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Monday, October 23, 2023

Provider Alert: Florida State Surgeon General Issues New Guidance for Recently Approved COVID-19 Boosters
Health care providers encouraged to discuss with patients lack of human clinical trial data, research demonstrating unfavorable COVID-19 vaccine results

Tallahassee, Fla. – On September 13, 2023, the State Surgeon General issued guidance on the recently approved mRNA COVID-19 boosters. Health care providers are expected to include information found in this guidance in discussions with their patients regarding the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines.

Based on the high rate of global immunity and currently available data, the State Surgeon General recommends against the COVID-19 booster for individuals under 65. Individuals 65 and older should discuss this information with their health care provider, including potential concerns outlined in this guidance.

Providers and patients should be aware of outstanding safety and efficacy concerns:

Studies across geographic regions have found that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are associated with negative effectiveness after 4 to 6 months. As efficacy waned, studies showed that COVID-19 vaccinated individuals developed an increased risk of infection. This is not found in other vaccines, including the flu vaccine.
The mRNA COVID-19 vaccines present a risk of subclinical and clinical myocarditis, and other cardiovascular conditions among otherwise healthy individuals.
There is unknown risk of potential adverse impacts with each additional dose of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine; currently individuals may have received five to seven doses (and counting) of this vaccine over a 3-year period.
Elevated levels of spike protein from the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine persist among some individuals for an indefinite period of time, which may carry health risks.
“Once again, the federal government is failing Americans by refusing to be honest about the risks and not providing sufficient clinical evidence when it comes to these COVID-19 mRNA shots, especially with how widespread immunity is now,” said State Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo. “In Florida, we will always use common sense and protect the rights and liberties of Floridians, including the right to accurate information.”

To access the Guidance for COVID-19 Boosters, please click here.
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About the Florida Department of Health
The Florida Department of Health, nationally accredited by the Public Health Accreditation Board, works to protect, promote and improve the health of all people in Florida through integrated state, county and community efforts.

Bottom line:
The Democrat-Bolsheviks who run our federal government have not been honest with you about the effectiveness or safety of Covid-19 vaccines for 3 years now, so Florida is giving you fair warning of facts that neither the federal government or George Orwell's liberal media/social media will ever tell you.
Swim at your own risk.

I personally know 2 people who have suffered immeasurably from "safe" Covid vaccines.
One is a second cousin of mine who was a perfectly healthy and beautiful girl, 23, who got terrible blood clots in her legs from the vaccine, was hospitalized, among other symptoms, and will require regular and expensive physical therapy in the aftermath for the rest of her life.
Another is an AT&T service repairman about my age who was about to retire, but the side effects of the vaccine hospitalized him and caused $200,000 in medical expenses, forcing him to scrap his retirement plans and return to work.

The sales guy who sold me my last cel phone about a year ago told me his neighbor, a Broward County sheriff, and his gorgeous brunette wife, were vacinnated. To his astonishment, the sheriff, a very muscular bodybuilder who he described to me as "a human tank", quickly died from the vaccine, and his beautiful wife survived, but was hospitalized in intensive care for several weeks before she recovered.

If I knew about cases like this when I was vaccinated in early 2020, I never would have taken the vaccine.
At least now, some information is getting past the Orwellian wall of what we're able to know and think.

And I'm grateful to be in the most free of the 50 states (with the possible comparable exceptions of Texas and South Dakota).

That is all.

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I haven't exactly been interested in getting jabbed since the first booster, but you sound absolutely guano-headed.

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If William in school wants to be called Will parents have to fill out a form in Florida. There’s a lot more regulation in Florida it seems to me that seems to be about control it’s citizens.


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Originally Posted by iggy
I haven't exactly been interested in getting jabbed since the first booster, but you sound absolutely guano-headed.

More of your weird slang terminology that no one understands.

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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
If William in school wants to be called Will parents have to fill out a form in Florida. There’s a lot more regulation in Florida it seems to me that seems to be about control it’s citizens.

Like giving Florida citizens the facts about Covid vaccine risks and ineffeciveness, and letting then CHOOSE FREELY, FULLY UNDERSTANDING THEIR OPTIONS, rather than being forced to take a mandatory vaccine without fully understanding its ineffectiveness and risks, as they would in New York, Michigan, California, and other Democrat soviet socialist states?

