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Seeing as it has over 105000 miles on it and a door fell half off last night

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I thought lawyers were rich...

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I have two daughters, one still in college, and a wife with a shoe obsession that rivals Imelda Marcos.

But, seriously, I come from the old school where people drive cars until the doors fall off. Which just happened.

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Just weld the door back on, paint a 01 on the sides, and tell everyone it's the new General Lee.


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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I always saw myself as more of a Boss Hogg type however.

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Well, if you had a Cadillac convertible with bull horns on the front, we wouldn't need to be having this conversation, would we?


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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Cadillac's GM. No bailout brands for me.

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
I always saw myself as more of a Boss Hogg type however.

a man who died in 1994? I always saw you that way too.


Bow ties are coool.
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 Originally Posted By: Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
 Originally Posted By: the G-man
I always saw myself as more of a Boss Hogg type however.

a man who died in 1994? I always saw you that way too.


Threats of violence aren't cool, Ray.

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Did some test driving today. I'm looking for a small SUV because, well, I live in upstate New York and the winters are six months long. But I don't need something as big as an explorer.

I test drove the following today:

Toyota RAV4, Subaru Forester, Hyundai Santa Fe and Ford Escape.

On first impressions I didn't care much for the Forester at all. The Toyota wasn't bad but the driver area was a little cramped.

At this point I've probably narrowed it down to either the Santa Fe or the Escape.

The Escape was a little more truck-like, in both good ways and bad. The Hyundai was a little smoother but I'm not sure I like the more bulbous design of the vehicle.

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Buy American, you commie fuck.


Seriously, I've been driving a Ford for the past two years without the hint of a problem. Drove a Hyundai for the 9 years prior. When something goes wrong, like anything electrical, it's a bitch to get fixed and get fixed right.


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
Buy American, you commie fuck.


There's nothing communist about the free market and open competition, mister.

Besides, some of the Santa Fe's are made in the USA.

In any event, the Consumer Rankings appear to give the Hyundai better marks and the warranty period is 100k vs 30k. Conversely, with my last Ford that didn't really matter because the thing reached about 90,000 before anything but minor troubles began. Also, I have a Ford dealer about a block from where I work but the Hyundai dealer is about 25 miles from my job (and about three miles from my house).

I'm kind of leaning toward the Ford tonight but will test drive them both again and also see about the price, etc.

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
Seeing as it has over 105000 miles on it and a door fell half off last night


I recall somebody telling me that even though my car with 150000 miles needed a new engine and new transmission that I should just fix it instead of getting a new one. Oh yeah. That was you. Shut the fuck up and get it fixed.

Bitch.

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You should listen to him, he's basically a car lawyer.


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TEN YEARS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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 Originally Posted By: Stupid Doog

 Originally Posted By: the G-man
Seeing as it has over 105000 miles on it and a door fell half off last night


I recall somebody telling me that even though my car with 150000 miles needed a new engine and new transmission that I should just fix it instead of getting a new one. Oh yeah. That was you. Shut the fuck up and get it fixed.

Bitch.


YEAH, BIRCH!

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 Originally Posted By: Stupid Doog

 Originally Posted By: the G-man
Seeing as it has over 105000 miles on it and a door fell half off last night


I recall somebody telling me that even though my car with 150000 miles needed a new engine and new transmission that I should just fix it instead of getting a new one. Oh yeah. That was you. Shut the fuck up and get it fixed.

Bitch.


Here's the difference. You were considering a new car because of the possibility it would be cheaper than getting your car fixed. I pointed out why that might not be the case. It was a discussion of finances and car payments. My current car is paid for and I can pay cash for a new one.

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man

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Ended up buying the Escape.

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You mean the one you attacked me for when I recommended it to someone else?


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As I recall, about four years ago, you suggested that CJ get an Escape because they got better gas mileage than an Explorer. I didn't attack you for that suggestion, but asked you a question based on my earlier consideration of the model, to wit:

 Originally Posted By: rex

If you want to get a SUV I would recommend the Ford Escape. It has plenty of room, tons of power for a V6 and is inexpensive for an SUV. The gas mileage won't be as good as a car but it has better mileage than the Explorer and other larger SUVs.


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Are you sure about that?

I looked at getting an Escape back in 2004 and the EPA estimates weren't much better than the larger (and more comfortable) Explorer, only about a 3-4 mpg difference.

If that's still the case, unless someone is driving a lot of miles per day they might as well go for the more comfortable car, especially given all the rebates and special offers that Ford is throwing at people willing to buy an Explorer.


I then went on to suggest to CJ:

 Originally Posted By: the G-man

My advice is simple, CJ: you're young, you're single, you got some money: BUY A FUN, IMPRACTICAL CAR, PREFERABLY A CONVERTABLE, WHILE YOU STILL CAN.

There's plenty of time for SUVs, sedans and hardtops once you're married and have kids. Now's the time to have some fun.


That seems less like an attack and more like a respectful conversation.

Also, the Escape was redesigned in 2008 (ie, about two years after our discussion). As such, we aren't talking about the same car now as we were four years ago. The new one drove a lot nicer and had better gas mileage than the one we were talking about four years ago.

Either way, I'm sorry if you took our previous exchange as an attack, insofar as that was not at all my intent.

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....given that the Search Function here is a joke, do you bookmark every conversation??

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I'm beginning to think robs stores these boards in g-mans brain.


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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
....given that the Search Function here is a joke, do you bookmark every conversation??


\:lol\:

No. I can't figure it out, either, but for some reason I seem to have a knack for entering the right word combinations that allow me to trick the inherent crappiness of the Kamphausen search function.

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I'm beginning to think robs stores these boards in g-mans brain.


\:lol\: \:lol\:

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your spastic fits of memory are best followed with "hooHWEY" and or "GLAYvan" to properly identify you as the simpsons' professor frink


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You know it is with us old people and the Alzheimers. We can't remember what we had for breakfast five minutes ago but we can remember stuff from years past with incredible detail.

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What were we talking about again?

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 Originally Posted By: Rob Kamphausen
your spastic fits of memory are best followed with "hooHWEY" and or "GLAYvan" to properly identify you as the simpsons' professor frink

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Picking up the Escape and dropping off the Explorer in the afternoon tomorrow.

I feel sort of bad, like I'm saying goodbye to an old friend:



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