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#777021 2007-02-01 7:15 AM
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Ok, I guess we might as well start a talk thread for this story. Everyone and anyone is welcome to join in, just write yourself in.

Euro, I continued from your post with the faux Forrest and his "master" and moved it forward to reveal whatever he is, that he is not from earth. And added that he might have a connection to Hero's father. Though it could be a fun tie in.

I didn't resolve the Jason Thomas thing, but gave us some room to breath and play with. We have a very very loose direction so far in the story, but a lot has happened to the characters that we can play with.

1) Quinn is grieving over the loss of his fiancé. I don't want this just discarded, Quinn should be more on edge and looking for someone to blame. I think he blames his heroics for her death, what do you think?

2) The murder of Doug's friends was never brought to justice. He is safe for now, but nothing was resolved there, and that was three months ago. I think he'd be down staying underground, just to avoid anyone else dying.

3) The team is slightly on the run. From the cops? From the now dead fake General Forrest? I think the chief of police might even be caring enough towards the team to make a public statement that they are not terrorists.

4) Hero is still in a coma, with an alien being wanting him dead, that he may or may not have ties to.

5) Somewhere there is a plant girl? I think... Chewy?


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First of all, NICE to see you back.

Is this the real story of Jason Thomas, or is what he wants to reveal to the MBL? When I re-introduced him, I was thinking about the Jason Thomas of HR 3 (I was in an Infinite Crisis craze, by then).

1)Quinn's grieving is something to explore, I am cool with him blaming himself.

2)The murder of Doug's friend could be behind this story. I had ideas that by now I have forgot , I will thnik about the story.

3) The team on the run, for me, was something to resolve before the end of the story. My general feel for the setting is that Thunder police is allied with the MBL, while the military branch that Forrest's lead is adverse to the team.

4) There is a lot about Hero to be revealed...

5) Chewy? Chewy? Where are you?

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Ah, I like the Jenkins apparition, although a little too deus-ex-machina. He seems the Flash from Kingdom Come. I'd say he is the coolest character of this team.

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Euro, you didn't have to have the characters vocal all of the the things we wrote in this thread in one post, they all sounded like babies :-p But I have it covered in my next post mate, wait until you see how whiny they are gonna get as I reveal two new villains.


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Well, I didn't have for us, but hoping some new blood would join us in the story, after so much time I though it was better to have a jumping point.


How does it sound as an excuse?

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What happened to the old threads? The pages only go back to late 2006. Anyone have them saved?

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I have saved everything related to MBL/Vanguard. I have also some things I have partecipated into, like the aborted mirror universe...

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all the old threads are still there. just go down to the window on the bottom left of the screen and change the setting from "active in the last six months" to "from all dates".

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Whew! That's a relief. Thanks Grimm!

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I have continued the story.

Continue it however you wish. All I've done is resolve the fight scene somewhat and expand on the Mayan connection that was mentioned when the team first entered the underground chamber, although I've got NO PLANS on what will happen next (the best way to continue a collaborative story, as far as I'm concerned). I'm interested in seeing what the next poster does with what I've written so far...

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TTT, awesome post!

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Quinn shrugged. “If he begins to stir, just knock him out again.”


LOL!

Great twist with the city under the city, I'm looking forward to continuing off this. \:\)


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Thanks, Gooz! I'm looking forward to the next installment, whoever posts it.

And Chewy, if you're reading this, do you have any plans on bringing in your plant-based character from issue #1? If not, I have an idea on how to bring her into the story... Would that be cool with you?

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I posted a small thing to return to the starting plot of the kidnapped... kids.

And let something about the past of Hero to slip off....

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I'm glad to see this continuing. I've got a post coming up soon, but don't let that stop anyone else from writing something, as I haven't written mine yet.

Gooz, have you got set plans for the two new MBL enemies you introduced, or can I invent a reason for their existence?

I hope someone picks up on the weird alien/Mayan underground city thread soon. I'm interested in seeing where one of you goes with it. ;\)

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I will, I will. In a few days...

