It seems to not be such a big deal if it's a famous republican like Gordon Liddy.

I'm not aware of any Republicans who think assassinating Liddy is okay.

This is really the wrong board to ask, I think there are only two Republicans here.

It's a tough question for you G-man since Liddy is your icon so it's ok that you have to lash out at me.

However for the saner conservatives on this board, how about it?

Tell you what: I'll take your questions seriously when they aren't based on a false premise.

You're trying to compare an appearance on a radio show to a long-term friendship and mentoring relationship.

Clearly there is no comparison. And, if there was, then you have to explain why you think you can taint McCain with Liddy and not, for example, Democrats (including Obama) with Imus.

Furthermore, you also have to explain why you haven't attacked Al Franken, since he is, in fact, a good friend of Liddy's despite their political differences.

I'm not doing pages of posts decrying McCain's friendship with Liddy G-man. Comparisons aside though, can't you admit that plotting to kill, kidnap & firebomb your fellow Americans is a bad thing?

Oopsie:

• Despite their political differences, Liddy and Al Franken are friends. Franken has been on Liddy's radio show multiple times. Liddy shares a similar friendship with noted feminist Camille Paglia, who has also appeared several times on his show. Liddy is friends with yet another well-known Democratic operative: Lanny Davis. A lawyer, a friend of the Clintons, and an outspoken supporter of President Bill Clinton during his second term, Davis has been on Liddy's radio show numerous times, and for many years, when Davis appeared on Liddy's show, he would be boasted as "The liberal's liberal" and "Defending the Indefensible – The Clinton Presidency", and would have a special spiel played

You are such a hypocritical sack of shit.

In McCain's defense I'm sure he wasn't thinking about all the plots to kill, kidnap & firebomb Liddy wrote about in his bio.

Oopsie:

• Despite their political differences, Liddy and Al Franken are friends. Franken has been on Liddy's radio show multiple times. Liddy shares a similar friendship with noted feminist Camille Paglia, who has also appeared several times on his show. Liddy is friends with yet another well-known Democratic operative: Lanny Davis. A lawyer, a friend of the Clintons, and an outspoken supporter of President Bill Clinton during his second term, Davis has been on Liddy's radio show numerous times, and for many years, when Davis appeared on Liddy's show, he would be boasted as "The liberal's liberal" and "Defending the Indefensible – The Clinton Presidency", and would have a special spiel played

You are such a hypocritical sack of shit.

retard thread

Oh I see you decided to edit your post, probably a good idea since your original post was in pretty bad taste...

You're the one who first posited that Liddy would get in an elevator and try to assassinate you, remember? My response was based on that.

Why edit it & then repost it as if it was unedited then?

Apparently too hard of a moral question for you, eh rexy?

No, its just two people arguing about shit that doesn't really matter. Both of you are the same, just different politics.

That could apply to almost every political thread on the board. Nice try about the bit about us being the same but I can criticise Obama & praise McCain. You & G-man seem to be on the same page when it comes to political rhetoric

That means you don't read anything I post. I'm as politically different from him as I am you. Like I tell everyone else, stop taking him seriously. He is just here to argue.

This presidential election you guys seem to be working the same political talking points. What's wrong with being here to argue btw? Isn't that what political forums are for.

That just proves my point, again.

Aren't you used to it by now? Whenever you confront him with any facts that might prick his little bubble of reality, he loses that thin facade of "fairness" and "intellect" and just lashes out like the bitter, angry old man he's become. Has he tried to convince you he's not a Republican yet? That old chestnut is hilarious. And btw, congrats on breaking him...

Sounds good, then. Ayers and Liddy, both political activists. Thanks for clarifying that for me...

Well this has nothing to do with McCain but since this thread isn't specifically about McCain and terrorists, rather about Republicans and terrorists, let's not forget that George HW Bush pardoned unrepentant terrorist Orlando Bosch who conspired in the bombing of a Cubana airliner in 1976, killing all passengers and crew.



Bosch at the time of his pardon had been serving a prison sentence for a bazooka attack on a Polish freighter in Miami harbor, was freed as the result of a campaign launched by Jeb Bush.

I guess terrorism is OK for Republicans when it's done under the auspices of the CIA.

If it was a CIA attack then it wasn't a terrorist attack.

Typical whomod, attacking his own government as terrorists while defending cop killers.

why does he hate his country?

Are we talking about whomod, Ayers, Wright or Obama now?

So you're calling Attorney General Dick Thornburgh an "America-hater"?

BTW, this whole "America-hater" bullshit doesn't reflect well on you guys or the gOp. After all, things didn't exactly end well for Joe McCarthy when he tried it last time.

but then, bsams and G-Man have no decency at all.

