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Who are you going to vote for,Ig? Probably Hilltard if she's running again.


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Haven't nor would I vote for Hillary. I'm an ageist that has been done with people born in the 1940s at the top of the ticket since Dubya. Of those who have expressed interest or are assumed to run, I'd vote for a non-Trump Republican in the primary. As to whether I stayed as part of the coalition would depend on the Libertarian candidate. I voted Johnson in 2016 because why not in a total farce of an election and Jorgenson in 2020 because neither geriatric worldview appealed to me. She was a bland LP choice, but not necessarily a bad one as a protest vote against "the best 2020 had to offer: Biden or Trump?" 2024 may be the year I cross back over into a big party vote. One LP candidate that could keep me there is Justin Amash. He's probably ideologically closest to me.

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Originally Posted by iggy
Haven't nor would I vote for Hillary. I'm an ageist that has been done with people born in the 1940s at the top of the ticket since Dubya. Of those who have expressed interest or are assumed to run, I'd vote for a non-Trump Republican in the primary. As to whether I stayed as part of the coalition would depend on the Libertarian candidate. I voted Johnson in 2016 because why not in a total farce of an election and Jorgenson in 2020 because neither geriatric worldview appealed to me. She was a bland LP choice, but not necessarily a bad one as a protest vote against "the best 2020 had to offer: Biden or Trump?" 2024 may be the year I cross back over into a big party vote. One LP candidate that could keep me there is Justin Amash. He's probably ideologically closest to me.

In other words, you'd only vote for a Republican that can't win, or who if elected, would be an Establishment Republican who caves in to Democrat corruption.

So you only vote for candidates who win 2% or less in any given election, help the Democrats get elected, and are yourself a de facto Democrat, pretending to be above it all, and not the bitter partisan you truly are. A dishonest liberal with hidden motives.

In spite of you, Trump was elected in 2016, and was unquestionably the most accomplished president in over 50 years, who truly benefitted the entire nation, even the people who didn't even vote for him. The highest employment ever recorded for blacks and hispanics, for people under 25, the highest for women in almost 60 years, the highest ratio of home-ownership in decades, the lowest inflation, the first rise in wages for middle class and poor workers in 40 years.
Who re-built our military.
Who brought factories and jobs back to the United States.
Who brought inflation down to 1.4%, who re-negotiated international trade agreements in the U.S. favor, with virtually every nation we trade with worldwide. Who secured the southern border. Who slashed regulation, that resulted in an explosion of jobs and growth, that everyone benefitted from. All in just 4 short years, all while being maliciously prosecuted by Democrats on made-up charges, by weaponized federal agencies. Despite the enormous ratio of his time taken up by this persecution, he still accomplished all this. How much more, if he had full use of his time to do his job instead of spending a huge slice of his time in legal defense against absurd charges unleashed only to harass him, and prevent him from achieving his agenda as president. But he did it anyway.
THIS is the guy you demonize and scorn.

Justin Amash is a self-serving never-Trumper who has destroyed himself, to the point his own district would not re-elect him if he ran for it. Like John McCain, like Liz Cheney and several others, he's a guy who has built his brand as a Republican who attacks other Republicans, and basically destroys the party from within. Which is why Democrats love him. Of course you like him.

In the absence of Trump, I'd consider Ron Desantis, Kristi Noem, Rand Paul, maybe Ted Cruz. Mike Pompeo. Jim Jordan (although I'd prefer him as Speaker). Newt Gingrich, if he wanted to run again.
Lee Zeldin deserves to be RNC chair after his performance in the New York 2022 election.
But no one has proven his ability like Donald Trump, who has endured the most vicious attacks of the Democrat/Left,, for YEARS, and from the Establishment wing of his own party, and still accomplished great things. His proven ability to not be intimidated. And at this point, the Democrat-Bolsheviks are running out of new things to allege about Trump, without looking like they're obviously maliciously prosecuting him. Entering a 7th year of endless new allegations, from the Mueller investigation, from endless contrived FBI and DOJ investigations, from the New York attorney general, and from multiple U.S. attorneys in several districts investigating Trump, and yet unable, despite their malicious best efforts, to find him guilty of anything. Showing Trump to be much cleaner than anyone ever believed he is. Seven years now, of what is obvious persecution at this point, with the only point being to try and prevent him from running for president again, and to intimidate him, his aides and his voters.
But he, and we, are still here.