The form you talk about is unfamiliar to me, but it sounds like it has to do with parents being informed and giving consent, before things they don't agree with are forced on their children.

As opposed to under-age minors being indoctrinated and brainwashed/confused into transgender weirdness that fucks them up for life, or even transgender surgery FOR CHILDREN, with parents completely unaware what is going on.

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You understand that these boosters are not mandatory at the federal level?

Florida surgeon general altered key findings in study on Covid-19 vaccine safety
“ TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo personally altered a state-driven study about Covid-19 vaccines last year to suggest that some doses pose a significantly higher health risk for young men than had been established by the broader medical community, according to a newly obtained document.

Ladapo’s changes, released as part of a public records request, presented the risks of cardiac death to be more severe than previous versions of the study. He later used the final document in October to bolster disputed claims that Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines were dangerous to young men.
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So he altered a study to support what he wanted it to say. You should follow his advice for sure, lol


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Originally Posted by Wonder Boy, basically
It isn't lying if it is what I want to be true. You're lying!

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Originally Posted by iggy
Originally Posted by Wonder Boy, basically
It isn't lying if it is what I want to be true. You're lying!


Iggy making up fake quotes, because he has no facts on his side, just pure hatred.
Because that's the kind of vicious lying jerk he is.

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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
You understand that these boosters are not mandatory at the federal level?

Florida surgeon general altered key findings in study on Covid-19 vaccine safety
“ TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo personally altered a state-driven study about Covid-19 vaccines last year to suggest that some doses pose a significantly higher health risk for young men than had been established by the broader medical community, according to a newly obtained document.

Ladapo’s changes, released as part of a public records request, presented the risks of cardiac death to be more severe than previous versions of the study. He later used the final document in October to bolster disputed claims that Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines were dangerous to young men.
…”

So he altered a study to support what he wanted it to say. You should follow his advice for sure, lol

Uh, there are literally millions of soldiers, officers, special forces, military contractors, other federal employees, police officers, firefighters, doctors, nurses and other hospital staff, as well as private sector employees for businesses large and small nationwide, WHO HAVE lost their jobs precisely because of Biden's Covid vaccine mandate, where refusal of the vaccine caused their instant termination.

Many of these employees are suing for unfair termination, lost wages, back pay and other compensation. Madates, by the way, for a vaccine that
1) Doesn't prevent infection,
2) doesn't prevent spread of Covid to other people,
3) has more side effects than all other current vaccines combined, and
4) has more side effects than any vaccine in over 40 years, and the last vaccine was withdrawn from the market in the late 1970's, whereas the Covid vaccine is left out there to inflict injury on even more people, because political elites are profiting from the vaccine, including Fauci and others within the NIH and CDC.

I don't care about some Newspeak press release, it is a fact that tens of thousands, if not millions of Americans, have suffered injury and death from the Covid vaccine, And many only vaccinated because of Biden's Covid mandates, that if they weren't vaccinated they would lose their jobs.

While Trump remained president , it was always a person's option to look at the vaccine data, weigh the risks, and make a CHOICE whether they wanted to be vaccinated.
Under Biden, that choice was taken away. and that mandate forced many to be injured, crippled or killed by the vaccine. Politico just sells a narrative that it's no as many as the Florida surgeon general says, but UNDENIABLY, thousands have died or been injured by the vaccine. Period. And there are tens of thousands who say the Covid vaccine caused their injuries that federal medical authorities, statistics, and Politico, ignore. Just to sell the false narrative they want.

And don't tell me otherwise, I know people this happened to. I know people who were severely injured by the vaccine. I myself got vaccinated because I would not be able to work or board a plane without being vaccinated.
Don't pee on me and tell me it's raining.

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Do you feel safer when a republican surgeon general alters key findings to fit your politics? The federal government isn’t mandating it anymore. And I was in and out of the hospital with my late husband while he was fighting cancer. I don’t feel sorry for anyone that wasn’t willing to vaccinate while working in a hospital then.


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Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
Originally Posted by iggy
Originally Posted by Wonder Boy, basically
It isn't lying if it is what I want to be true. You're lying!


Iggy making up fake quotes, because he has no facts on his side, just pure hatred.
Because that's the kind of vicious lying jerk he is.

You're a pseudo intellectual that can't fathom a truth beyond his few sacred sources. Again, this why I don't take you seriously and don't bother arguing. You're a dunce that read Mollie Hemingway and thinks it gives you special insight. It doesn't. Nothing you've read has. That's why I laugh at you derisively.