But, in the end, history proved him right. The communists were trying to infiltrate the US government....kind of like this election.

The investigations of that Red Scare era did yield some disloyal citizens. It is now largely accepted, for instance, that Julius Rosenberg was a Soviet spy. But the revelations of genuine threats to national security were small next to the damage done by the Red-baiters. McCarthy and his colleagues smeared high officials and low-level government workers, dentists, teachers, writers, actors, lawyers, college presidents. They cowed others into silence with the threat of public pillory. In the words of the Supreme Court, they engaged not in legitimate inquiry but in the exercise of intimidation, yielding to the desire to " expose for the sake of exposure.”

...kind of like what the Obamatarians are doing to people like Joe the Plumber now?

If you hate this country so much, why don't you leave?

Leave? At his moment of triumph?



whomod is eagerly awaiting the Obama rapture under which America as we know it ceases to exist.

Why should I leave?

This is MY country and I am an American citizen after all.

Why don't you leave?

I thought we were all part of the HIVEMIND!!!!!!

Have you finally started listening to us? Did little whomod finally have a moment of self growth? Do you think one day he will be able to think for himself?







































I'm not gonna get my hopes up for the last one.

Obviously it's not. Your definition of it is so erroneous that I imagine you think you're in an entirely different country than where you really are.

Lest we forget when you said that this country belongs to Mexico. You're either delusional or a separatist. Either way, it's reason enough for you to leave.

leave?

Fuck you. I go where i want. And you are NO ONE to tell me anything.

As for this country belongs to Mexico" I don't believe that so I'm pretty sure I didn't say that. I do however believe that people of Mexican origin were here first and therefore have more claim to live and remain in the southwest than anglo Saxons who only just recently inhabited, ethnically cleansed and then tried to act as if this land was theirs all along.

The fact that people of Mexican origin are returning to land that they've inhabited for hundreds if not thousands of years shouldn't be surprising. You're just trying to conflate people with Governments in order to get me to say I think Mexico (the Government and country) OWNS the southwest..

Which is my point, you think you're in Mexican territory. And since it's sponsored by America, you feel you're having your cake and eating it to; living in Mexico without having to endure its social destructiveness.



Anyone can tell you the truth. Of course, that doesn't mean you're smart enough to listen to it.



Exactly. As a person of Mexican descent, you feel this land belongs to you and that Americans have no right to do what they want with it even though it was obtained from Mexico more than a century ago. Because of this, you feel justified in your separatist notions.

BTW: You left out the Asians, the blacks, the mid-Eastern immigrants, etc. living here. 'Not just "Anglos" Whomod.

Not to mention you left out the fact that the Mexicans slaughtered and enslaved Native Americans. Also, one has to wonder whether or not you're descended from Spaniards. By your own logic, that would put you in the same category of those Anglos you hate so much.

I don't have any problem with America or the staus quo in the southwest. You however do. I'm pretty happy with the state of the southwest and L.A. and all it's diversity, white, black, Latino, Asian Indian, Armenian, middle eastern, etc. etc. You however are not.

So why don't you quit with the fake outrage over me and admit that you think you're being overrun. Which is why i take the position i do. No one is being overrun. In fact my big problem with Latinos is that they're not branching out of So.Cal faster. The entire southwest is up for grabs and it's within the Democratic Party's reach if only more latinos spread out over Nevada, Arizona and the rest of the southwest.

That is not a call for "separatism" that is a call to participatory Democracy.

I think your pants just caught on fire.

The Latinos are have more in common with the GOP and the GOP needs to wake up and see this asap. Latinos are hard workers and aren't like other groups that vote dem and are lazy like blacks and unions. Latinos are christian and hard workers that want to keep their own money and are for less taxes. The GOP should be courting the shit out of them. If that ever happened the dems would be nothing more than fringe party after that......but hey you still have the blacks.

Actually you do. You just pointed out how much you resent the "Anglos."



Are you talking about your own definition of the status quo or inferring my own interpretation of the status quo?




Obviously you're not since you just pointed out how the "Anglos" (Caucasian, Asians, blacks, etc.) allegedly took your land from your ascendants--BTW, your ancestors, were they Aztec or Spaniards?



I'm not being overrun, but it's still pretty fucking hard to get a job in the labor sector and my taxes (medical, property, car, school, etc.) are skyrocketing. My money is being contributed to the welfare of trespassers and its crippling my ability to finish my schooling and juggle three minimum wage jobs (I could just be working one higher paying labor job, but like I said, it's too difficult to get one). How exactly is it fair to people who are actual citizens when inflation is being exacerbated by millions of illegals or even an overdose of legal immigrants who're being let in too fast due to pressure from minority organizations?