Trump's problem when he was inaugurated in 2017 is he was too conciliatory, too eager to be bipartisan, with a Democrat party consumed with partisan hatred, and lawless malice, a zealous Marxist-Bolshevik bloodlust to win at all cost, with absolutely no rule of law or ethics. Trump let Hillary Clinton off the hook as a peace offering to the Democrat leadership, when he should have just let DOJ prosecute her. Not maliciously as he was prosecuted, but on the clear evidence of crimes by Hillary Clinton and her staff. Selling State Department influence in exchange for millions in bribed, destroying evidence, cel phones and computers, gross negligence, endangering national seccurity with her unauthorized private server.

Trump unknowingly left Democrat/deep state officials in place who undermined him from within, for years as president. Both Democrats and Establishment Republicans. he should have fired them all the first day and replaced them with his own people, whom he could trust. It took at least 2 years of his presidency to ferret out all the moles in his administration, and never fully purged from FBI, DOJ, CIA, possibly only fully from the NSC, including fabricated whistleblowers Col. Alexander Vindman and Eric Ciaramella.
And with that lesson learned, I'm sure he'd be an even more effective president now.

Any of the candidates you would pick, Iggy, are just part of the problem, part of the corrupt system, who would sell us out and let an authoritarian socialist Bolshevik globalist cabal seize power, and steamroll over all of us, intrude on our freedoms, lock down all dissent and free thought.
You've already seen it done :
Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, and all other social media, silencing Trump and his supporters after the 2020 election. Silencing any discussion of the Hunter Biden laptop revelation, with that alone suppressing and rigging the 2020 election. Facebook and Twitter making clear it was FBI who pushed them to do the censorship, of "Russian disinformation". Right.
Imprisoning the Jan 6th protesters indefinitely in inhumane and unheard of cruel and unsanitary conditions, mere trespassers treated worse than murderers and terrorists, held indefinitely without trial.
20,000 national guard troops occupying Washington DC, from the moment Biden was inaugurated. An authoritarian power grab.
Purge of Trump supporters and Republicans (vetted secretly by FBI, NSA and even U.S. Postal Service) from all branches of the military.
Vaccine mandates, or lose your job and career (for a vaccine that doesn't even work, and a high ratio of dangerous permanently disabling side effects, and tens of thousands of deaths).
Lockdowns.
Supply chain shortages.
A Biden-staged fuel crisis, foreign energy dependency that didn't exist just 22 months ago, but now dependent on hostile foreign nations.
A corrupt war in Ukraine that never would have happened under Trump (he actually averted 2 wars that establishment advisers pushed him toward as president, in Iran and in North Korea, what other president has ever done that?)

Only Trump prevented complete lockdown of the United States and a global authoritarian "great re-set" in 2020.
No other president would have resisted and prevented that from happening. Fauci and his other advisors pushed it, Trump resisted, no one else would.
THIS guy you have contempt for.

And in 2 more years of Biden and his Democrat-Bolshevik party, I fully expect a new spike in fuel prices now that Biden has gotten past the mid-term and doesn't have to pretend he cares about un-affordable gas for his citizens.
And with spiking gas and diesel, a spike in food and everything else transported by plane, rail or truck. I wouldn't be surprised at this point by even food shortages in the U.S..
And certainly, increasing masses people who can't afford food or home heating.

And an endless war in Ukraine, at risk of escalating to nuclear war. The rocket that hit Poland in the last day could have triggered a full NATO response against Russia. Certainly, there are propagandists who did their damnedest to escalate it further The longer it continues, the greater the risk of an actual nuclear war.
And with the U.S. fully occupied in Ukraine, and our military severely weakened by Biden's mandates and purge of Republican soldiers, nothing is in place to discourage China from invading Taiwan. We are as unprepared for a war with China as we could possibly be.

And without Trump, I don't see any Democrat or Republican presidential candidate who has the vision and conviction to not be intimidated, to not capitulate to the authoritarian-globalist forces that want to crush the United States. Not one.
And a protest vote for some 1% candidate really doesn't cut it, in the face of how serious the clear above threats are.

