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Guess faux patriots are going to accuse Biden of being a war criminal now... https://www.politico.com/news/2022/...yman-al-zawahri-in-drone-strike-00049089

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If bsams the ditch digger were still here, he would tell us that the kill wouldn't have been possible without a Republican's previous efforts, or whatever he heard on FUX News that day...


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It's not like President "Weekend at Bernie's" Joe Biden parachuted in and killed Al Zawahiri himself. The CIA and our military have been looking for Zawahiri since at least 1998, when he orchestrated the simultaneous bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.
And then the U.S.S. Cole bombing just before President Bill Clinton finished his term in late 2000, with no retribution by Clinton.
A lack of consequences that set the stage for the emboldened Sept 11 2001 attacks.

So they've been hunting Zawahiri throughout the Clinton, W. Bush, Obama, Trump, and now Biden presidencies.
Keep in mind Joe Biden is the guy former secretary of defense Robert Gates said "has been on the wrong side of every foreign policy decision for 40 years", at the time he was selected as vice president by Obama.
Biden is the lone person in even the left-leaning Obama administration who when CIA offered a chance to go after Osama Bin Ladin, said "Don't do it."

So if Biden even had any input in the Zawahiri killing, it was just a wave of the hand saying okay to someone else's pre-set plan. More likely, that decision was made by Ron Klain or Anthony Blinkin, or Susan Rice, or the puppetmaster in the shadows himself, Barack Obama.
Biden is NOT the person actually in charge. Everyone knows it. He's pooping his pants in Rome, wandering in the wrong direction from the podium, sticking his hand out to shake hands with invisible people, or being redirected away from people asking questions by some White House staffer in an Easter Bunny suit. Biden is not in charge. That he takes credit and a victory lap for Zawahiri's assassination is beyond laughable, and piled high with irony.

Add to that how Biden and his puppetmasters have literally driven tens of thousands of our military's brightest and best out of the service in the last 18 months, first by anti-Republican purges, and then by requiring the healthiest people in our country to take a vaccine that doesn't work, and on top of that has a high ratio of dangerous side effects. They chose to walk away, even when humiliatingly given given dishonorable discharges for doing so.
And how after demoralizing our career military veterans with dishonorable discharges after decades of service, just for not getting the Covid vaccine, they run ads for military career recruitment opportunities for transgenders, lesbians, and the bipolar and the otherwise mentally unstable. Watching this, the Russians, Chinese, Iranians, North Koreans, Al Qaida, and ISIS must be howling with laughter, unable to believe their luck at having the Democrats unleash this internal coup on the U.S.
And these enemy nations still have another 28 months to run wild and start new wars, with absolutely no U.S. resistance.

Tucker Carlson, to name one example saying it, is right. This is not in defense of the the United States, it is a calculated plan by the Democrat-Bolshevik/Left to destroy the country from within. To crush our military's preparedness for war, and then get us into two or more devastating military conflicts, that they have prepared us to lose.

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Tucker Carlson. Fuck. Can you find a better source?

And you're anti-vaccine, too, Dave. (Going for my fourth shot in a few weeks.)

And anti-trans, anti-lesbian, anti-mental illness.

Are you QAnon?

You've skewed far, far right since I was last here.


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Originally Posted by First Amongst Daves
Tucker Carlson. Fuck. Can you find a better source?

Tucker Carlson is literally the most watched nightly program on cable television in the United States, and gets even higher ratings than Bill O'Reilly's program, that Carlson's program replaced. Carlson is a paleo-conservative (a k a, old-school conservative, or Reagan conservative, along with Pat Buchanan one of the two strongest voices in that movement), so my politics haven't changed. It's just that the opposing Democrat party, and much of the news media, and much of the rest of the world, has suddenly tilted authoritarian marxist-socialist-Bolshevik Left. Including Australia that has seized its population's guns, and put some of its population in Covid-19 concentration camps. That should terrify you.

I used to think if things ever got intolerable in the U.S., I could immigrate to Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Argentina, Austria, Germany, Holland, Denmark, but those countries as well have gone full blown authoritarian socialist.

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And you're anti-vaccine, too, Dave. (Going for my fourth shot in a few weeks.)

