carried them out.

Oh and there is another difference: LIDDY DIDN'T LAUNCH MCCAIN'S CAREER AND PAL AROUND WITH HIM FOR YEARS!
Posted By: Matter-eater Man Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 5:14 AM
Actually I think McCain has guested on his old friend's radio show a couple of times over the years.
Posted By: Captain Sammitch Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 5:29 AM
you really are that retarded...
Posted By: the G-man Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 5:30 AM
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
Actually I think McCain has guested on his old friend's radio show a couple of times over the years.


Oopsie:
  • Despite their political differences, Liddy and Al Franken are friends. Franken has been on Liddy's radio show multiple times. Liddy shares a similar friendship with noted feminist Camille Paglia, who has also appeared several times on his show. Liddy is friends with yet another well-known Democratic operative: Lanny Davis. A lawyer, a friend of the Clintons, and an outspoken supporter of President Bill Clinton during his second term, Davis has been on Liddy's radio show numerous times, and for many years, when Davis appeared on Liddy's show, he would be boasted as "The liberal's liberal" and "Defending the Indefensible – The Clinton Presidency", and would have a special spiel played


 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
Al Franken in '08...Not for President but for MN Senate.



You are such a hypocritical sack of shit.
 Originally Posted By: Rob Kamphausen
everyone please answer everyone else's questions!


Why was allan1 fired from his job as Arcade Room mod?
i failed to specify that you didn't have to answer questions from alts \:\(

very well then. allan1 hadn't gotten the chance to post that often. i believe he told you already in another thread where you were upset.

 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
 Originally Posted By: BASAMS The Plumber
that was rex's question. are you ok?


I was just showing that I didn't dodge a question. To answer your question specifically let's put it this way, I would rather be trapped on an elevator with someone who might preach angry rhetoric every couple of years than a felon who might assasinate me. How about you?


mem, with the various topics being brought up re: obama's "sketchy" past (quotations on an as-needed basis), without getting into the specifics of who did what, and at what level, etc. wouldn't you prefer barrack just say "hey, listen, it was a few years ago. it was a lapse in judgement. i've since seen the error of my ways, and will continue trying to repair any damage caused"?

maybe he thinks he's done wrong, maybe he doesn't. but, clearly, large groups of people do. and, i think often, with some valid reasonings. as a political motive for him, or even as a "peace of mind" reasoning for you and other supporters, wouldn't that be a smarter path for his campaign to take?
 Originally Posted By: Rob Kamphausen
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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
 Originally Posted By: BASAMS The Plumber
that was rex's question. are you ok?


I was just showing that I didn't dodge a question. To answer your question specifically let's put it this way, I would rather be trapped on an elevator with someone who might preach angry rhetoric every couple of years than a felon who might assasinate me. How about you?


mem, with the various topics being brought up re: obama's "sketchy" past (quotations on an as-needed basis), without getting into the specifics of who did what, and at what level, etc. wouldn't you prefer barrack just say "hey, listen, it was a few years ago. it was a lapse in judgement. i've since seen the error of my ways, and will continue trying to repair any damage caused"?

maybe he thinks he's done wrong, maybe he doesn't. but, clearly, large groups of people do. and, i think often, with some valid reasonings. as a political motive for him, or even as a "peace of mind" reasoning for you and other supporters, wouldn't that be a smarter path for his campaign to take?


No. For starters the people that are upset were not going to vote for Obama anyway. And I don't think he needs to apolagize for sitting on a couple of charity boards with Ayers. The press investigated this & their not best buds. Obama spoke out against the things Ayers did. Unless you believe Obama secretly condones those things that should be good enough for anyone.
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
 Originally Posted By: Rob Kamphausen
....

 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
 Originally Posted By: BASAMS The Plumber
that was rex's question. are you ok?


I was just showing that I didn't dodge a question. To answer your question specifically let's put it this way, I would rather be trapped on an elevator with someone who might preach angry rhetoric every couple of years than a felon who might assasinate me. How about you?


mem, with the various topics being brought up re: obama's "sketchy" past (quotations on an as-needed basis), without getting into the specifics of who did what, and at what level, etc. wouldn't you prefer barrack just say "hey, listen, it was a few years ago. it was a lapse in judgement. i've since seen the error of my ways, and will continue trying to repair any damage caused"?

maybe he thinks he's done wrong, maybe he doesn't. but, clearly, large groups of people do. and, i think often, with some valid reasonings. as a political motive for him, or even as a "peace of mind" reasoning for you and other supporters, wouldn't that be a smarter path for his campaign to take?