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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Do you feel safer when a republican surgeon general alters key findings to fit your politics? The federal government isn’t mandating it anymore. And I was in and out of the hospital with my late husband while he was fighting cancer. I don’t feel sorry for anyone that wasn’t willing to vaccinate while working in a hospital then.

That dodges the fact that they mandated Covid vaccines for over 2 years !

AND that millions of people lost their jobs because of it, and didn't get their jobs back.
Precisely because it was a Democrat plot to purge conservatives from the military, federal contractor positions, and other federal, state and local government jobs.

AND a lot of the people injured were NOT from going unvaccinated, it was often from injury PRECISELY FROM side effects of the vaccine.
I already told you I know two severely injured from the vaccine, one who will require physical therapy for the rest of her life. And that I know of two others a salesman told me were neighbors of his, one of whom, despite being a very healthy police officer, DIED from the vaccine.
The Covid vaccine is proven to have more dangerous side effects than any vaccine in 45 years, quantifiably resulting in tens of thousands of adverse, permanent or fatal reactions. And reports I've seen are that those actually reporting dangerous side effects have mostly been silenced, unreported and discounted, and that the actual number of people injured from the vaccine may truly number into the hundreds of thousands.

I don't give a fuck about Democrat or Republican surgeon generals, I care about who is giving factual information.
And clearly Anthony Fauci and the weaponized NIH and CDC are NOT giving us factual information. They used Covid fear for political purposes, to purge dissenters, and to rig the 2020 election with unnecessary mail-in ballots. I voted in person, as did many.


Fauci lied about the origins of Covid. CDC had shut down Fauci's "gain of function" research inside the U.S.
But Fauci re-opened the research and subcontracted it to Wuhan, China, funding it under fake NIH accounting to hide that he had done it.
Fauci lied about the origins of Covid, fronting for 2 years it spread randomly from a wet market in Wuhan, when HE KNEW it was his research that caused it, and in private emails with other virologists worldwide who discussed the Covid-19 novel virus did not appear natural but lab-created, he acknowledge that.
FACT.
We only found out because Judicial Watch subpoenaed his email communications with these other virologists. FACT.

Fauci lied about wearing surgical masks. First he said they were unnecessaary, then 2 months later he said you HAD to wear a mask for protection from Covid. He publicly admitted he lied so that a limited number of masks would be available for hospital use. But the truth is, Covid masks (either cloth or N-95 masks) in multiple studies have proven to provide ZERO protection from Covid. The virus is small enough to pass right through the mask. Studies across dozens of nations have proven this.
But moron Democrat zealots still wear them in stores. It is at this point either deliberate ignorance, or just virtue signaling that you believe in the Fauci cult.
One pundit called face masks "the MAGA hat of the Left".

Fauci and other deep state CDC officials directly profit from Remdesivir (that doesn't work and has fatal effects), and so it is prescribed by CDC recommended protocol for hospitalized Covid victims, despite that it is very expensive, but provides no benefit. European nations have banned Remdesivir.

And because there is no profit for them at CDC in inexpensive anti-virals Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin, they discourage their use, and intimidate medical professionals who do use them (with high success) for Covid treatment. Despite that these two drugs have been proven safe and been widely in use worldwide for decades, treating Malaria, West Nile Virus, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Lyme disease and other illnesses. But somehow when used for Covid treatment, tthey are banned as unsafe. That is George Orwell's CDC in action.

You have a remarkable capacity to believe false narratives, and avoid the facts abundantly in front of you.
It's not about whether the information comes from an "R" or a "D", it's about whether the information has proven to be true or not.

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Originally Posted by iggy
Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
Originally Posted by iggy
Originally Posted by Wonder Boy, basically
It isn't lying if it is what I want to be true. You're lying!


Iggy making up fake quotes, because he has no facts on his side, just pure hatred.
Because that's the kind of vicious lying jerk he is.

You're a pseudo intellectual that can't fathom a truth beyond his few sacred sources. Again, this why I don't take you seriously and don't bother arguing. You're a dunce that read Mollie Hemingway and thinks it gives you special insight. It doesn't. Nothing you've read has. That's why I laugh at you derisively.

All you have is profanity and insults, no facts.
Your purpose is to harass anyone who disagrees with you, not debate facts and discern what the truth is.