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I hope my latest post doesn't step on anyone's toes. I had an inspiration to name the New MBL's two attackers and continue the unresolved plot that began last issue, but in a new direction, also explaining who was behind the Thunder Museum "terrorist" plot.

In light of this latest plot development, I think the reason General Forrest arrived at the Thunder Museum so quickly was that he must have been tipped off anonymously about the "terrorist" plot by the Master or his agents.

Chewy, I hope you don't mind if I introduce Audrey (from issue #1) into the team story in my next post. I'll keep her in character as you wrote her.

BTW, Doug is gone for now. Don't have the others rescue him or anything... at least not yet. I've got something in mind that will explain what he is.

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Great post. I will try to reply soon.

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TTT, great stuff. I love the direction you've pointed us in. Feel free to do anything with those two villains, I haven't preplanned anything.

I'm glad that we're finally working off and resolving some loose threads.

Euro, I like the Hero subplot and I'm glad hes looking into the kidnapping. Very cool idea to make it tied to metas. \:\)


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Thanks, Gooz. \:\)

I just posted another chapter, which was largely self-indulgent on my part but a lot of fun to write.

In it I wanted to explain how, despite Quinn's blurting out his name in the first story (my fault...sorry \:\( ), Quinn still retained his secret identity amongst his teammates. Also, I made some suggestions for a superhero name for Quinn, since obviously he wouldn't use his real name with the media. Gooz, if you have a preference for Quinn's code name, let us know. I'd like to write something a bit later involving the public's perception of the New MBL, so I need to know what they call Quinn in public.

Also, I wrote in a nutshell the explanation of the MBL's name and the original team's origin as I've been able to make sense of it, from that first MBL thread, "Which Seven Users..." Eventually, I hope to rewrite that thread as an actual origin story, but this summary has the gist of it. I had to add some new elements to explain many inconsistencies in that thread, but overall I'm happy with my interpretation.

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Oh, and I edited in the last bit, with Captain Midnight waking up from unconsciousness. In case you were wondering what the frag was going on, he has Multiple Personality Disorder (we already knew he was crazy... just not this crazy). The idea came from a chat with Euro recently.

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I VERY like the nod to the real birth of the MBL, and the meaning of the name, that can't be anything else than the acronym of those real words. Any retcon-explanation have never been satisfying, nor faithful to the Message Board League.

I am somehow perplexed about the retcon to Quinn's public identity. I think (I have not re-read the previous stories, for lack of time) that he was blaming himself to have made his name publicy known resulting in the killing of his girlfriend. But maybe I am wrong.

Surely, I remember him being worried with Hero because he didn't reveal his own identity... so surely Quinn revealed his to his teammates.

But let's hear Gooz on the subject.

And I must post something soon...

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Thanks for your comments, Euro. I was unclear about whether Quinn's identity was actually known to his teammates or the media, because in the 2nd issue during the discussion with his technological wizard friend Kevin it seems that Quinn's name remains a secret. I was trying to clear up what I saw as a discrepancy. Hopefully Gooz can clear this up for us.

I would like to know, though, exactly what the media calls Quinn Stevens.

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I think (I have not re-read the previous stories, for lack of time) that he was blaming himself to have made his name publicy known resulting in the killing of his girlfriend


He was blaming himself for being a hero for her death, but his name is not publicly known (hence the mask). TTT handed the name thing perfectly.

As for the media, we haven't seen how they show the team so I have no idea what they call him. The 'G' is very revealing and they likely assume his name would have soemthing to do with it. It might be funny to have him see a magazine cover and see "Generator" or one of those names plastered across it with his picture. We have a lot of stuff we can play with here.

After this story it might be fun to take a stab at the lighter side of being a superhero team.

TTT, the origin post, simply put, was perfect and amazing. Great job. It was so good that right when I finished it, I re-read it. \:\)


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GREAT!

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I made a connection between the kidnappers and the hdden city, so to bring back together, in the span of one or two post, the guys together.