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Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
Originally Posted by iggy
Haven't nor would I vote for Hillary. I'm an ageist that has been done with people born in the 1940s at the top of the ticket since Dubya. Of those who have expressed interest or are assumed to run, I'd vote for a non-Trump Republican in the primary. As to whether I stayed as part of the coalition would depend on the Libertarian candidate. I voted Johnson in 2016 because why not in a total farce of an election and Jorgenson in 2020 because neither geriatric worldview appealed to me. She was a bland LP choice, but not necessarily a bad one as a protest vote against "the best 2020 had to offer: Biden or Trump?" 2024 may be the year I cross back over into a big party vote. One LP candidate that could keep me there is Justin Amash. He's probably ideologically closest to me.

In other words, you'd only vote for a Republican that can't win, or who if elected, would be an Establishment Republican who caves in to Democrat corruption.

So you only vote for candidates who win 2% or less in any given election, help the Democrats get elected, and are yourself a de facto Democrat, pretending to be above it all, and not the bitter partisan you truly are. A dishonest liberal with hidden motives.

In spite of you, Trump was elected in 2016, and was unquestionably the most accomplished president in over 50 years, who truly benefitted the entire nation, even the people who didn't even vote for him. The highest employment ever recorded for blacks and hispanics, for people under 25, the highest for women in almost 60 years, the highest ratio of home-ownership in decades, the lowest inflation, the first rise in wages for middle class and poor workers in 40 years.
Who re-built our military.
Who brought factories and jobs back to the United States.
Who brought inflation down to 1.4%, who re-negotiated international trade agreements in the U.S. favor, with virtually every nation we trade with worldwide. Who secured the southern border. Who slashed regulation, that resulted in an explosion of jobs and growth, that everyone benefitted from. All in just 4 short years, all while being maliciously prosecuted by Democrats on made-up charges, by weaponized federal agencies. Despite the enormous ratio of his time taken up by this persecution, he still accomplished all this. How much more, if he had full use of his time to do his job instead of spending a huge slice of his time in legal defense against absurd charges unleashed only to harass him, and prevent him from achieving his agenda as president. But he did it anyway.
THIS is the guy you demonize and scorn.

Justin Amash is a self-serving never-Trumper who has destroyed himself, to the point his own district would not re-elect him if he ran for it. Like John McCain, like Liz Cheney and several others, he's a guy who has built his brand as a Republican who attacks other Republicans, and basically destroys the party from within. Which is why Democrats love him. Of course you like him.

In the absence of Trump, I'd consider Ron Desantis, Kristi Noem, Rand Paul, maybe Ted Cruz. Mike Pompeo. Jim Jordan (although I'd prefer him as Speaker). Newt Gingrich, if he wanted to run again.
Lee Zeldin deserves to be RNC chair after his performance in the New York 2022 election.
But no one has proven his ability like Donald Trump, who has proven his ability to endure the most vicious attacks of the Democrat/Left, and from the Establishment wing of his own party, and still accomplish great things. To not be intimidated. And at this point, they're running out of new things to allege about Trump, and not look like they're obviously maliciously prosecuting him. Entering a 7th year of endless new allegations, from the Mueller investigation, from the FBI and DOJ, from the New York attorney general, and from multiple U.S. attorneys in several districts, and yet unable, despite their malicious best efforts, to find him guilty of anything. Showing Trump to be much cleaner than anyone ever believed he is. Seven years now, of what is obvious persecution at this point, with the only point being to try and prevent him from running for president again, and to intimidate him, his aides and his voters.
But he, and we, are still here.

Trump's problem when he was inaugurated in 2017 is he was too conciliatory, too eager to be bipartisan, with a Democrat party consumed with partisan hatred, and lawless malice, a zealous Marxist-Bolshevik bloodlust to win at all cost, with absolutely no rule of law or ethics. Trump let Hillary Clinton off the hook as a peace offering to the Democrat leadership, when he should have just let DOJ prosecute her. Not maliciously as he was prosecuted, but on the clear evidence of crimes by Hillary Clinton and her staff. Selling State Department influence in exchange for millions in bribed, destroying evidence, cel phones and computers, gross negligence, endangering national seccurity with her unauthorized private server.

Trump unknowingly left Democrat/deep state officials in place who undermined him from within, for years as president. Both Democrats and Establishment Republicans. he should have fired them all the first day and replaced them with his own people, whom he could trust. It took at least 2 years of his presidency to ferret out all the moles in his administration, and never fully purged from FBI, DOJ, CIA, possibly only fully from the NSC, including fabricated whistleblowers Col. Alexander Vindman and Eric Ciaramella.
And with that lesson learned, I'm sure he'd be an even more effective president now.