No. For starters the people that are upset were not going to vote for Obama anyway. And I don't think he needs to apolagize for sitting on a couple of charity boards with Ayers. The press investigated this & their not best buds. Obama spoke out against the things Ayers did. Unless you believe Obama secretly condones those things that should be good enough for anyone.


i didn't mean just in the ayers case. obama has a few skeletons, real or otherwise. rev. wright, to name another.

still, wouldn't it be advantageous to his campaign, his credit, and his credibility to make that type of dismissal? and it doesn't have to be "an apology", per se. i'm sure someone in the political higher-ups can write one of those crafty, eloquent message that dismisses accusations, separates the claims, apologizes for "perceived" associations, and moves on. and to pre-empt the notions of "he's already done that", i would eagerly claim the opposite.

and i'm not passing judgement, just reacting to the overall situation and how it's being carried out.

i think its a disservice to yield to simple notion that public minds are already made up. surely, some have wavered in either direction, just as surely as there are those still yet undecided.

there has been a lot of time and money defending (and explaining, and comparing, etc) questionable actions, relations, and situations. i'd think making the above statement would not only show a top-level, executive-like decisive ability, but also appease current supporters and garner new ones.
 Originally Posted By: Rob Kamphausen
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i didn't mean just in the ayers case. obama has a few skeletons, real or otherwise. rev. wright, to name another.

still, wouldn't it be advantageous to his campaign, his credit, and his credibility to make that type of dismissal? and it doesn't have to be "an apology", per se. i'm sure someone in the political higher-ups can write one of those crafty, eloquent message that dismisses accusations, separates the claims, apologizes for "perceived" associations, and moves on. and to pre-empt the notions of "he's already done that", i would eagerly claim the opposite.

and i'm not passing judgement, just reacting to the overall situation and how it's being carried out.

i think its a disservice to yield to simple notion that public minds are already made up. surely, some have wavered in either direction, just as surely as there are those still yet undecided.

there has been a lot of time and money defending (and explaining, and comparing, etc) questionable actions, relations, and situations. i'd think making the above statement would not only show a top-level, executive-like decisive ability, but also appease current supporters and garner new ones.


I don't think it would help Obama get elected by bringing up Wright a couple of days before the election in any shape or form. If McCain was hammering him on it he would probably have to address it but as it is I don't see a political advantage in it.
yeah, timing-wise, i'd agree that doing so too close to the election could be a bad move. i just think it would have been a better strategy in the campaign overall.
The way I see it is that most obama supporters don't want to discuss it because they are afraid of who he's associated himself with in the past. I've brought it up with friends and family members and they say things like "its still better than four more years of bush" or "you shouldn't judge people by their friends".

Since it took obama so long to be specific about anything (how long did we hear "hope and change") to say anything of substance I think a lot of people see him as who they want to see him as. Bring up specifics to people like this and they either say they don't want to talk about it or they attack mccain with lies that have been propagated by left wing nutjobs.

I'm one of the people that have clarified things about obama. People like my sister repeatedly told me that obama was muslim. I had to show her multiple websites to prove her wrong. I don't support him in any way but I don't want lies spread about him. He's got enough things going against him, why create more?

It all comes down to something I've always believed in. I just want people to be honest. I just want obama to come out and say that he has shady friends. I want obama supporters to see his faults and acknowledge them. I simply want people to reality as it really is.
 Originally Posted By: rex
I just want people to be honest. I just want obama to come out and say that he has shady friends. I want obama supporters to see his faults and acknowledge them. I simply want people to reality as it really is.


i agree.

no one is perfect, particularly growing up or starting out. i think obama would be on a much better path if he made simple, definitive comments like "listen, i hung out with ayers, he funded this, but the more i found out, the more i disagreed" or "i realize now my relationship with rev wright that was an error in judgdment, and aim to fix anything i've wronged" etc.

fill in your own, better-phrased statements.

the point being it'd be more productive and more assuring, not to mention quicker and cheaper, to come out with that, rather than to bury and avoid and excuse and defend. like, he made a mistake (even if simply a political one) and now he's looking to adjust and improve -- which, more than likely, is exactly the case. i'd think that would resonate so much more with the public in his favor, both those that agree with him and otherwise. it'd give him a boost in the "i'm not just another politician" perspective and make him seem more genuine.
 Originally Posted By: BASAMS The Plumber
Pretty good, talked to a woman at work today who said she wasn't voting for no terrorist.


Is this the same woman that believed Obama would become President if something happened to McCain while he was in office? You should give them a book for Christmas...
Did you see G-man's Howard Stern/Obama supporters thread?


p.s. I took a HUGE Obama this morning.
Posted By: the G-man Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 6:56 PM
My mother had lunch this weekend with one of her friends who is an Obama supporter. She said that she was against McCain because he wants to tax 401ks (no, that's Obama) and wants to close all the post offices and make senior citizens get their social security over the internet.

