RKMBs Forums .::Important::. Politics and Current Events STAR TREK: A Socialist Utopia?

'There Are Four Lights' is our first single.

Captain Kirk is the coolest white man on the planet. 'nuff said.

That was most DEFINITELY Ron Moore. He co-created DS9. That entire cynical/dark layer was his adding. BSG is the obvious expression of this...

Shatner or Pine?

Agreed. It was that same crawling-into-the-light phase we see glimpses of in Kirk's era. By Picard's time, interstellar travel is like running to pick up some cigs from the store. Easy. But, TOS and ENT, everything is "new". Everything is difficult. Hell, they were still using human translators, and had no standard security operating procedure ("Reed Alert" ). It was a joy to see how they overcame the natural obstacles to exploration and making contact with other species. By Kirk's era, it's a joy to watch them push out past "the galactic barrier" and into the unknown. By TNG, the 1701-D is making diplomatic runs, instead of actually exploring very much. Which Picard points out in that awful movie INSURRECTION, "Does anyone remember when we were explorers?"

That's what I really think Trek needs to be about. New. Doesn't have to be new PLANETS or races or whatever. But, new takes. New concepts. To Boldly Explore All Facets of the Show That We've Never Explored Before.

Which planet?

four lights, motherfucker.

fuck. I missed that post.

My hypothesis is that The Federation has two currencies:

1) One for "domestic" use, based on a Social Credit system (or something like that), which would explain post-scarcity while there is still a free market.

2) The other is for trading with other Empires/alliances/federations/etc, a hard currency similar to gold or silver standard, but instead based on a metal valuable in the world of Star Trek.

Both. I like Chris Pine as a young Kirk. He does a fine job with a Shatner-esque approach to the role and I think he'll continue to do a good job. Shatner of course is the man!!

Was talking with friends about this last night. I was reminded that they did have Federation credits and offered to buy stuff with them. This led me to check the Trek wiki Memory Alpha, and I found some very interesting facts.



Which leads me to repeat:



Also:

• James T. Kirk stated that the Federation Starfleet had a lot invested in both him and Commander Spock. In fact, Starfleet had 122,200 plus credits invested in Spock by the end of 2267. (TOS: "Errand of Mercy", "The Apple")
• In 2267, Uhura offered to purchase a tribble from Cyrano Jones for ten credits. (TOS: "The Trouble with Tribbles")
• In 2364, Beverly Crusher bought a roll of cloth and had her account on the USS Enterprise-D billed. (TNG: "Encounter at Farpoint")
• The Federation would have paid 1.5 million Federation credits as a lump sum and then 100,000 credits every Barzanian year for the rights to the Barzan wormhole. (TNG: "The Price")
• In 2373, Quark indirectly caused damage to a cargo bay. Quark was informed that he would have to bear the cost burden for the repairs. (DS9: "Business as Usual")
• When Quark rescued Gaila from a Federation Starbase after his arrest on Thalos VI, he had to pay a fine before he could be released. (DS9: "The Magnificent Ferengi")
• Benjamin Sisko threatened Quark to collect on four years "back rent" that was unpaid. (DS9: "Bar Association")
• On numerous occasions, Starfleet officers have gambled to win latinum at Quark's Bar, including Julian Bashir, William Riker, Jadzia Dax.
• Kirk said to Picard "This is my house, I sold it years ago." inside the Nexus, referring directly to the sale of his former home. (Star Trek Generations)

Latinum. That was the metal I was thinking of.