RKMBs Forums .::Important::. Politics and Current Events Stewart and O'Reilly Debate

Stewart should prepare better if he ever wants to win a debate with Bill.

Stewart's argument is that other artists such as Eric Clapton have written about cop killers (such as Eric Clapton) and still been invited to the White House.

But that argument bypasses the cop killer in question (Chesimard, who Common argues in the song is innocent and falsely accused) has a long record of violence, and fled to radical marxist Cuba, where she lives to this day. And that Common went to Cuba and visited the convicted escaped cop killer.

Common has written separate songs that lionize two separate cop killers(Chesimard, and Abu-Jamal), and another song that ("burn the Bush") similarly advocates killing then-president Bush.


But hey, y'know, other than that Common hasn't said anything that should exclude him from a White House invitation.

Common is also a member of Rev. Jeremiah Wright's church and indoctrinated in Black Liberation Theology, and thus yet another manifestation of Obama's ties to radicalism.
As if his lyrics advocating the killing of cops and Bush weren't enough.

Something I didn't pick up before is that Common alleges Chesimard's innocence, and then simultaneously defends her as a "soldier" "fighting for [his] freedom."

That would indicate that common does believe she's innocent of the crime, but simply agrees with her cause and thinks that should acquit her from punishment.

Stewart is clearly bristling with emotion throughout the interview, and at best comes up with equivalency arguments that circumnavigate that Obama knows these cop killers are guilty, Stewart knows these cop killers are guilty, and Common himself (though clouded in evasive language) knows these cop killers are guilty, and Common therefore has no business being at the White House.

I also love the point where Stewart boils over (at 5:55) and just goes into a sweeping rant about Fox News. With nothing to back it up, of course, beyond pure emotion.

Finally, what the fuck is that thing on Common's head at 8:05 into the video?
His grandmother's wig?

For all the dressing of this as some sort of "artist", the guy is just an over-rated goof.

For what it's worth, I don't think Bono should have been allowed inside the white house either. The guy sucks.

Also, it seems that Stewart's defense is the usual "[they] did it first."

They should have also brought up that even outside of the copkiller supporter thing-the things that Bono (even if he comes off as a fake/hypocrite) and Springsteen advocate are far better than the one Common advocates.

Yeah, Hurricane Carter, from the Dylan song, actually was proven innocent.

The Randy Weaver thing in Bono's song actually did raise a legitimate issue about rights violated by police and causing an unnecessary shootout.

Whereas Common basically advocates for two people who killed cops indiscriminantly in the name of some racially motivated violent revolution.

Jesus, if anyone doesn't realize Stewart utterly destroyed Bill in that debate, then they are simply not paying attention to reality... !!!

I would honestly pay real money to watch a "Jon Stewart/Bill O'Reilly Hour" show on ANY channel ! Those guys have real chemistry on screen. They debate like GODS!

Can't seem to get it to embed, but here's another segment off the FOXNews site...

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4699234/jon-stewart-evaluates-gop-presidential-field/

Holy SHIT! Stewart and Colbert assfuck the entire pompous Leftwing jerkoff crowd here!! I loooove they take it home to the Green Nuts...

Oh, and stay for "The Hug" at the end. It's The Original Daily Show Family together again...

Fixed it for you.

Again, Pro, you accuse others of partisanship, even as you just repeat the liberal talking points.
You seem completely oblivious to your own clear liberal bias, to the point that you are incapable of even understanding any other perspective.

You quote Jon Stewart and Colbert as if they were news sources.
Need I say more?

Hence the term "G-shills"...

I quote them as if they're hilarious. And correct. Which, in the original debate up top, Stewart is.



Only to your therapist, David. Only to your therapist...

I don't see Stewart utterly destroying Bill. It actually seemed like they weren't really debating, they were too polite to each other (but then again, maybe that's just because I don't fall in with either party, so I'm not exactly rooting for either).

Although Pro, I'm just curious - you seem to be rooting for Stewart, but disregarding both him and Reilly, and even Obama and inviting a poet in the white house - what do you think about Common as a role model? (I believe their debate eventually devolved into trying to put down or justify Common's support of the copkiller)

P.S.

Just to get this out of the way: I'm racist against Common, so there.

And, as per usual, I'm sure every other fan of Stewart is gonna say the exact same thing.

All Stewart and Colbert have to do is speak and their lapdogs applaud them regardless of the validity of their points.

Really takes the piss out of anything they or their zombies have to say.

Honestly? I'm just stirring/smoking the pot. I post something slightly bent to the Left, and then watch to see who bites. If I had a real opinion about the whole thing, it's that Stewart makes more of a valid point about the inconsistency of FOX's message, and their "manufactured outrage". Basically it just says their message is that whites are okay to go to the White House no matter what they say or do, but not blacks.

As far as Common himself, and his material, I don't know the first thing about either. And frankly, don't care. What's this fantasy "sanctity" of the White House? The biggest crooks ever have set there. Look all the criminal politicians that have strolled those halls openly. You think I care if one of the many poets that spoke in a "who gives a shit" event happened to be a black rapper that once sang a song about some chick from the 70's that shot a cop? Give me a break. Rove, Cheney, and Rumsfeld killed thousands for oil. Look at the manufactured lies we went to Vietnam over. How many died there? A rapper sang a song once, somewhere, away from the White House? Who gives a flying fuck? Only the ignorant children who see the world as some single-layered cartoon, I suppose...



I'm racist against anyone you're racist against, you slant-eyed devil...

Sure JQ, suuuuuuuurrre.

Stewart and O'Reilly debates are the political equivalent of professional wrestling. You can tell they are sort of fake, no one really wins and each one's fans declare victory for their side.

It's still real to me, damnit.

Not as real as Prometheus who's trying to convince everyone that he's some kind of shock artist \ social engineer.

Yes. That.

No, I'm smoking the pot. I'm pulling your chain. And you're following me around Rob's trying to bite away! Thanks!

That's right Pro. You're "pulling chains." You're a master manipulator. Everything you post is just an example of your ingenious social conducting......after you get called out on your bullshit.

Dance, puppet...

Pariah broked Pro?

Well...I described his new routine. And he responded by imitating the description--essentially implying that he's a master social engineer--and thus became a parody of himself.

So yeah. "Broked" sounds accurate enough.

Pro used to have witty comebacks, but it seems he has fell into the repetitive line routine of MEM and JLA. Sad really.

Nah, I own him. And let's be honest....any emoticon comeback is because "I learned it from watching you, Dad!"

I won the debate because I turned it off once it started. Who wants to watch predictable shit?

But...it's funny...

I don't smoke pot as much as you do.

I'd say you learned it from watching your gay lover Whomod.

You confessed to Whomod himself how you worship his posts on the insurgency forum, that BSAMS re-posted here.
And at the same time fronted here on RKMB that you don't approve of Whomod-level far-left craziness, even as you praised him behind our backs as the "best poster ever" on RKMB.

You've been owned here for a long time, for those who care to look at the glaring contradictions in what you post.

Your only defense is not responding, and hiding behind the false bravado of