Any of the candidates you would pick, Iggy, are just part of the problem, part of the corrupt system, who would sell us out and let an authoritarian socialist Bolshevik globalist cabal seize power, and steamroll over all of us, intrude on our freedoms, lock down all dissent and free thought.
You've already seen it done :
Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, and all other social media, silencing Trump and his supporters after the 2020 election. Silencing any discussion of the Hunter Biden laptop revelation, with that alone suppressing and rigging the 2020 election. Facebook and Twitter making clear it was FBI who pushed them to do the censorship, of "Russian disinformation". Right.
Imprisoning the Jan 6th protesters indefinitely in inhumane and unheard of cruel and unsanitary conditions, mere trespassers treated worse than murderers and terrorists, held indefinitely without trial.
20,000 national guard troops occupying Washington DC, from the moment Biden was inaugurated. An authoritarian power grab.
Purge of Trump supporters and Republicans (vetted secretly by FBI, NSA and even U.S. Postal Service) from all branches of the military.
Vaccine mandates, or lose your job and career (for a vaccine that doesn't even work, and a high ratio of dangerous permanently disabling side effects, and tens of thousands of deaths).
Lockdowns.
Supply chain shortages.
A Biden-staged fuel crisis, foreign energy dependency that didn't exist just 22 months ago, but now dependent on hostile foreign nations.
A corrupt war in Ukraine that never would have happened under Trump (he actually averted 2 wars that establishment advisers pushed him toward as president, in Iran and in North Korea, what other president has ever done that?)

Only Trump prevented complete lockdown of the United States and a global authoritarian "great re-set" in 2020.
No other president would have resisted and prevented that from happening. Fauci and his other advisors pushed it, Trump resisted, no one else would.
THIS guy you have contempt for.

And in 2 more years of Biden and his Democrat-Bolshevik party, I fully expect a new spike in fuel prices now that Biden has gotten past the mid-term and doesn't have to pretend he cares about un-affordable gas for his citizens.
And with spiking gas and diesel, a spike in food and everything else transported by plane, rail or truck. I wouldn't be surprised at this point by even food shortages in the U.S..
And certainly, increasing masses people who can't afford food or home heating.

And an endless war in Ukraine, at risk of escalating to nuclear war. The rocket that hit Poland in the last day could have triggered a full NATO response against Russia. Certainly, there are propagandists who did their damnedest to escalate it further The longer it continues, the greater the risk of an actual nuclear war.
And with the U.S. fully occupied in Ukraine, and our military severely weakened by Biden's mandates and purge of Republican soldiers, nothing is in place to discourage China from invading Taiwan. We are as unprepared for a war with China as we could possibly be.

And without Trump, I don't see any Democrat or Republican presidential candidate who has the vision and conviction to not be intimidated, to not capitulate to the authoritarian-globalist forces that want to crush the United States. Not one.
And a protest vote for some 1% candidate really doesn't cut it, in the face of how serious the clear above threats are.

No one cares about your fantasies. That's why you and your cult keep losing elections and having to scream about fraud and theft.

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Originally Posted by iggy
Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
Originally Posted by iggy
Haven't nor would I vote for Hillary. I'm an ageist that has been done with people born in the 1940s at the top of the ticket since Dubya. Of those who have expressed interest or are assumed to run, I'd vote for a non-Trump Republican in the primary. As to whether I stayed as part of the coalition would depend on the Libertarian candidate. I voted Johnson in 2016 because why not in a total farce of an election and Jorgenson in 2020 because neither geriatric worldview appealed to me. She was a bland LP choice, but not necessarily a bad one as a protest vote against "the best 2020 had to offer: Biden or Trump?" 2024 may be the year I cross back over into a big party vote. One LP candidate that could keep me there is Justin Amash. He's probably ideologically closest to me.

In other words, you'd only vote for a Republican that can't win, or who if elected, would be an Establishment Republican who caves in to Democrat corruption.

So you only vote for candidates who win 2% or less in any given election, help the Democrats get elected, and are yourself a de facto Democrat, pretending to be above it all, and not the bitter partisan you truly are. A dishonest liberal with hidden motives.

