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Parent Wants "Huck Finn" Pulled from ClassesA book being used in an American Literature class has a student and his mother so offended that the mother has threatened to file a civil-rights complaint.
The mother, Dolores Fisher, alleges racial mistreatment, the segregation of her son and the use of a racial slur in the classroom.
The book at the center of the controversy is Mark Twain's "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn."
The Peoria Unified School District is working with Fisher to resolve the issue surrounding the book, but Fisher feels that the current procedures in place need to be improved.
"The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" is required reading at Cactus High School.
But it soon became a troubled tale when Fisher's 15-year-old son brought it home and said he wasn't comfortable reading it in class.
"I read it and I was in shock," she said. "When I went to high school in New York, I actually didn't have to read it because it was taken off shelves."
Fisher's upset with the derogatory word that appears more than 400 times in the book.
Fisher feels the teacher should have offered an abridged version of the text or another book altogether. But the teacher didn't, so Fisher feels she only had one option: For her son to choose an alternative reading assignment, which meant he had to be separated from his class.
Even though other parents feel it's a parent's right, they don't take offense to the book.
"It's a very good book by a very famous author," said parent Carl Stacey. "I think it has some good virtues in it. I don't see anything wrong with it at all." Yes, because it isn't like people in Twain's time actually talked that way or anything. 
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What's this kid and his mom going on about?? Everybody has to read that book in school. It's a classic.
Reading it is like going back in time over a hundred years ago.
Yeah, things were different back then. Get over it!
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How would you feel if the word was "faggot" and the word was directed at a homosexual male in the story?
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I've seen that word so much, I'm almost numb to it, Lothar.
It only hurts if a bunch of the neighborhood kids call me that as they throw stuff at me.
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I'm worried that the parents and schools will go SO overboard being PC, that someday, MOST of the classics will be banned from schools.
If not all of them!
"I offer you a Vulcan prayer, Mr Suder. May your death bring you the peace you never found in life." - Tuvok.
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Hitler and the Nazis did that...they did it in 1984. We are slowly becoming fascist.
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PIG IRON, I am worried that you are right! 
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How would you feel if the word was "faggot" and the word was directed at a homosexual male in the story?
Nothing.
A faggot is a bundle of sticks or twigs.
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It only hurts if a bunch of the neighborhood kids call me that as they throw stuff at me.
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Rex, you type good for a guy just using ONE hand! 
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It only hurts if a bunch of the neighborhood kids call me that as they throw stuff at me.
i'm sorry, but this actually made me laugh too.
but thats only because i am an enormous scumbag.
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I'm worried that the parents and schools will go SO overboard being PC, that someday, MOST of the classics will be banned from schools.
If not all of them!
i agree with you here, but...
didn't you want to have the n-bomb dropped from all spoken verbage in the kramer thread?
i think a better solution wuold be to not only continue to allow the book and let it provide whatever literary educational benefits it can, but to begin a dialog on the era, the vernacular of the time, and the varied weight of the n-bomb, itself.
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I'm worried that the parents and schools will go SO overboard being PC, that someday, MOST of the classics will be banned from schools.
If not all of them!
i agree with you here, but...
didn't you want to have the n-bomb dropped from all spoken verbage in the kramer thread?
i think a better solution wuold be to not only continue to allow the book and let it provide whatever literary educational benefits it can, but to begin a dialog on the era, the vernacular of the time, and the varied weight of the n-bomb, itself.
That makes too much sense Rob. More importantly has the lady ever read huck finn?
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It only hurts if a bunch of the neighborhood kids call me that as they throw stuff at me.
i'm sorry, but this actually made me laugh too.
but thats only because i am an enormous scumbag.
it wasn't funny at the time but I guess I see where it reads as funny!
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I'm worried that the parents and schools will go SO overboard being PC, that someday, MOST of the classics will be banned from schools.
If not all of them!
i agree with you here, but...
didn't you want to have the n-bomb dropped from all spoken verbage in the kramer thread?
i think a better solution wuold be to not only continue to allow the book and let it provide whatever literary educational benefits it can, but to begin a dialog on the era, the vernacular of the time, and the varied weight of the n-bomb, itself.
This idea of yours has merit.
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Beardguy57 said:
I'm worried that the parents and schools will go SO overboard being PC, that someday, MOST of the classics will be banned from schools.
If not all of them!
i agree with you here, but...
didn't you want to have the n-bomb dropped from all spoken verbage in the kramer thread?
i think a better solution wuold be to not only continue to allow the book and let it provide whatever literary educational benefits it can, but to begin a dialog on the era, the vernacular of the time, and the varied weight of the n-bomb, itself.
I am having a problem; I want to write a story about prejudice but I can't get myself to use the N word.. it is meant to show how terrible prejudice is....
Some black friends of mine have said that if it is written in that context, it would be okay, but I feel badly about just the thought of using such a word.
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Beardguy57 said:
I'm worried that the parents and schools will go SO overboard being PC, that someday, MOST of the classics will be banned from schools.
If not all of them!
i agree with you here, but...
didn't you want to have the n-bomb dropped from all spoken verbage in the kramer thread?
i think a better solution wuold be to not only continue to allow the book and let it provide whatever literary educational benefits it can, but to begin a dialog on the era, the vernacular of the time, and the varied weight of the n-bomb, itself.
Silly Rob. That would involve teachers doing their jobs and for parents to not be so reactionary while simultaneously allowing schools, media, and anything else besides them to raise their rugrats. You're such a dreamer...
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I'm worried that the parents and schools will go SO overboard being PC, that someday, MOST of the classics will be banned from schools.
If not all of them!
i agree with you here, but...
didn't you want to have the n-bomb dropped from all spoken verbage in the kramer thread?
i think a better solution wuold be to not only continue to allow the book and let it provide whatever literary educational benefits it can, but to begin a dialog on the era, the vernacular of the time, and the varied weight of the n-bomb, itself.
Agreed. Sweeping it under the rug is no solution.
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I'm worried that the parents and schools will go SO overboard being PC, that someday, MOST of the classics will be banned from schools.
If not all of them!
i agree with you here, but...
didn't you want to have the n-bomb dropped from all spoken verbage in the kramer thread?
i think a better solution wuold be to not only continue to allow the book and let it provide whatever literary educational benefits it can, but to begin a dialog on the era, the vernacular of the time, and the varied weight of the n-bomb, itself.
Silly Rob. That would involve teachers doing their jobs and for parents to not be so reactionary while simultaneously allowing schools, media, and anything else besides them to raise their rugrats. You're such a dreamer...
You mean choosing which schools and television shows to entrust with their children isn't adequately involved parenting? 
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