I'm double-vaccinated, but if I knew then what I know now, I would not have gotten them. Studies show that Covid cases are actually higher among the vaccinated and boosted, and in the U.S. and other countries, there is supressions of any dissenting thought, even of dissenting voices among medical researchers. Including suppression of Dr Robert Malone, WHO INVENTED the MRNA vaccine technology !
https://www.rkmbs.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1235805#Post1235805

A number of prominent doctors and medical researchers are pressing for the recall of the vaccine. And especially not for its use on people under 18 and infants.


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And anti-trans, anti-lesbian, anti-mental illness.

"Anti mental illness?" I don't know what you mean. I'm against using mental illness as an excuse for getting away with crimes. I'm against doping up many people who don't need it with anti-depressants, that actually make them more likely to commit suicide. I'm against letting mentally ill people run wild in the streets and attack and harass other people, as they are in many U.S. (Democrat-governed) major cities.

I'm opposed to transgender men in sports against women, where they are destroying and wiping out women in sports with an unfair advantage.
I'm against transgender men in women's bathrooms and locker rooms where they are raping actual women (and there are many cases of that.)
I'm against men criminals pretending to be transgender to be locked up in women's prisons, where they are either raping women or having consensual sex with women.
I'm against having a transgender admiral in the United States Navy, that is a mockery and an embarassment to our military, and is a laughingstock and an emboldenment to enemy nations, that makes them rightly think the U.S. military is unprepared for war, and unserious about defending itself.

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Are you QAnon?

lol No, I'm not. Pariah was posting a lot of Quanon stuff here in 2015-2016, and I said at the time that it seemed too hard to believe.

I only said that in the wake of the Jeffrey Epstein case, that the idea of ruling global elites worldwide involved in pedophile sex rituals or initiation or blackmail, suddenly seems a lot more believable. Epstein's trips to his pedophile island involved at least two presidents and a British prince, as well as many other influential billionaires and elites, who were additionally videotaped having sex and blackmailed. That much is fact.
Many of the other "Pizzagate" and other conspiracy theories of Quanon remain conspiracy theories and lacking proof, or outright disproven.
So I don't drink at that fountain.

I view Quanon the same way I view Alex Jones, where he makes a few good points and sounds credible for maybe 10 minutes, then quickly flies off the deep end with wild conspiracy way beyond the facts. I see both as the conservative equivalent of Michael Moore, where each starts with a grain of sand of truth, but then build conspiracies way beyond the facts.

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You've skewed far, far right since I was last here.

Actually no. As I've said, I remain essentially a Reagan conservative. It's the opposing Democrat party, and many nations worldwide, that have seen an opportunity to seize control during the Covid-19 pandemic, and permanently tighten the reigns of authoritarian Leftist control over their nations. Australia, Canada, Austria, The Netherlands, the U.K., are just a few examples. And here in the U.S., states with Democrat governors have similarly seized authoritarian power (California, Washington, Oregon, Michigan, Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey) while Republican governed states (Florida, Texas, Tennessee, South Dakota, Georgia) have remained open, and put pressure on Democrat states to re-open. And populations in Democrat states are fleeing to Republican-governed states, voting with their feet against lockdowns, school indoctrination, and surges in crime rampant in Dem states.

The move toward authoritarianism across much of the West should terrify you, particularly in your native Australia. I've posted several clips here from Australian news. Your country a few years ago ran public service ads during gun confiscation, pre-Covid, where the ads basically said either you turn over your guns, or you'll be put in prison where you'll be gang-raped. And that's just a slice of the authoritarianism you probably see daily in Australia. Although you probably have news that's the equivalent of CNN and MSNBC here, that propagandizes all these authoritarian seizures of power are somehow rationalizable and Okay. It's not.

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"I used to think if things ever got intolerable in the U.S., I could immigrate to Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Argentina, Austria, Germany, Holland, Denmark, but those countries as well have gone full blown authoritarian socialist."

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"... permanently tighten the reigns of authoritarian Leftist control over their nations. Australia, Canada, Austria, The Netherlands, the U.K., are just a few examples."

Erm. What?

