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So just nationalist socialist instead of democratic socialist. \:\)

And no I'm not, that's why I ask to be forwarded to it.

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 Originally Posted By: Juche
I didn't realise this is exclusively a place for right wing conservatives.

But I'll try, what's the url of the iconoclast boards? And who's my girl?


Don't play dumb. We all know where you're from. Tell whomod his daughter said hello.


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I swear on my mother's life I have never been on that forum.

Makes me curious about what kind of forum it is though, considering I'd 'fit in there'.

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Oh, c'mon. You just show up at a forum hated by the Iconoclasts because of its perceived extremely right-wing stance on the issues with a screen name that is borrowed from the name of North Korean ideology. Please, we're not retarded.

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I like propaganda art, my actual political stance has nothing to do with North Korea (of course). Is this it? http://s4.zetaboards.com/The_Iconoclasts/index/ looks like a dying or already dead forum to me. If you knew one of the mods there they could do an IP check to see I am not a member, just to prove I'm not lying for whoever cares.

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 Originally Posted By: Juche
I like propaganda art, my actual political stance has nothing to do with North Korea (of course). Is this it? http://s4.zetaboards.com/The_Iconoclasts/index/ looks like a dying or already dead forum to me. If you knew one of the mods there they could do an IP check to see I am not a member, just to prove I'm not lying for whoever cares.


You know the link, you're an admitted socialist and you're obsessed with IP addresses. You're definitely not one of them.


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Justice, at last.

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 Originally Posted By: Juche
I like propaganda art, my actual political stance has nothing to do with North Korea (of course). Is this it? http://s4.zetaboards.com/The_Iconoclasts/index/ looks like a dying or already dead forum to me. If you knew one of the mods there they could do an IP check to see I am not a member, just to prove I'm not lying for whoever cares.


What Rex said.

And, really, having admitted that they hate us over there doesn't do much for your "just check with them" argument. You really expect they'd tell the truth? If you aren't an Iconoclast, you are definitely stupid enough to fit in just fine there.

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 Originally Posted By: Juche
Justice, at last.


Sarcasm is lost on retards.


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What's this forum rivalry then? I'm browsing their forum right now but it seems to be kept alive by just a few admins, why you care about them? And I also noticed my beloved Sydb Jeng hasn't been active there since december, she's probably dead, what a bummer.

Still I find the accusations made here about me being one of them, quite amusing. I love self made conspiracy theories.

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If you take a little extra time to notice, they are all admins. They are afraid of us because they started a war that they couldn't finish. They hate Rex because he offended someone's internet honor. They hate me cause I Benedict Arnold-ed them because they were fucking morons and couldn't take the fact they got in way above their heads because another one of them got all out of whack about a fucking yellow space bug.

Not that you really need to be told any of this since you already know.

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A war? On the internet? How many casualties yet? Internet honor? Did he win something?

Either way, their forum is starting to annoy me already, with all the large poorly designed signatures. One admin apparently is so insecure about his own sexuality that he needs to use a signature containing 4 pictures of a naked woman to convince himself and the rest of the forum he really is straight.

But no this is all new to me, doesn't make it any less amusing though. Don't they only have like 15 members? You must already recognize which one is me then.

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Yes, they really do need large sigs to convince them of their sexuality and to cover up the insecurity they feel about the size of their penis.

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Which one you are?
None of us care

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man of Zur-En-Arrh

Which one you are?
None of us care


Why you post here then?

It's just funny how people think I came from some board I had never even heard of before tonight.

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Um, this tactic didn't work when I tried it the first time...

http://www.rkmbs.com/...7045#Post947045

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Well that explains why you guys are so paranoid towards new members. I don't know the history behind this 'war' but it keeps getting more interesting the more I read about it. What the hell did Sydb Jeng do here if she's a member there though.

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 Originally Posted By: Juche
Well that explains why you guys are so paranoid towards new members. I don't know the history behind this 'war' but it keeps getting more interesting the more I read about it. What the hell did Sydb Jeng do here if she's a member there though.