For how I see it, there are clearly two different exotic-themed "factions" of underworlders in Thunder: one is the central-american Mayan people of the underground city, connected with the kidnapping of the five year old kids; the others are the East Indians thugs of the temple seen in issue 2, and of the two villains of this issue, that are evidently connected with the "master" of the mirror and, through him, with General Forrest.

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Good post, Euro. I may add something to your post soon.

Don't be too sure of the identity of the "master"... There's more than a few bad guys running around Thunder and Promethean. ;\)

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Right.

Actually, I still have to understand issue 2, and what happened there; it's there that lies the secret about the connection between Forrest and his mirror Master, the Thugs, the Draco group and Viper.

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I took some time to re-read issue 2 and that solo by I-man.

So, I see that the faceless Tughs and the similar East-Indian themed villains of this issue were behind the hunt for Doug, and that they finally captured him.

The temple instead was a set up for the Draco Group to bring back Viper, and had no relation with the peoples hunting Doug.

Forrest seemed used by (not allied with) the Draco Group, so I assume his "mirror master" is not connected with them.

And there are the Mayan people capturing kids. Why?

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 Originally Posted By: Eurostar
I took some time to re-read issue 2 and that solo by I-man.

So, I see that the faceless Tughs and the similar East-Indian themed villains of this issue were behind the hunt for Doug, and that they finally captured him.

The temple instead was a set up for the Draco Group to bring back Viper, and had no relation with the peoples hunting Doug.


This was my understanding as well.

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And there are the Mayan people capturing kids. Why?


Better question (which will hopefully lead into an answer to the above question): Who or what are these strange Mayan people?

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In my next post I will begin to explore that. Unless you or Gooz beat me to it. ;\)

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BTW, in case you didn't notice, I've given General Forrest a name: Prescott Gerald Forrest. The name "Prescott" (which I added as a buffer between "General" and "Gerald") was a nod to a certain U.S. president's father and another U.S. president's grandfather, while "Gerald" was Forrest's actual name in his first appearance in the original MBLverse... he actually mutated into "General Forrest" because someone misread "Gerald" as "General," and the title stuck.

It would be interesting to explore Forrest's personal life a bit, too. Is he married/divorced? Does he have any children? Assuming he is middle-aged, he could have a son/daughter around the same age as the MBLers.

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I posted something. Hopefully the fight scene I wrote doesn't conflict with anything you have planned, Euro. Oh, and that's Audrey at the end, there -- she's Chewy's unused creation from issue #1.

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About Forrest, what's interesting is Gooz's statement at the beginning of this story, when he sees Hero's face, that he would have fight with his father. Since Forrest in the scarce apparition in the Vanguard universe didn't take part in fights (unless I'm forgetting something) it means Hero has his origins in the Old MBL one. The mystery deepens...

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About TTT 's last post, VERY COOL. I love the idea about the Hope Foundation, and the eerie couple (at last, they gave me that feeling).

About the attack, perfectly planned. Emily is Sweeter's kid nanny.

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 Originally Posted By: Eurostar
About the attack, perfectly planned. Emily is Sweeter's kid nanny.


I'm changing Emily's name to Penelope. It was a complete coincidence, I swear, that I chose a name that has already been used for another character earlier in this story (Emily was Gooz's dead girlfriend's roommate).

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Ok. Penelope, then.

And, wow, with the tales thread, TTT.

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I know. I have too much time on my hands right now. \:sigh\:

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 Originally Posted By: The Time Trust
I'm changing Emily's name to Penelope. It was a complete coincidence, I swear, that I chose a name that has already been used for another character earlier in this story (Emily was Gooz's dead girlfriend's roommate).


Thanks for the switch. I'm hoping to explore the Quinn/Emily relationship later on. \:\)


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I will be away for a week, going to the sea with the kids.

I was hoping for posting something before leaving, but I am to busy. See you next week.

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I am back, tanned and fattier, and hopefully tomorrow I will post something.

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