The UK has an arch-conservative government at present. Australia just booted out its centre right government, and installed a centre left government. So even if you categorise Australia as "leftist" (which is correct at present), it is hardly authoritarian. I could take a piss on the Australian flag on the steps of Canberra and I'd guess I'd get arrested and given a good-behaviour acquittal by a magistrate for urinating in public, not for urinating on the flag. I'm not going to disappear in a jail. I've spent time in an authoritarian state - the PRC - and oddly I know the difference.

There was this #Australiahasfallen hashtag doing the rounds on Twitter. Some idiot cops at an anti-vaccine protest in Melbourne went well-over the line, and suddenly the NRA says, "See what happens when you give up your guns?". It would be hilarious if it was not so sinister.

Here's the thing. Our police are armed. Cops on patrol are generally young dickheads. But they're good at dealing with problems on the street - arrests are rare and most trouble makers get move along notices.

I was in the UK in 2018 and watched a far right protest rally in Trafalgar Square. There was a line of cops. Their professionalism was superb. No protective gear. One big, big guy came up to a big, big riot cop and was about an inch away from his face, swearing and spitting. The cop didn't move an inch. The right wing protestors were permitted to stomp about, stopping traffic, and eventually marched off to Buckingham Palace. That's not the indicia of an authoritarian regime.

Edit: sorry, I just noticed this:

"The move toward authoritarianism across much of the West should terrify you, particularly in your native Australia. I've posted several clips here from Australian news. Your country a few years ago ran public service ads during gun confiscation, pre-Covid, where the ads basically said either you turn over your guns, or you'll be put in prison where you'll be gang-raped."

Got a citation for that? Because I never saw it. And if it was "a few years ago", then it was a message from our conservative government.

One of my clients is a big shooters association. Really nice people. By "big", a surprisingly large percentage of the population. They are supportive of laws banning semi-automatic weapons. It would help farmers dealing with rabbits. but the political appetite isn't there. They go about their business with shooting competitions and so on. Occasionally they run a campaign where they go into a regional area and spend a night wiping out feral foxes, pigs, cats and rabbits all of which devastate indigenous wildlife. That's good, responsible civic work. (Australia always does well in the Olympics in shooting - there is a big pool of good shooters.)

If you own a gun in Australia, you have to keep it in a gun safe. The cops will do random checks to make sure this is happening. I met a guy at a dinner party about four years ago who had an old shotgun. He kept it in his basement, rolled up in a rug, under a sofa. The cops were sympathetic but charged him. He appeared before a magistrate. $100 fine, and he had to buy a gun safe. That's hardly authoritarian.

My godson was accused of domestic violence recently. He has three guns in a safe, all licensed. Until the allegations fell away, the guns were not to leave the safe and the key to the safe had to be in the possession of someone responsible. That fell to me. I kept his key for six months until the mess was sorted out. I then gave it back. Again, not authoritarian.

"And that's just a slice of the authoritarianism you probably see daily in Australia."

I think what you're seeing is an agenda. You're in an information bubble which promotes a certain ideology. Have you recently been to "Australia, Canada, Austria, The Netherlands, the U.K" to determine the truth of any of this? I travel to the UK pre-Covid one a year. I can tell you, from personal experience, that the anti-Brexit demonstrations in which tens of thousands of people protested against Boris Johnson's government outside the Houses of Parliament were peaceful, with a small police presence. I went along mostly because I had been told the signs would be funny. The one that stands out in my head was a granny wearing a placard which said, "I am very cross".

Edit again: sorry, now I've read this:

"Including Australia that has seized its population's guns, and put some of its population in Covid-19 concentration camps.""

What the fuck are you reading?!

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Originally Posted by First Amongst Daves
The UK has an arch-conservative government at present. Australia just booted out its centre right government, and installed a centre left government. So even if you categorise Australia as "leftist" (which is correct at present), it is hardly authoritarian. I could take a piss on the Australian flag on the steps of Canberra and I'd guess I'd get arrested and given a good-behaviour acquittal by a magistrate for urinating in public, not for urinating on the flag. I'm not going to disappear in a jail. I've spent time in an authoritarian state - the PRC - and oddly I know the difference.