When my mother told her friend neither was true, the lady stormed out of the restaurant.
Posted By: PJP Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 7:29 PM
so your mother now knows what it's like talking to whomod pro and MEM.
Posted By: PJP Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 7:30 PM
I sent you and duderawk a new email.
Posted By: Prometheus Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 7:32 PM
 Originally Posted By: the G-man of Zur-En-Arrh
My mother had lunch this weekend with one of her friends who is an Obama supporter. She said that she was against McCain because he wants to tax 401ks (no, that's Obama) and wants to close all the post offices and make senior citizens get their social security over the internet.

When my mother told her friend neither was true, the lady stormed out of the restaurant.


Your mother's friend must work with Basams...
Posted By: Prometheus Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 7:33 PM
 Originally Posted By: PJP
so your mother now knows what it's like talking to whomod pro and MEM.


You love to try and pick a fight, don't you?
Posted By: PJP Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 7:33 PM
Posted By: PJP Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 7:34 PM
I still haven't woken up by the way. It is grey as shit here and raining like an Obama.
 Originally Posted By: Lucius Prometheus Vorenus
 Originally Posted By: BASAMS The Plumber
Pretty good, talked to a woman at work today who said she wasn't voting for no terrorist.


Is this the same woman that believed Obama would become President if something happened to McCain while he was in office? You should give them a book for Christmas...


Nope, she was close on the terrorist, Obama is pals with a terrorist, but I didn't have time to correct her either.
Posted By: the G-man Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 9:38 PM
 Originally Posted By: Lucius Prometheus Vorenus
 Originally Posted By: PJP
so your mother now knows what it's like talking to whomod pro and MEM.




\:lol\:
Posted By: Irwin Schwab Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 9:39 PM
heh
Posted By: Prometheus Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 11:06 PM
\:lol\:

Oh you guys...you've all become so weak and easy. What's going to be the new "catch" if Obama becomes President? Will it be a running commentary on how "the new regime" is doing? Or will it just be "attack all Democrats/Libs" a.k.a. business as usual?
Posted By: the G-man Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 11:32 PM
 Originally Posted By: Lucius Prometheus Vorenus
\:lol\:

Oh you guys...you've all become so weak and easy...


Amazing. He's gone past aping whomod and is now imitating Wank and Cry.
Posted By: PJP Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 11:54 PM
I for one will be calling my feces Obama from now on. I can't speak for G and the dude.
Posted By: Irwin Schwab Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-28 11:59 PM
I'm calling the toilet Trinity Church.....
Posted By: PJP Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-29 12:00 AM
 Originally Posted By: BASAMS The Plumber
I'm calling the toilet Trinity Church.....
\:lol\:
Posted By: Irwin Schwab Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-29 12:03 AM
my chicken salad just came home to roost....
Posted By: Captain Sammitch Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-10-29 4:57 AM
\:lol\:
Posted By: PJP Re: Reverend Wright Commercials - 2008-11-01 3:40 AM
I met 2 people today who didn't know who rev. wright was. These ads should help let the undecideds know who Obama's spiritual adviser was. They raised 7 1/2 miilion since I first posted this. They are going to saturate the airwaves this weekend during football games and 60 minutes. Then smash tvs all day Monday Monday night and Tuesday morning.


All this will take place in the US of KKKA.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1101192.html

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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Sunday he had been "surprised" by a recent U.S. demand that Israel halt a construction project in a Palestinian neighborhood in East Jerusalem.

"I was surprised by the U.S. move," the premier told his advisors. "In my conversation with [U.S. President Barack] Obama in Washington, I told him that I could not accept any limitations on our sovereignty in Jerusalem. I told him Jerusalem is not a settlement, and it has nothing to do with discussions on a freeze."


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etanyahu's comments came after both Israel Radio and Army Radio reported that the U.S. State Department summoned Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren over the weekend to advise him that the project, developed by American millionaire Irving Moskowitz, should not go ahead.

As of Sunday evening, the bureau has not received a response from U.S. officials to the report.

"I won't cave in on this matter," Netanyahu pledged Sunday during consultations at his bureau.

The prime minister added: "During my previous tenure I built thousands of housing units in the [East] Jerusalem neighborhood of Har Homa, and I went against the world. Therefore, it is clear that in the present situation I will not cave in, all the more so since this is a matter of 20 housing units only."

Netanyahu: Israel rule over Jerusalem not up for discussion

Earlier Sunday, Netanyahu said Israel's sovereignty over Jerusalem was not a matter up for discussion.

Netanyahu told ministers at the weekly cabinet meeting that Jerusalem is the united capital of Israel and that all citizens are allowed to purchase property in any part of the city they choose.

"Imagine what would happen if someone were to suggest Jews could not live in or purchase [property] in certain neighborhoods in London, New York, Paris or Rome," he said.