Exhibit B: http://www.rkmbs.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=userposts&id=2716

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Ha, that's her. Virginia, Jen Garner avatar, no coincidence. Is it acceptable here to have multiple forum aliases?

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Honestly, if there were rules, it would probably be one.

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Addendum: You probably don't want to use too many youtube videos, though. People will peg you for Whomod in no time.

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Oh my fucking god what have I found now



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 Originally Posted By: Juche
Oh my fucking god what have I found now



The digger I deep the better it gets.


That's some good English you have there.


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Hahaha, sorry was distracted.

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Are we being raided again?

I'm only asking because the last time someone tried that none of us really noticed until after they gave up...

Oh, and when they complained about using time on an internet raid instead a sick familymember...

So, I'm just asking, because with all the chaos, feces throwing and christian evilness that takes place here it's easy for a "raid" to get lost in the confusement.




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What, a forum raid? What's that? A few guys registering at the same time to post some garbage?

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 Originally Posted By: BASAMS The Plumber
http://www.gantdaily.com/news/11/ARTICLE/52041/2009-05-19.html

  • Washington, D.C. (AHN) - The Senate votes Tuesday on a bill adding consumer protections in the credit card industry. The American Bankers Association and some Republicans have warned that the new rules may worsen the credit crisis.

    Lawmakers convene at 10:00 am to resume consideration of "any pending germane amendments," according to the schedule released by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV). The final vote will be held before the weekly party luncheons.

    Sen. Christopher Dodd (D-CT), the chairman of the Senate Banking Committee had announced last week that he had reached an agreement with Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL) on provisions of the bill.

    The measure requires that payments from cardholders be applied first to the balance with the highest interest rate. It prohibits credit card companies from increasing rates in the first year after the account is opened. Card issuers thereafter are required to give a 45-day notice before increasing rates.

    Companies must also mail statements at least 21 days before the bill is due, and must not charge interest on paid-off balances from the previous billing cycle, also known as double-cycle billing.

    The House approved its own version of the measure about three weeks ago by a 357-70 vote. All except one of the 70 votes against the bill had come from Republicans, including House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH), Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-VA) and Rep. Tom Price (R-GA), chairman of the Republican Study Committee, a group of House conservatives.

    House Republicans had said that the bill would only make it more difficult for middle class Americans to use a credit card and ultimately exacerbate the credit crunch plaguing the economy.

    The American Bankers Association has also warned that the "new rules may increase the cost of credit and make it less available for consumers and small businesses."

    The group had also written Dodd and Shelby saying, "Lenders of all sizes have already taken extensive efforts to comply with these sweeping reforms, and if confronted by new requirements, will have even more difficulty serving their customers at a time their customers most need it."

    President Barack Obama is seeking to raise consumer confidence and get credit flowing amid a deepening recession and rising unemployment rate, which went from 8.5 percent in March to 8.9 percent in April, the highest since September 1983.

    Consumer credit also fell by 5.2 percent or $11.1 billion in March, the biggest drop since 1990, according to the Federal Reserve. Revolving credit in the first quarter declined by 6.5 percent.

    The Fed had issued new credit card regulations last December, but those rules will take effect in July 2010.


For the record, I agree with the listed credit card reforms.

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More government control over a private business. That sounds like a great idea.



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More government control over a private business. That sounds like a great idea.


Credit card companies are, for all intents and purposes, banks. Banks are already under strict government control. The way I see it, the only thing these proposed rules do is bring credit card lending practices more in line with other lending rules.

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That's understandable, if you buy into obama's hype.


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This is essentially getting rid of the bait and switch that credit card companies have been doing for years. Bait and switch is prohibited in almost every form of commerce.

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I'm sure rex is out of his sphere of experience when it comes to matters of credit cards, banks, and money.


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
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Perhaps I am as well. I'm not sure when it comes to banks.

But it appears to me that it should be at the discretion of the ones privately running the banks how credit card policies are carried out.