First off, I didn't think the resigning British prime minister Boris Johnson was particularly "conservative" or "right wing". If Boris Johnson were an American politician, I'd call him a RINO, Republican in name only, someone who acquiesces to the other side and doesn't defend conservatism or his conservative voters. Boris Johnson has for the most part been a disappointment. The only thing he did right (under pressure) was "Brexit", getting Britain out of the E.U. He was barely conservative, and under the Covid pandemic allowed a lot of authoritarian leftist intrusions on British citizens' freedoms. Like an American Democrat leader, he was completely hypocritical, and didn't even follow his own Covid restrictions. He was so right wing and powerfully authoritarian... he had to resign due to a lack of support.

You can hypothetically urinate in public or on an Australian flag (or British, or U.S. flag) because, like the Left in the U.S., the leftist ideology is targeting and demoralizing the actual patriots in the U.K. that flag is symbolic of, and its government and history, to pave the way for a new globalist world order, that will crush any patriots remaining. Cultural Marxist destruction of the existing order, to prepare the population for the new socialist indoctrination. The textbook definition of what Marxist insurrection does, whether as "Cultural Marxism" as the Frankfurt School developed the tactics in the 1930's, or "active measures" as termed by Soviet Russia's movement for a global Marxist revolution (i.e., Comintern) used to overthrow Western governments worldwide. By either insidious method, the goal is the same: Critical theory in various forms, to undermine the existing system.

And when you can't fully get the native population to bend to your will, you achieve a majority by importing a foreign electorate, massive immigration waves, who have no loyalty to the old order, and even a barely concealed racial hostility toward the native population, even as they accuse the natives of being racist.
The same that is occurring in nations throughout Europe, and to the United States, Canada, Brazil, Argentina, and New Zealand.

My point is that in the past, I considered Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Germany, Austria, Netherlands and other nations a potential refuge if things got politically bad in the United States. But as I thought I said clearly, these other nations are turning authoritarian or Bolshevik as fast or faster than the United States.

Right now I'd look at Sweden or Hungary or Poland as countries that have resisted the globalist authoritarian push better than others. Sweden has done better in resisting Covid mandates.
Poland and Hungary are more conservative, nationalist, and resistant to E.U. attempts to crush their national identity, attempts to overwhelm them with huge waves of third-world immigrants. You could look at Poland and say they're taking in millions of Ukrainians, but western Ukraine is essentially/historically Polish anyway. They are taking in refugees that are culturally like them.
Whereas Hungary is keeping out muslim immigrants, not admitting them, instantly deporting them.

I posted about five years ago about how Angela Merkel admitted that immigration to Germany over the last few decades has been a complete failure, That Turkish and other primarily muslim immigrants even 5 decades later are not assimilating, and are inflicting violence, crime, rapes, and islamic attacks on the native German population.
And Hungary is being reviled by other European nations as racist and nazi for not entering that suicide pact?



Regarding the Covid camps in Australia, that was widely reported about a year ago. But one Australian interviewed on the subject said that, in fairness, while the authoritarian leftist crazy politics are in effect in some southeastern left-leaning parts of Australia, you shouldn't judge the whole country by that, other areas such as Western Australia and Tasmania, are not as fanatical in their Covid containment measures.


https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-draconian-covid-policies-austrailia-the-united-states

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...mps-and-now-theyre-taking-booze-n2595615

https://www.westernjournal.com/repo...utal-police-state-thanks-covid-fascists/

In number 5 under that last Western Journal link, it cites a 47 year old guy who was arrested and put in a psych ward for just protesting and dissenting from Australia's Covid lockdown policies. These type of protests were happening in countries worldwide. But in Australia, I've seen several stories like this, where dissenters were imprisoned, not just to Covid-impaired.

I'm actually most impacted by your own anecdotes of the examples you list, from your own professional experiences and travels, or family members or clients. I'm an ironic case, because I believe very much in Second Amendment gun rights, but up until now I haven't felt a need to own a gun. But in the last few years, police protection doesn't offer the security it used to here in the U.S.
And I said roughly 20 years ago on these boards that if I owned a gun and was not carrying it, I would keep it locked in a safe at all times. For myself, I agree with that. But there are others who find that overly restrictive, and say if the gun is locked away, they could not access it quickly enough to defend their family from home invasion, or a store owner or clerk from an armed robber.