In spite of you, Trump was elected in 2016, and was unquestionably the most accomplished president in over 50 years, who truly benefitted the entire nation, even the people who didn't even vote for him. The highest employment ever recorded for blacks and hispanics, for people under 25, the highest for women in almost 60 years, the highest ratio of home-ownership in decades, the lowest inflation, the first rise in wages for middle class and poor workers in 40 years.
Who re-built our military.
Who brought factories and jobs back to the United States.
Who brought inflation down to 1.4%, who re-negotiated international trade agreements in the U.S. favor, with virtually every nation we trade with worldwide. Who secured the southern border. Who slashed regulation, that resulted in an explosion of jobs and growth, that everyone benefitted from. All in just 4 short years, all while being maliciously prosecuted by Democrats on made-up charges, by weaponized federal agencies. Despite the enormous ratio of his time taken up by this persecution, he still accomplished all this. How much more, if he had full use of his time to do his job instead of spending a huge slice of his time in legal defense against absurd charges unleashed only to harass him, and prevent him from achieving his agenda as president. But he did it anyway.
THIS is the guy you demonize and scorn.

Justin Amash is a self-serving never-Trumper who has destroyed himself, to the point his own district would not re-elect him if he ran for it. Like John McCain, like Liz Cheney and several others, he's a guy who has built his brand as a Republican who attacks other Republicans, and basically destroys the party from within. Which is why Democrats love him. Of course you like him.

In the absence of Trump, I'd consider Ron Desantis, Kristi Noem, Rand Paul, maybe Ted Cruz. Mike Pompeo. Jim Jordan (although I'd prefer him as Speaker). Newt Gingrich, if he wanted to run again.
Lee Zeldin deserves to be RNC chair after his performance in the New York 2022 election.
But no one has proven his ability like Donald Trump, who has endured the most vicious attacks of the Democrat/Left, and from the Establishment wing of his own party, and still accomplished great things. Who was never intimidated. And at this point, they're running out of new things to allege about Trump, and not look like they're obviously maliciously prosecuting him. Entering a 7th year of endless new allegations. From the Mueller investigation, from the FBI and DOJ, from the New York attorney general, and from multiple U.S. attorneys in several districts, and yet unable, despite their malicious best efforts, to find him guilty, or even frame him, of anything. Showing Trump to be much cleaner than anyone ever believed he was. Seven years now, of what is obvious persecution at this point, with the only point being to try and prevent him from running for president again, and to intimidate him, his aides and his voters.
But he, and we, are still here.

Trump's problem when he was inaugurated in 2017 is he was too conciliatory, too eager to be bipartisan, with a Democrat party consumed with partisan hatred, and lawless malice, a zealous Marxist-Bolshevik bloodlust to win at all cost, with absolutely no rule of law or ethics. Trump let Hillary Clinton off the hook as a peace offering to the Democrat leadership, when he should have just let DOJ prosecute her. Not maliciously as he was prosecuted, but on the clear evidence of crimes by Hillary Clinton and her staff. Selling State Department influence in exchange for millions in bribed, destroying evidence, cel phones and computers, gross negligence, endangering national seccurity with her unauthorized private server.

Trump unknowingly left Democrat/deep state officials in place who undermined him from within, for years as president. Both Democrats and Establishment Republicans. he should have fired them all the first day and replaced them with his own people, whom he could trust. It took at least 2 years of his presidency to ferret out all the moles in his administration, and never fully purged from FBI, DOJ, CIA, possibly only fully from the NSC, including fabricated whistleblowers Col. Alexander Vindman and Eric Ciaramella.
And with that lesson learned, I'm sure he'd be an even more effective president now.

Any of the candidates you would pick, Iggy, are just part of the problem, part of the corrupt system, who would sell us out and let an authoritarian socialist Bolshevik globalist cabal seize power, and steamroll over all of us, intrude on our freedoms, lock down all dissent and free thought.
You've already seen it done :
Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, and all other social media, silencing Trump and his supporters after the 2020 election. Silencing any discussion of the Hunter Biden laptop revelation, with that alone suppressing and rigging the 2020 election. Facebook and Twitter making clear it was FBI who pushed them to do the censorship, of "Russian disinformation". Right.
Imprisoning the Jan 6th protesters indefinitely in inhumane and unheard of cruel and unsanitary conditions, mere trespassers treated worse than murderers and terrorists, held indefinitely without trial.
20,000 national guard troops occupying Washington DC, from the moment Biden was inaugurated. An authoritarian power grab.
Purge of Trump supporters and Republicans (vetted secretly by FBI, NSA and even U.S. Postal Service) from all branches of the military.
Vaccine mandates, or lose your job and career (for a vaccine that doesn't even work, and a high ratio of dangerous permanently disabling side effects, and tens of thousands of deaths).
Lockdowns.
Supply chain shortages.
A Biden-staged fuel crisis, foreign energy dependency that didn't exist just 22 months ago, but now dependent on hostile foreign nations.
A corrupt war in Ukraine that never would have happened under Trump (he actually averted 2 wars that establishment advisers pushed him toward as president, in Iran and in North Korea, what other president has ever done that?)