I heard Dick Cheney say something about the banks being "different" from the car companies since they're apart of a core financial infrastructure that's already connected to the government through various government organizations. If that's the case, why are we calling them private banks in the first place?

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Banks shouldn't be told to make bad loans to people who can't pay them back by the government. That's what fucks us. But banks should be required to be honest and forthcoming with people they give cards to. Right now, they can hit you with hidden fees, change rates and the amount of credit you have, and such with very little notice and no reason other than they want to. I'm in favor of making them have to be honest about what they're offering you and not being able to alter the agreement at their whim.


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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I'm in favor of making them have to be honest about what they're offering you and not being able to alter the agreement at their whim.


Exactly. A contract is supposed to be binding on both parties, not something that one party (in this case the bank) can change whenever they feel like it.

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The credit card companies are up front about their fees. They say they can change the interest rates. You are borrowing money their money, they can do with it whatever they want. This is why I never had a credit card. No one will take better care of your money than you. Everyone thinking credit card companies are some sort of great business is one of the biggest reasons why we are in the situation we are in now.


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 Originally Posted By: the G-man of Zur-En-Arrh
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I'm in favor of making them have to be honest about what they're offering you and not being able to alter the agreement at their whim.


Exactly. A contract is supposed to be binding on both parties, not something that one party (in this case the bank) can change whenever they feel like it.


But isn't this true of any company?

A lack of honesty in the midst of competition is what makes companies fail in the first place; people go to more honest organizations while the dishonest ones suffer. That's what gives them incentive to be honest without government retardation.

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WASHINGTON -- The White House unveiled a series of administrative moves aimed at making it easier for workers to build up their savings.

The announcement marks the administration's latest effort at "rebuilding" the economy and putting struggling workers on better footing, aides said.

"We have to revive this economy and rebuild it stronger than before," President Barack Obama said in his weekly Saturday address. "And making sure that folks have the opportunity and incentive to save -- for a home or college, for retirement or a rainy day -- is essential to that effort. If you work hard and meet your responsibilities, this country is going to honor our collective responsibility to you: to ensure that you can save and secure your retirement."

The moves largely depend on employers or workers, or both, taking action. But White House officials said tens of millions of families could benefit.

One change makes it easier for employers, particularly small and midsize businesses, to start automatically enrolling employees in workplace savings plans. Workers would retain the ability to opt out of the plans.

Almost half of large companies already have automatic enrollment for their workplace savings plans. Shifting to automatic enrollment increases participation to 90% from 70%, and particularly benefits low-income workers, White House aides said. The administration's changes will generally streamline the process for employers to adopt automatic enrollment by issuing preapproved language employers can use to amend their plans.

The changes also will make it easier for taxpayers to buy federal savings bonds using their federal income-tax refunds and allow workers to convert unused vacation or leave into savings, if their employers are agreeable.

The administration also is pushing legislation in Congress that would go much further. It would automatically enroll workers in Individual Retirement Accounts when their employers don't offer a workplace savings plan. About half the U.S. work force, or about 78 million people, lack access to workplace plans.

"Just as the administration is dedicated to reviving the economy and getting people back to work, so too it is dedicated to helping put retirement security within the reach of all Americans," Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said in a statement.

Many contributions by lower-wage workers would be matched by an existing federal savers tax credit. Mr. Obama also wants to expand the credit's availability.


As long as the opt out option is clearly presented to new employees and it seems their is no additional burden to small businesses this sounds like the first reasonable decision Obama has made.




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 Originally Posted By: the G-man of Zur-En-Arrh
 Originally Posted By: Rob Kamphausen

anythings he's done so far that you've liked?


He bought his kids a dog. That's nice. Kids should have a dog.
pretty much it for me as well.

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 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
Like Iggy, I agreed with a lot of what Obama said, which happened to be the same thing that McCain said in a lot of instances; but he's either not done them or done the exact opposite: such as reducing presidential powers, fighting against Congressional earmarks, and reducing government spending.


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