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Shouldn't he be able to flap his arms fast enough or control the vibrations in his body to affect the gravitational pull on it? Then again, shouldn't he just start to take off ANYWAY as he picks up enough speed?

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Flapping one's arms to fly is not super-heroic.


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No. His body is not the appropriate shape for the effect of LIFT to take effect. And shaking his arms really fast has no effect on gravity.


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because it would be uncomfortable.
Also his vortex powers need something more than air to push off of. So, at best he could hover a few feet off the ground.


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Plus, it just looks silly.


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I know how to fly!

But I never learned how to land.......don't need to!

*laughing maniacly*


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I know how to fly!

But I never learned how to land.......don't need to!

*laughing maniacly*




Wow.... that's just........ bad.

Horribly bad.


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
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Maybe I'll get my own sitcom on UPN.


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and I would be a house guest at the castle owned by Sheik al - Jafarra.


and instead of a ferarri I would drive a red camel of course.


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Shouldn't he be able to flap his arms fast enough or control the vibrations in his body to affect the gravitational pull on it? Then again, shouldn't he just start to take off ANYWAY as he picks up enough speed?




No, because that would make him even gayer than he already is.


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No. His body is not the appropriate shape for the effect of LIFT to take effect.



Doesn't every object, no matter its shape, have an escape velocity? Maybe I'm wrong.

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And shaking his arms really fast has no effect on gravity.



Coo'. What about vibrating his entire body?

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Why can't the Flash fly??




Because he has legs. Scientifically your body would not be able to reach the independantly required height/velocity when you counter in the equational differentiates that your legs add to prolonged atmospheric exposure...





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What if someone had chicken legs?

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Chicken legs would theoretically allow for the atmospheric anomalies that occur while in mid flight. Chicken legs would not stand much of a hypo-glyseemic chance when you factor in the atmospheric gasses though, the lack of flesh would most likely result in horrific burns leading to unrepensive ampuations


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No. His body is not the appropriate shape for the effect of LIFT to take effect.



Doesn't every object, no matter its shape, have an escape velocity? Maybe I'm wrong.




No, you're correct. If the Flash obeyed the laws of physics he should've run himself off the world long ago. The force of gravity is much too weak to keep him on Earth at very high velocity.

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I have that problem with my penis. It is so light and feathery almost to the point of non-existence that sometimes it tries to fly away on me.

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Chicken legs would theoretically allow for the atmospheric anomalies that occur while in mid flight. Chicken legs would not stand much of a hypo-glyseemic chance




what the hell does his sugar level have to do with this?


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No. His body is not the appropriate shape for the effect of LIFT to take effect.



Doesn't every object, no matter its shape, have an escape velocity? Maybe I'm wrong.




No, you're correct. If the Flash obeyed the laws of physics he should've run himself off the world long ago. The force of gravity is much too weak to keep him on Earth at very high velocity.




Lets not forgte that the phenomena equated in to the disreputive use of the essence known only as "The Speed Force", would most definately have disentigrated his fleshy goodness when reaching light speeds

Super-speed is undoubtebly the most un-scientifc and propostulating super-power


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Chicken legs would theoretically allow for the atmospheric anomalies that occur while in mid flight. Chicken legs would not stand much of a hypo-glyseemic chance




what the hell does his sugar level have to do with this?




Hypo-glysemieptica is a term often use in scientific circles among the elite practicioners of the trade, not the commonly used adverb referring to ones direct sugar intake over an unspecified collection of time, which most un-practicioner folk tend to profoundly enthulate with


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Tell that to Hans and Lucas when I fuck them up the ass in super speed. It's not so preposterous to them.

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There was a Superman story, back in the mid-'60s, which dealt with this idea. Superman viewed various scenarios in which Jor-El had sent him to planets other than Earth, and on one planet he had lost his powers due to a red sun or Gold Kryptonite, or something, and his chemist-father invented a super-speed serum, enabling Kal-El to become the Flash of that world. Only problem was that, when he reached escape velocity he flung himself off the face of the Earth and was lost in space forever.