While I'm obviously strongly conservative and have antipathy toward the socialist-Marxist Left, it doesn't have to be a Leftist government in power to be authoritarian. Here in the U.S., many who are not Marxist-Left still have their reasons for enabling the Left and not resisting a turn toward authoritarianism. Generally for exploiting both sides to enrich themselves, from lobbyists and other groups who reward them. Joe Biden is the prime example of that, but the U.S. establishment on both sides are basically all one in the same club. The Bushes, the Cheneys, the Clintons, the Obamas, the Bidens, the McConnells, the Pelosis. I increasingly think of them as the inhuman creatures you see with the right sunglasses in the movie They Live.

A government doesn't have to be Leftist/Marxist to be authoritarian.
As in the example of the Patriot Act passed under George W. Bush that undermined U.S. Constitutional freedoms. I was naive at that time, with an attitude that since I haven't broken any laws I have nothing to hide. I understand now that if an authoritarian government doesn't like your politics, it can manufacture a crime just to get rid of you. (Just ask former Senator Ted Stevens, Scooter Libby, Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, George Pappadapoulos, Gen Michael Flynn, Michael Caputo, Mark Cohen, Jerome Corsi, Rick Gates, and Carter Page, to name a few. Show me the man, and I'll give you the crime.)
And then a change of power to a decidedly leftist Barack Obama, but rather than repealing the Patriot Act, Obama actually expanded those authoritarian powers. This period was the first time I saw CIA and NSA whistleblowers coming forward to say unconstitutional expansions were running wild in U.S. government agencies, going way beyond even the Patriot Act.
Then there was Edward Snowden's exposures of the extent of federal surveillance.
Then Lois Lerner and the IRS authoritarian abuses.
And ultimately, weaponizing the FBI, DOJ and CIA to spy on and launch multiple coups against candidate Trump, President Trump, and former President Trump. And weaponized IN FAVOR OF Hillary Clinton.
And ongoing to present against Trump, and in favor of the Bidens.
So even across several changes from D to R and back again, neither side seems to want to give up these extra-Constitutional new powers and restore the balance to what it was. In the case of Republicans, I think they were complacent, and are now seeing the existential threat it has become. While the Democrats are preparing for guillotines and severed heads, and eagerly carrying them in effigy in protests nationwide.

Regarding the police you discuss in various countries, just as in the U.S., it depends where you are in that country. As I linked above, there are cases where police fired tear gas and rubber bullets and pounded batons on peaceful demonstrators, just because they voice dissent about Covid policy. Or locked a guy in a psych war just because he publicly dissented and protested Australia's Covid lockdown policy and vaccine mandates. I wouldn't call that restraint and non-authoritarian.

I wish I could find the commercial (I think from 2016) of the public service ad funded by the Australian government, that urged people to turn in their guns, and threatened prison sentences to those caught holding onto their guns, ending with visuals of naked men in a prison shower, implying if you don't turn in your guns you'll be incarcerated and raped. Youtube probably deleted it because it doesn't conform to their anti-gun ideology. But it got a lot of play on Fox News, and Greg Gutfeld in particular held it up for ridicule and scorn.

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I increasingly think of them as the inhuman creatures...

Jesus fucking Christ, man. Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

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"Right now I'd look at Sweden or Hungary or Poland as countries that have resisted the globalist authoritarian push better than others. Sweden has done better in resisting Covid mandates.""

My oldest daughter lives in Sweden. It is genuinely Socialist. Cradle to grave social welfare (my daughter gets paid to study at university there - student debt is not a concept), strict gun laws, very high taxes. I don't think you'd like it there. Pretty place, though. I'm heading back in October.



"you shouldn't judge the whole country by that, other areas such as Western Australia and Tasmania, are not as fanatical in their Covid containment measures."

Here in Western Australia, we were very restrictive in our Covid measures. You needed a very, very compelling reason to enter the State. As a result, over a period of maybe two years, we had a handful of Covid community transmissions, no deaths. The purpose of doing that was twofold: our mining and energy sector would not have coped (you can't turn off an aluminium smelter of the scale and size that it is in Kwinana, and only so many bulk iron ore carriers can sit in the ocean off the coast of Karratha. I should note for context that China, Korea and Japan import most of the raw materials for their consumer products from Western Australia, which is the size of Western Europe and unlike Western Europe largely underdeveloped), and second, we have highly vulnerable remote indigenous communities who might have been wiped out by Delta).