Only Trump prevented complete lockdown of the United States and a global authoritarian "great re-set" in 2020.
No other president would have resisted and prevented that from happening. Fauci and his other advisors pushed it, Trump resisted, no one else would.
THIS guy you have contempt for.

And in 2 more years of Biden and his Democrat-Bolshevik party, I fully expect a new spike in fuel prices now that Biden has gotten past the mid-term and doesn't have to pretend he cares about un-affordable gas for his citizens.
And with spiking gas and diesel, a spike in food and everything else transported by plane, rail or truck. I wouldn't be surprised at this point by even food shortages in the U.S..
And certainly, increasing masses people who can't afford food or home heating.

And an endless war in Ukraine, at risk of escalating to nuclear war. The rocket that hit Poland in the last day could have triggered a full NATO response against Russia. Certainly, there are propagandists who did their damnedest to escalate it further The longer it continues, the greater the risk of an actual nuclear war.
And with the U.S. fully occupied in Ukraine, and our military severely weakened by Biden's mandates and purge of Republican soldiers, nothing is in place to discourage China from invading Taiwan. We are as unprepared for a war with China as we could possibly be.

And without Trump, I don't see any Democrat or Republican presidential candidate who has the vision and conviction to not be intimidated, to not capitulate to the authoritarian-globalist forces that want to crush the United States. Not one.
And a protest vote for some 1% candidate really doesn't cut it, in the face of how serious the clear above threats are.

No one cares about your fantasies. That's why you and your cult keep losing elections and having to scream about fraud and theft.


Y'know, it's hilarious that you constantly accuse me of living in a "cult", when it is clearly YOU who lives in a fantasy world cult of Democrat fake narrative media sources (like Washington Post, New York Times, Politico , NBC and CNN ), who have been PROVEN to be liars, have had to retract story after story, had to fire reporters and anchors and producers who embarrassed their networks and papers so much when exposed, who have so egregiously and deliberately gotten the actual evidence and political events wrong, in their fanatical zeal to defame and politically damage Trump and Republicans. In their fanaticism to protect and prop up the narratives of the Democrat party.

YOU live in a fantasy world.
Clearly, PROVABLY.
There are reporters who received Pulitzers for their "investigative journalism" at WP and N Y Times for their coverage of the Russia Collusion narrative, that is now PROVEN to be a false narrative. And yet... why have they not returned their awards for reporting anti-Trump narratives that were clearly false?
How stupid are you. How indoctrinated, to not question sources that have lied to you over and over ?

And again, because you are such a pinhead in denial, who is apparently utterly immune to the facts in front of you, here is award-winning journalist and anchor Sharyl Attkisson, formerly of CNN and CBS for decades, who resigned from those networks because she was disgusted with their decline in journalistic ethics over the last 12 years, since Obama was elected. Here she is again at Hillsdale College giving a lecture on the decline in journalism standards :
Sharyl Attkisson, at Hillsdale college

She cites chapter and verse specific examples of the mainstream news media where they were deliberately factually wrong, and deliberately lied to zombies like you who will believe whatever they say, no matter how many times these networks are proven to have deliberately gotten the story wrong, over and over.

The latest example is an NBC reporter who reported that Paul Pelosi in his underwear opened the door for police, before walking back over to homeless gay attacker / lover David DePape (also in his underwear), and a third person in the room with them. For reporting these facts, this reporter was suspended, and NBC removed the report from NBC's website, with absolutely no explanation. No one has seen this reporter since, and he is apparently in NBC Witness Protection. He was suspended for the crime of telling the truth about Paul Pelosi, instead of propping up the rest of the Democrat-subservient media's lying narrative.

Even when these narratives are exposed, you still worship them as truth, and rage on me for not abandoning reality to exalt the media lies that you, in your willful ignorance, desperately cling to as "truth".

Sorry that reality and facts are so difficult for you to digest and comprehend.
Get psychological help. Please.