Which is why I don't take YOU seriously. You're a deranged, angry malicious jerk. And utterly immune to facts. You just parrot liberal-media and state propaganda, that has been PROVEN to be factually inaccurate and deliberately wrong, to prop up a false narrative that, being the Leftist moron you are, you desperately cling to and want to believe.

John Stossel.
Sharyl Attkisson.
Lara Logan.
Ron Kessler.
Glenn Greenwald.

And more. Quite a few award-winning journalists, who have left the mainstream media you worship, because they believe in objective journalism, and have walked away from 7-figure news positions in the mainstream media because they refuse to become a part of the Orwellian propaganda machine the media have become, whose venom you eagerly drink every day.
Dipshit.

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Again, like with the other reply, "no, I'm the one that doesn't take you seriously" is bitch material, bitch.

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WB you make it abundantly clear it does matter to you if it’s an R or a D. Your surgeon general altered data so it would fit his and his boss’s politics on Covid. That’s what you’re really about and it just seems so foolish to me. Everyone should be supportive of the best data available but apparently calling facts you don’t like newspeak makes it a settled matter for maga world.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
WB you make it abundantly clear it does matter to you if it’s an R or a D. Your surgeon general altered data so it would fit his and his boss’s politics on Covid. That’s what you’re really about and it just seems so foolish to me. Everyone should be supportive of the best data available but apparently calling facts you don’t like newspeak makes it a settled matter for maga world.

You seem to have bypassed the part I said about WHO IS PROVEN TO BE TELLING THE TRUTH.
Period.

If it were the Republican-led CDC who had turned out to be lying about all the aspects of Covid-19 origins and vaccines and mandates, I would be forced to admit that had proven to be wrong.
But it WASN'T the Republicans who were wrong, it was the Democrats. Factually proven and undeniable.

And yet you still cling to and prop up the fully disproven Fauci/liberal-media/Democrat lying talking points.

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Originally Posted by iggy
Again, like with the other reply, "no, I'm the one that doesn't take you seriously" is bitch material, bitch.

Translated:

Originally Posted by Iggy
panic panic Nyah nyah nyah, You're a poopy-face. Fuck you, fuck your mother, asshat, doofus etc., etc. panic panic

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Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
WB you make it abundantly clear it does matter to you if it’s an R or a D. Your surgeon general altered data so it would fit his and his boss’s politics on Covid. That’s what you’re really about and it just seems so foolish to me. Everyone should be supportive of the best data available but apparently calling facts you don’t like newspeak makes it a settled matter for maga world.

You seem to have bypassed the part I said about WHO IS PROVEN TO BE TELLING THE TRUTH.
Period.

If it were the Republican-led CDC who had turned out to be lying about all the aspects of Covid-19 origins and vaccines and mandates, I would be forced to admit that had proven to be wrong.
But it WASN'T the Republicans who were wrong, it was the Democrats. Factually proven and undeniable.

And yet you still cling to and prop up the fully disproven Fauci/liberal-media/Democrat lying talking points.

Altering data to fit a political narrative isn’t telling the truth though. That’s what your surgeon general did.


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Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
Everything that disagrees with me is Fauci/liberal-media/Democrat lying talking points yet I inexplicably demand that other people take my patent unseriousness seriously.

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Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
WB you make it abundantly clear it does matter to you if it’s an R or a D. Your surgeon general altered data so it would fit his and his boss’s politics on Covid. That’s what you’re really about and it just seems so foolish to me. Everyone should be supportive of the best data available but apparently calling facts you don’t like newspeak makes it a settled matter for maga world.

You seem to have bypassed the part I said about WHO IS PROVEN TO BE TELLING THE TRUTH.
Period.

If it were the Republican-led CDC who had turned out to be lying about all the aspects of Covid-19 origins and vaccines and mandates, I would be forced to admit that had proven to be wrong.
But it WASN'T the Republicans who were wrong, it was the Democrats. Factually proven and undeniable.

And yet you still cling to and prop up the fully disproven Fauci/liberal-media/Democrat lying talking points.

Altering data to fit a political narrative isn’t telling the truth though. That’s what your surgeon general did.