I have never heard of anyone being imprisoned. We had extended quarantine for inbound visitors and returning citizens, locked up in hotel rooms for two weeks before being allowed to go into the community.... Oh! Actually we did imprison some people. Two guys from Melbourne got false identification to purport that they were from the Northern Territory, during a time when people from Victoria were pretty much barred from entering WA as the Delta variant was rampant in Melbourne. They wanted to see their AFL team play in the grand final, and afterwards mingled with the club. They did some time for it. I can't remember what the sentence was other than it as a period measured in weeks, not months.

I'll have a look at all of your links when I have more time on my hands. But this intrigued me: the man, "Chris", aged 47, detained in my home town of Perth in a mental ward for Covid breaches, has as its source a tweet. The source Twitter account has been suspended. The only other reference is this page, https://www.trendsmap.com/twitter/tweet/1425741718146539524 in which the post has since been deleted. There's no local news on it. Our Murdoch-owned and extensive conservative press, much of which has been scathing of lockdowns, has no mention of it. If I had to guess, I'd say the source was actually a Russian Twitter bot.



"Senator Ted Stevens, Scooter Libby, Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, George Pappadapoulos, Gen Michael Flynn, Michael Caputo, Mark Cohen, Jerome Corsi, Rick Gates, and Carter Page, to name a few. Show me the man, and I'll give you the crime."

... maybe they just committed crimes? I'm across Flynn, Manafort, Pappadapoulos, and Gates. I can't specifically remember the other names.



"I'm actually most impacted by your own anecdotes of the examples you list, from your own professional experiences and travels, or family members or clients.""

By happenstance we had a shooting in Canberra overnight. Some guy popped three bullets into a glass screen in an arrivals lounge. Seems he was mentally ill. Front page news across the country, which gives you an idea of the rarity of such events.

It is not like I can go out and buy a semi-automatic weapon. But I could get a license and buy a pistol or shotgun within the passage of a few weeks. I don't feel compelled to do so:

a. first, we have no legal right to bear arms. But even if I felt like we had a George III -type king struck by porphyria and sending in Hessian mercenaries, my shotgun is going to do very little against a tactical response group. And, fundamentally, i disagree with my government a lot of the time, but I trust my government to fundamentally do the right thing;
b. most people living in urban areas do not have guns, so I don't feel obliged to keep one to deter anyone with a gun (circular, but hopefully it makes sense);
c. we personally have dogs, so no one is likely to break into our house. Our cars, parked on the street, occasionally get broken into, and the robbers are very welcome to the half-eaten crap my kids leave in there;
d. I don't want cops randomly coming around to my house;
e. I've no inclination to take shooting or hunting up as a sport.

I'd subjectively say there's no desire in the community as a whole to own a gun.

My 2000s rabidly anti-gun stance has shifted over the years to be more tolerant, but that's because the people I have met who own guns have been absolutely ardent in keeping their guns safe - every one of them has expressed horror at the idea that their guns might be stolen and used in a crime - and our laws on gun ownership are strict but sensible.


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Lucky for you, you have a government that (so far) hasn't gone "de-fund the police", and given the criminals and crazies free run of the streets, while simultaneously withdrawing police protection, as is occurring across many cities and states across the U.S.

I've always been pro-2nd Amendment, but have never felt a need to own and carry a gun until recently. I'm still in a relatively safe (Republican, not liberal governed) part of the U.S., but I still am feeling less safe than I did even two years ago. I may soon go for concealed-carry.

I agree with you, and have for 20 years, that I would either concealed-carry a gun at all times, or keep it locked in a safe if not carrying it.

Your point about a shotgun or pistol offering no defense against a tyrannical government or an invading foreign nation makes the point of every U.S. gun owner who wants to own an AR-15 or some other military grade firearms. The second amendment is to insure Americans are safe from any hostile government, including their own. When that arms ownership disappears, the government starts being far less friendly about how that ask you for things, and at some point you inevitably become far less safe.


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