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Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
Sharyl Attkisson


She jumped down the same dumb rabbit hole as you years ago. You like her because she tells you what you want to hear. Somebody does that and you'll swear loyalty to them like a serf to his lord.

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Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
Sharyl Attkisson


She jumped down the same dumb rabbit hole as you years ago. You like her because she tells you what you want to hear. Somebody does that and you'll swear loyalty to them like a serf to his lord.

In other words, you're a malicious deceitful liar, and you have absolutely no possible response to the extensive examples of journalistic malpractice she cites.
Malpractice, that you worship as if it were gospel truth and factual. It's not. She has deconstructed in ornate detail why the mainstream narrative you cling to is absolute lies.
DELIBERATE lies.

You are frigging clueless.

More examples :

"Is Fake News a Myth?" - Sharyl Attkisson - Hillsdale College, April 11 2018


Cry harder, loser.

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Such misplaced anger in one's life must suck. Eh, masochistic sycophant?

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Originally Posted by iggy
Such misplaced anger in one's life must suck. Eh, masochistic sycophant?

?!?
YOU'RE the one getting upset, I'm just citing the facts that you're in denial about.
I'm actually having quite a good time, watching your head explode with partisan hate as you try to process those facts. Trump's candidacy is great news, except to unhinged maniacs like you.

You do realize I'm only channeling your own hate back at you, right?
Moron.

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Sure, JQ Wall-of-Ignorant-Text-Guy. Sure, you aren't frothing at the mouth at all. Ooooookkkkkaaaaaayyyyy!

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Originally Posted by iggy
Sure, JQ Wall-of-Ignorant-Text-Guy. Sure, you aren't frothing at the mouth at all. Ooooookkkkkaaaaaayyyyy!


Uh... should I point out how clearly angry, emotional and unhinged you are?
Cry harder, loser. cry

Hey, what could I possibly post to make Iggy's unhinged liberal head further explode?


Yeah, that about covers it.
God forbid you should process the facts in front of you. Or admit how stupid you look denying them.
Moron.

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Good Christian Wonder Doofus yanking it in the women forum and raging against those who disagree with him politically. Again, exactly why the movements you are a part of are failing...bigly!

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Originally Posted by iggy
panic panic Nya nya nya, you're a poopy-face. Fuck you, fuck your mother, asshat, doofus, etc., etc. panic panic

5 million more voted Republican than Democrat in the 2022 mid-terms.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/morris-trump-mcconnell/2022/11/14/id/1096340/
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...in-house-races-but-relatively-few-seats/
You completely lie about the down-ballot expansions nationwide of Republican seats, in New York state, in Florida, in Texas, in state legislatures, in local elections, eliminating critical race theory in schools. Many of which were previously Democrat for 40 years, or in one case in Texas, 130 years.
And Republicans do have a House majority.

The only Republicans who are unpopular are the RINO Republicans who betray their voters and vote in lockstep with the Democrats (Susan Collins, Mitt Romney, Lisa Murkowski, Liz Cheney, Justin Amash, etc.) They are essentially fake-Republican trojan-horse Democrats, sabotaging the Republican party from within.

As I quoted Tucker Carlson (among many others who have made the same observations) he said that Republican leaders (specifically Mitch McConnell, Kevin McCarthy and Ronna McDaniel) were given hundreds of millions in campaign funds to paint the map red in Nov 2022, and because they did not deliver, they should all be fired and replaced. These 3 Republican leaders withheld millions in campaign funds from candidates like Don Bolduc, Adam Laxalt, Blake Masters and others, who even without help only narrowly lost. And these 3 Republican leaders funded Democrat candidates in Republican-sheeps' clothing like Lisa Murkowski WHO VOTE CONSISTENTLY WITH DEMOCRATS, AND EVEN ENDORSED DEMOCRAT CANDIDATES, over Tshibaka who they should have funded. And with millions of McConnell GOP funds in ads to slander Tshibaka and prop up Murkowski, Tshibaka still narrowly won. These McConnell-caucus RINO traitors would rather be a Republican minority, than support Trump-endorsed MAGA Reagan-conservative Republicans WHO ACTUALLY REPRESENT Republican voters.