Where I have PROVEN the lies and malice of both the CDC and the liberal media, you allege with no evidence that the Florida surgeon general ( and in vague weaselly language, maybe Republicans and conservative media?) are "Altering data to fit a political narrative isn’t telling the truth".
I just made clear that tens of thousands of vaccinated males in their teens and 20's have had heart attacks and myocardiac incidents immediately after getting a covid vaccine.
And that many medical professionals say there are actually hundreds of thousands of such incidents that are suppressed from being reported by Democrat-Bolsheviks in the medical community and federal/CDC agencies.
FACT.
Just as it is a FACT that doctors nationwide say there is pressure on them to label hospital deaths as from Covid, often when evidence does NOT show the person died of Covid, and their jobs are threatened if they don't comply. Which obviously skews statistics on Covid deaths.

We've all seen the videos of male athletes collapsing on a football or soccer field, attributed DIRECTLY to Covid vaccination they received within 2 weeks of collapsing.

We've all seen hearings testimony of mothers with their formerly healthy teen daughters, who hours after receiving the vaccine developed permanent neurological disorders, severe pain, incontinence and inability to walk, that will make them dependents on special care for the rest of their lives.

You, and other Democrat propagandists, only try to weasel the issue and say that "Well, it's not as many injured by Covid vaccination as the surgeon general says."
But it is UNDENIABLY the most toxic vaccine, that has hurt more people than all other current adverse vaccine reactions combined.
It is UNDENIABLY the most disastrous vaccine in 45 years.
It has UNDENIABLY injured tens of thousands of people, in the U.S. alone.
There is FAR more supporting evidence for what I, and the Florida surgeon general, have factually said about Covid vaccines and the risks they present. To the point that states and foreign nations are discontinuing vaccines, or at least ceasing to mandate them. They have proven not only ineffective, but dangerous.

There is not "alteration of data" by the Florida surgeon general, those are just plain facts.

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Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
Everything that disagrees with me is Fauci/liberal-media/Democrat lying talking points yet I inexplicably demand that other people take my patent unseriousness seriously.

More fake quotes, because you have nothing factual to say....

No, dipshit.

The FACTS support what I say. There are many in Washington who would like to prosecute Fauci for his crimes.
Senator Rand Paul, for one. Who by the way, is a doctor himself. As are several other House and Senate Republicans who want to prosecute Fauci. Fauci's subpoenaed emails with other virologists, where he was admitting privately what he was simultaneously saying publicly, Fauci's cooking the books and secretly re-starting gain-of-function research that the CDC already stopped, and moving it secretly to the Wuhan Research lab in China, using hidden illegal funding, ARE ALL FACTS.

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You’ve shown that the facts don’t matter to you WB. Your surgeon general altered findings to fit his and the governor’s politics. That’s not good medicine wether you actually believe the accusations you so easily make.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
You’ve shown that the facts don’t matter to you WB. Your surgeon general altered findings to fit his and the governor’s politics. That’s not good medicine wether you actually believe the accusations you so easily make.

No.

The Florida surgeon general stated the factual case of injuries from the Covid vaccine.
You and the Left only insinute, without proof that the Florida surgeon general somehow exaggerated what is already factually proven, of the many cases of myocarditis, heart attacks, permanent neurological damage, and DEATHS caused directly by the Covid vaccine. More adverse and crippling reactions than to any other vaccine in 45 years.
AND the vaccine neither prevents infection to the vaccinated, or prevents spread of Covid to others.

Those are the facts.

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At the risk of being redundant, this is why no one takes you seriously.

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Yup, there is no insinuation from the left. His altering key findings of the study was revealed in a public records request. Nor is he denying he did it. Altering findings is acceptable to WB like stealing an election is.


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Originally Posted by iggy
panic At the risk of being redundant, this is why no one takes you seriously panic.
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Yup, there is no insinuation from the left. His altering key findings of the study was revealed in a public records request. Nor is he denying he did it. Altering findings is acceptable to WB like stealing an election is.

My cited sources, your insults and fake narratives.

Lather, rinse, repeat.





https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34746732/


This last one...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ne-adverse-events-unverified/9103381002/

...cites the numbers from VAERS, and then attempts to de-bunk them:

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"The Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System, known as VAERS, reports that as of Dec. 24, there were 21,002 COVID vaccine deaths and 110,609 hospitalizations along with a total of 1,000,227 COVID vaccine adverse events," the article reads.

As evidence, WorldNetDaily cites OpenVAERS, a website that "posts publicly available CDC/FDA data of injuries reported post-vaccination." A USA TODAY analysis of VAERS data confirms those numbers, which include adverse event reports for all COVID-19 vaccines in any location worldwide.