You're attributing an elitist attitude to your encouragement of people from certain ethnicities to vote against others. That's separatism.

maybe you should move to where the work is and lower cost of living. do you feel it's the govt's role to ensure you have work?

wow, so blacks are lazy?

you racist bitch!

out of the mouths of insurgents!

No. I feel it's the government's role to insure it keeps non-citizens out of the country.

Sweetums.

umm, you said it.

Thank You!

oh i didn't realize you were against free markets and the right of business to hire whom they choose.

That's a rather asinine thing to say darling. America runs a free market in the pursuit of benefiting America's citizens. A business has the right to hire any American it wants, but hiring an illegal alien contradicts the stability of the economy--Especially when they send the money they earn outside of the country; money we'll never get back.

I don't see anything about laissez faire Capitalism that stipulates supporting the entire world. How can it serve the country if it doesn't implement the country's work force? For that matter, how can it survive without it when it implements a foreign work force?

I want a non-regulated free market that remains an asset to the country it operates within. Just because I think all these business laws are bullshit, that doesn't mean I want business to violate the federal ones. Hiring illegal aliens would make them accessories to illegal entry.

why can't those two just work things out and get along like they used to

Because pariah would be happy. He's too angsty for that.

it's exactly like sam and diane.

Norm!

normbama!

its a dog-eat-dog world, and i'm sharing-the-wealth with dogbone underwear

omg, if this is your idea of "free market", i'd hate to see what you feel is regulated.

gee, this freedom certainly has lots of stipulations.

oh, i see, you're a nationalist. only americans should have decent wages and jobs.

weird, i didn't know that i suggested supporting the entire world. i just want ppl to hire whomever they want to work for them without govt intervention dictating who they can and cannot hire.

so the complete opposite of what we currently have? non-regulated = hiring anyone you want.

umm, what happened to the to all the 'non-regulation' you were all gung ho for? so you want non-regulation but with some regulation.

Now dear, I imagine that you're also confused on how this country can be a republic when it implements so much democracy from state to state.

But we are approaching a totally regulated market. That much is true.



I'm sorry honey, I didn't realize that affording citizens the ability to have job security was a stipulation. I always thought it was, you know, a given that a country would support its own inhabitants and put them first.



Yes. I don't know why you find that so shocking darling. If you're in America and you want to contribute or take away from the economy respectively, you need to be a citizen. Just as if you were in Mexico and you want to contribute or take away from the economy respectively, you need to be a citizen. Just as if you were in Canada and you want to contribute or take away from the economy respectively, you need to be a citizen. Just as if you were in England and you want to contribute or take away from the economy respectively, you need to be a citizen. Getting the picture yet babe?





You seem to be against the idea that America constrict the amount of non-Americans working jobs that are based in the American economy sweetie. You don't seem to have a problem that anyone comes here illegally and takes the jobs here.



Sorry doll. You're wrong. Non-regulated = companies maintaining marketing policies that are not controlled by government charters and institutions.

But hey, I can totally appreciate (not really) how you ignored where I pointed out that the companies would be making themselves accessory to illegal entry. I guess that means you think "non-regulated" companies would be allowed to get away with murder, embezzlement, etc..



Over extrapolating the meaning of "non-regulated business" isn't going to help you win the argument sugar. It's not even satirically sound since every citizen of the united states has always been susceptible to prosecution for committing crimes that have nothing to do with the FTC.

The state still penalizes companies for infractions even if it doesn't go after them the for Anti-trust issues. Like for instance, the company was involved in money laundering. That's not an Anti-trust violation, but it is against the law for anyone to do.

This was whomods last post. Its been two days. I guess his pants really did catch on fire.

the polls have tightened. he has been shooting his mouth off something fierce....so he will look like a jackass if Hussein loses.

"will look"?

he may have died during his autoasphyxiated masturbation session during the Obamercial last night....

It's just funny seeing you guys go after Whomod for being obsessed when if your not doing that your doing the same thing you accuse him of doing.

talk about obsessive.

When did I ever call whomod obsessed? I've called him lots of things but never obsessed.

i believe i called him a fanboy, a zealot, and a nutball. all with with "political" prefix.

I may have missed it but I don't think one McCain supporter expressed any judgement towards Liddy & his plots to kill, kidnap & firebomb his fellow Americans. Was it too tough of a moral quandry?

Wow. BSAMS is really getting to you over your hypocrisy over in the Obama thread, isn't he?