It is not Republicans who failed, they still got the desired goal of a House majority, to open and control House investigations, to cut off House-controlled federal spending for Democrat-Bolshevik projects, and to obstruct any further Democrat-Bolshevik crazy new trillions in spending legislation, and prevent further Democrat authoritarian over-reaches of power.
Would I have liked a Republican Senate majority too? Yeah. Sure. But the primary goal was reached, Republican House control, that at least severely limits Democrat-Bolshevism for the next 2 years. And the field is set for a very good 2024, where the Senate elections map far more favors Republicans.

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McCONNELL AND McCARTHY USED DEMOCRAT/LEFTIST FTX DONATIONS TO UNDERMINE AND DEFEAT TRUMP-SUPPORTED CANDIDATES





That should underscore how corrupt and unworthy of support McConnell, McCarthy and the establishment Republicans are. As this continues to be exposed, that will only further make the case for a Trump candidacy in 2024.

These are Republicans who secretly made war on Republican candidates, in secret alliance with the Democrat/Left. A secret Democrat wing within the Republican party, exposed. Clearly undermined the will of ACTUAL conservative voters in Nov 2022.
It just further makes the case for Trump in 2024.

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An exec gave to Republicans while other execs gave to Democrats. Oh...my...fucking...GOD!!! How dare people be independent minded?!?

::eyeroll::

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Originally Posted by iggy
An exec gave to Republicans while other execs gave to Democrats. Oh...my...fucking...GOD!!! How dare people be independent minded?!?

::eyeroll::

An unethical corporate executive DNC donor, who has lost the fortunes of more people than Bernie Madoff.
A corporate executive donor whose digital currency has been used as a money laundering vehicle by Democrats. That the Biden administration has given $91 billion in aid to Ukraine (among the most corrupt countries on earth, for at least a decade), that Ukranian officials then put roughly 10% of those funds into a corrupt crypto-currency (FTX) , that was donated (laundered) into dark money as $40 million dollars to Democrat candidates in the Nov 2022 U.S. midterm elections.

That's money laundering, influence peddling, and arguably an attempt to overthrow the United States by foreign interference in our elections. It's the Democrats giving money to Ukraine, to give back to themselves. It at least warrants a House investigation, if not a special investigation. The Democrat leaders involved should each be arrested by FBI agents in front of a crowd at an airport, and escorted out in leg irons. A treatment normally reserved for innocent Trump officials, or January 6th protesters only guilty of trespassing. Save that treatment for Democrat officials, who are actually guilty of crimes.

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Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
::pointless indignant anger wanking::

You guys talk a lot of smack to fail at getting them in court...

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Originally Posted by iggy
Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
::pointless indignant anger wanking::

You guys talk a lot of smack to fail at getting them in court...

Another semi-literate attempt on your part at forming a sentence.

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Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
My first and pretty much only language is agitprop.

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Originally Posted by iggy
Originally Posted by Wonder Boy (As fake-scripted by Iggy)
My first and pretty much only language is agitprop.

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agitprop < aj- it-prop >
noun
1. Political propaganda, especially favoring communism and disseminated through literature, drama, art, or music.
2. agitation and propaganda; -- used especially for such activities carried out on behalf of communist activists.
3. a person who disseminates messages calculated to assist some cause or some government; one disseminating agitprop{1}. Also called agitpropist.

Wow. A little unexpected honesty.

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Trump and Desantis.

My attitude from the beginning has been that Trump is the tried and tested candidate, , quantifiably the most accomplished president in over 50 years.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pu...shments_compiled_in_shockingly_long_list
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...ps-already-completed-faster-than-reagan/

And while I somewhat like Desantis he never would have become governor, to achieve what he has, without Trump's endorsement. Desantis should have set his sights on a 2028 run.
And I think in a recent interview, Trump makes a case for his hostility toward Desantis, that he sees Desantis as a bit sneakiy and disloyal in how he launched his campaign in an attempt to dislodge Trump as the 2024 candidate, not even being honest privately beforehand with Trump that he was going to run. It manifests Desantis is untrustworthy.

It further repels me from Desantis that the first person to endorse Desantis was Jeb Bush, a guy who's the quintessence of the Establishment Republicans, and how every other RINO in the party has similarly endorsed Desantis, as has Fox News (in its fully revealed CNN-wannabee new anti-Trump version, that mirrors the other mainstream media in its blackout of any Trump coverage). That to me says Desantis would become a full RINO along the lines of Mitt Romney, Lindsey Graham, John Cornyn, and Mitch McConnell if elected, and betray the conservatives who voted for him. Desantis might end up being a great president, but that is what these early warning signs indicate.

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