However, there are nearly 300,000 fewer results when searching for adverse events reported in the U.S. and its territories.

"As of December 24, 2021, there were 709,085 reports of adverse reactions after COVID-19 vaccination in VAERS," Martha Sharan, a CDC spokesperson, told USA TODAY in an email.

But again, those reports alone are not proof of "COVID-vaccine injuries" or "COVID vaccine deaths," as WorldNetDaily claims.

So they're reported, but are not accepted as fact unless some Orwellian liberal propaganda source confirms them?!?
And if liberal sources like CNN, MSNBC, Yahoo News, Huffington Post, New York Times, Washington Post, Politico, etc., just selectively ignore them because they are inconvenient to their narrative, THEN what?

They were reported. Period. Whether George Orwell's liberal media acknowledges it or not.

OAN frequently reported in 2021-2022 that reports by vaccinated people to medical authorities were swept under a rug and ignored, and were tenfold the Covid vaccine deaths and permanent disabilities officially recognized.


The sweetest part of the deal for Pharmaceutical companies making billions off the vaccine is that under "Emergency Use Authorization Act" is that when people DO have an adverse reaction, they are free of any responsibility or liability.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/gover...nconstitutional-lawsuit-says-2023-10-10/
Whether your "official" numbers, or the numbers I just presented. There ARE adverse reactions from the Covid vaaccine that cause permanent injury or death, and more such injuries and deaths than any vaccine since the late 1970's.
Absolute FACT.


New data is out on COVID vaccine injury claims.
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But the CDC missed its deadline. A spokesperson cited a delay in “the technical and administrative processes” necessary to post on the agency’s website, but said it hopes to have the information up by late November or early December.

In the meantime, the CDC handed over the v-safe data (minus personal identifying information) to the plaintiff in the FOIA case, the Informed Consent Action Network, or ICAN, a Texas-based nonprofit that says it opposes "medical coercion" in favor of individual healthcare choices.
ICAN crunched the numbers on its own and came up with some statistics that its lawyer says appear to be "alarming."

According to ICAN, 7.7% of the v-safe users -- 782,913 people -- reported seeking medical attention via a telehealth appointment, urgent care clinic, emergency room intervention or hospitalization following a COVID-19 vaccine.

About 25% of v-safe users said they experienced symptoms that required them to miss school or work or prevented them from doing other normal activities, according to ICAN’s “dashboard” that summarizes the results.

And posted just a few days ago...

COVID VACCINE INJURY SUIT MAY FUEL OVERHAUL , LITIGATION

More statistics of Covid vaccine injured people, cited by their lawyers.
More statistics for you to pretend don't exist. That's a lot of permanently injured people.
And as OAN cites, probably still just the tip of the iceberg.

So Florida's attorney general is not making stuff up, he is citing what medical authorities and the piece-of-shit liberal media refuse to confirm, either to prop up a liberal media Democrat narrative, or for those medically responsible to avoid compensating those injured.

There's a lot of people over 65 who died within a 2-week period after being vaccinated, that many in power want to slough off as "natural causes", but who in all likelihood died from the vaccine.
And there are many women in their teens and 20's, perfectly healthy before, who now have permanent neurological crippling injuries.
And likewise males in the same age group who were either hospitalized or dropped dead from myocarditis. Many of them caught on video and televised. Some of them professional athletes who collapsed during a game.

So the Florida surgeon general is absolutely NOT making stuff up. There are up to a million reported injuries from the vaccine, and many more unreported.
Even the "official" statistics that don't acknowledge all these injuries, STILL show thousands who had adverse reactions, permanent injuries and deaths from the Covid vaccine.

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Defending "unknown risks" by accusing others of Orwellianism is peak daffy, duck...

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Originally Posted by iggy
Defending "unknown risks" by accusing others of Orwellianism is peak daffy, duck...

That wasn't even a coherent literate sentence.

Let alone a factual and lucid argument that comes anywhere close to disproving the extensive facts and statistics I just posted.

BOTTOM LINE:
The vaccine neither prevents Covid infection, nor prevents is spead to other people.
The vaccine is the most dangerous vaccine on the market since the 1970's. It has caused PROVEN large numbers of injuries and deaths in the tens of thousands, and suppressed reporting that possibly numbers up to 1 million adverse reactions and deaths. FACT. Cited and sourced, with precise numbers.
The Florida surgeon general simply cites those facts. even the lower number of reported cases shows he is not making up anything, that it is quantifiably the most dangerous vaccine put on the market in 45 years.