This is one of the reasons Mark Waid created the Speed Force -- basically whenever the Flash does something that breaks the laws of physics or otherwise does not follow the laws of physics, all the Flash fans can say "Speed Force" as the explanation, which means about as much as saying "Magic" or "God's will" or something like that. Or, like that episode of the Simpsons which guest-starred Lucy Lawless, in which the explanation for any discrepancy was that "A wizard did that".

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Tell that to Hans and Lucas when I fuck them up the ass in super speed. It's not so preposterous to them.




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I didn't understand a smurfin' word you just smurfed.


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I didn't understand a smurfin' word you just smurfed.




Villainous blue devils such as thee would not understand the fabled words of the propotunanting pixies worshipped on thy throne of Bethlehem


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Yeah Papa Smurf. Take that you villainous blue devil.

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Yeah Papa Smurf. Take that you villainous blue devil.




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In the old "Challenge of the Superfriends" cartoon, the Flash could run on the air and, thusly, fly. He could also run around the Earth so fast that he could go back in time... just like Captain Kirk!

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Captain Kirk used the slingshot effect around the sun. You're thinking of Superman.

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Yeah Papa Smurf. Take that you villainous blue devil.




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Hey, PJP! It sounds like he just said "Yo mamma wears trash bags!" Are you gonna let that slide???


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Can we get back to the Flash's (in)ability to fly, here? The fate of the world...nay, the universe!...depends on the answer.

Thanx in advance.

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Why can't the Flash fly??




Because he doesn't use maxi pads with wings.


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Or drink red bull.


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It gives you wing-ers.

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so, does he actually speeds up, or does the world slow down around him? because that could be viable explanation, utterly unrealistic, but still another alternative




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Why can't the Flash fly??




Because if he could he'd just be another lame hero and people would lose interest in him. Running super-fast is unique, atleast compared to the amount of people who fly in comics. He could probably jump up to briefly participate in mid-air battles though, i have no scientific proof of this, i just think running super-fast would give you enough velocity to jump up really high. If he built up enough speed i imagine he could leap into the air like a torpedo and make it look like he was flying


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so, does he actually speeds up, or does the world slow down around him? because that could be viable explanation, utterly unrealistic, but still another alternative



No. Flash speeds up, the new Professor Zoom slows everything else down.

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In the old "Challenge of the Superfriends" cartoon, the Flash could run on the air and, thusly, fly. He could also run around the Earth so fast that he could go back in time... just like Captain Kirk!




You call yourself a GenX'er?!!



The Superfriends is constantly riddled with mistakes, most of which I don't mind. Batman's lips may move while Wonder Woman talks, or Aquaman's hair may change colors for a short time, but these are simple technical errors. The Flash flew directly towards the screen. This error could not be caused by poor editing or rushed animation. He didn't run in the sky, and it wasn't Green Lantern miscolored with a red outfit. No, the Flash put his hands forward and legs together and without even an "up up and away" he had taken flight. It wasn't even a one-time mistake. In another show, the Flash flies to the top of the Brooklyn Bridge, grabs the cables and soars over to tie up a toppling skyscraper. Sure, this foiled Captain Cold's evil plan, but the Flash could have just run up the bridge.

Aquaman can fly though!


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There were times in the New Teen Titans where Wally sorta swirled his hands in a circular motion after jumping off a building & floated down to the ground, not exactly flying though.


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Considering the kinds of speeds he can reach, you'd think he would be able to do the same to fly.

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I'm almost thinking the aura around his body also plays a factor in his inability to fly. When he runs, an aura is created to reduce friction. In one story this worked against him when on a plane, a stewardess was sucked out of the plane. Flash went after her and could only reach her by streamlining his body to spped up his fall, however it shot him like a bullet past the lady because of the frictionless aura around his body. He had to do his best chicken impression and flap his arms to reach her. Then all he could do is pump his legs in a running motion to slow their descent to the ground. Of course this was at a time where his speed was more limited than it is now.



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