"The international community would certainly raise protest. Likewise, we cannot accept such a ruling on East Jerusalem," Netanyahu told ministers.

This is the policy of an open city, he said, and Israel would not accept a stance that counters that civil right.

"Israeli Arabs are not forbidden from buying houses in west Jerusalem and Jews must be granted the same right in the eastern part of the city," he added.

Netanyahu said that he had made this stance clear to U.S. President Barack Obama, declaring that the issue of construction in Jerusalem could not be linked to the discussion on settlements.

Palestinian chief negotiator Saeb Erekat denounced the Israeli response, saying Netanyahu understands that a peace agreement is impossible unless East Jerusalem is deemed the Palestinian capital.

Peace and settlement activity are diverging paths that can never meet, he said.

Speaking Sunday in New Delhi, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said the administration was trying to reach an agreement with the Israelis on settlements. "The negotiations are intense. They are ongoing," she said.

'U.S. tells Israel to halt East Jerusalem building'

Moskowitz, an influential supporter of Israeli settlement in East Jerusalem, purchased the Shepherd Hotel in 1985 and plans to tear it down and build housing units in its place. The hotel is located near a government compound that includes several government ministries and the national police headquarters.

The approval, granted by the Jerusalem municipality earlier this month, allows for the construction of 20 apartments plus a three-level underground parking lot.

In response, Oren told the State Department that Israeli construction in East Jerusalem was no different than in any other part of the country.

Jerusalem could not be considered along the same lines as settlements, he said, adding that Israel would not accede to this demand.

The Jerusalem municipality issued a statement following the report, saying the purchase was legal and it had acted with full transparency in granting building permits.

A spokesman for the U.S. Embassy had no immediate comment.

PA fears U.S. will let Israel keep up settlement construction

Meanwhile, Palestinian officials said on Saturday they were worried the U.S. administration was close to an interim agreement with Israel on settlement construction.

According to information that has reached the Palestinian Authority, Israel will not completely halt construction in the settlements but will limit it drastically to the point of almost stopping it. In exchange, Arab countries will implement previously discussed concessions - among them, allowing Israeli planes to cross their airspace and opening diplomatic missions.

The PA will discuss this with U.S. special Middle East envoy George Mitchell in Ramallah this week.

Sources in the PA said that "half-solutions" are unacceptable and that Israel must completely stop construction in the settlements.

The Palestinian daily Al-Ayyam reported on Saturday that Mitchell is to inform PA President Mahmoud Abbas by phone that the U.S. administration has been unable to obtain Israel's consent to stop construction completely.

Senior Palestinian officials have been following ambiguous statements made by Clinton, who has hinted that an agreement with Israel is in the offing.

Senior officials say American assent to even limited Israeli construction in the settlements would once again damage the American position as an honest broker in the Middle East. U.S. President Barack Obama told American Jewish leaders last week that his clear position against settlements has strengthened his position as an honest broker with the Arabs.

Over the past few days, Abbas has reiterated concerns over continued construction in the settlements, saying he would not renew negotiations with Israel as long as such construction persisted. However, senior Palestinian officials said that soon after the Obama administration reaches an agreement with Israel and the Arab countries, it intends to renew negotiations on a final status agreement. If the PA refuses to join, as Abbas apparently articulated, it will appear to be obstructing the peace process.

In any case, the PA will probably seek to postpone talks until after the Sixth Fatah Congress and general elections, scheduled for August 4. Sources in the PA said talks between Hamas and Fatah, which were to resume between July 25-28, would probably be postponed until after the Fatah Congress opens in Bethlehem.
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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Sunday he had been "surprised" by a recent U.S. demand that Israel halt a construction project in a Palestinian neighborhood in East Jerusalem.

"I was surprised by the U.S. move," the premier told his advisors. "In my conversation with [U.S. President Barack] Obama in Washington, I told him that I could not accept any limitations on our sovereignty in Jerusalem. I told him Jerusalem is not a settlement, and it has nothing to do with discussions on a freeze."

"Imagine what would happen if someone were to suggest Jews could not live in or purchase [property] in certain neighborhoods in London, New York, Paris or Rome," he said.

"The international community would certainly raise protest. Likewise, we cannot accept such a ruling on East Jerusalem," Netanyahu told ministers.

This is the policy of an open city, he said, and Israel would not accept a stance that counters that civil right.

"Israeli Arabs are not forbidden from buying houses in west Jerusalem and Jews must be granted the same right in the eastern part of the city," he added.


I hope all those who thought bringing attention to the teachings of Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Obama's 20 year attendance to those anti-Semitic teachings now see what the significance was/is. Obama obviously believes Jews don't have the same rights as their Arab counterparts, this is why such a big deal was made of his worshiping at a anti-Semitic church.
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