DR. ROBERT MALONE, INVENTOR of mRNA TECHNOLOGY, URGES REMOVING COVID VACCINE FROM MARKET
https://news.yahoo.com/single-most-qualified-mrna-expert-173600060.html

No one too important, just the guy WHO INVENTED the mRNA vaccine technology. His being banned from Twitter, just proves it is about authoritarian narrative raher thaan facts. Hundreds of medical experts like him have been silenced on social media, and fired from universities and hospitals, just for daring to tell the truth.

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I checked Wikipedia on him…
“ In November 2021, Malone shared a deceptive video on Twitter that falsely linked athlete deaths to COVID-19 vaccines. In particular, the video suggested that Jake West, a 17-year-old Indiana high school football player who succumbed to sudden cardiac arrest, had actually died from COVID-19 vaccination. However, West had died years earlier, in 2013, due to an undiagnosed heart condition. Malone deleted the video from his Twitter account after receiving a cease-and-desist letter from West's family. Malone later said on Twitter that he did not know the video was doctored.[38] On December 29, 2021, Twitter permanently suspended Malone from its platform, citing "repeated violations of our COVID-19 misinformation policy",[39][40] after he shared on that platform a video about supposed harmful effects of the Pfizer vaccine.[41][42] In an April 1, 2022 interview, Malone made the unfounded claim that COVID-19 vaccines are "damaging T cell responses" and "causing a form of AIDS". Malone claimed that he had "lots of scientific data" to back up his claim, but did not cite evidence.[43] In July 2022, Malone, along with two other doctors, filed a lawsuit against Twitter for suspending their accounts, alleging a "breach of contract."[44]”

There is lots more but I think that gives you an idea of his ethics.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
I checked Wikipedia on him…
“ In November 2021, Malone shared a deceptive video on Twitter that falsely linked athlete deaths to COVID-19 vaccines. In particular, the video suggested that Jake West, a 17-year-old Indiana high school football player who succumbed to sudden cardiac arrest, had actually died from COVID-19 vaccination. However, West had died years earlier, in 2013, due to an undiagnosed heart condition. Malone deleted the video from his Twitter account after receiving a cease-and-desist letter from West's family. Malone later said on Twitter that he did not know the video was doctored.[38] On December 29, 2021, Twitter permanently suspended Malone from its platform, citing "repeated violations of our COVID-19 misinformation policy",[39][40] after he shared on that platform a video about supposed harmful effects of the Pfizer vaccine.[41][42] In an April 1, 2022 interview, Malone made the unfounded claim that COVID-19 vaccines are "damaging T cell responses" and "causing a form of AIDS". Malone claimed that he had "lots of scientific data" to back up his claim, but did not cite evidence.[43] In July 2022, Malone, along with two other doctors, filed a lawsuit against Twitter for suspending their accounts, alleging a "breach of contract."[44]”

There is lots more but I think that gives you an idea of his ethics.

That of course is the Democrat narrative, that the liberal media sells the public.

Even the co-founder of Wikipedia has said that Wikipedia has devolved into a "liberal propaganda site", that props up that Leftist narrative.
https://nypost.com/2021/07/16/wikip...opaganda-for-left-leaning-establishment/

THE FACT REMAINS that the Covid-19 vaccines have had more adverse effects, permanent injuries and deaths than any vaccine on the market since the late 1970's.
FACT.
Whether those adverse cases number in the tens of thousands(the official numbers) , or around the million mark (the suppressed actual numbers).
Covid-19 vaccines have injured FAR more people than any other vaccines combines, and I quoted and linked he exact numbers from VAERS and elsewhere above. No mater how many times you try to deflect from those quoted exact numbers, to change the narrative.

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So your source had to be served a cease and desist letter from a deceased kid’s family to stop lying about the cause of their child’s death. And your reply is to say that’s the liberal narrative? The truth shouldn’t be determined by politics WB. And that’s the problem with a lot of what you claim as fact once I start digging. Altered data and just out and out lying.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
So your source had to be served a cease and desist letter from a deceased kid’s family to stop lying about the cause of their child’s death. And your reply is to say that’s the liberal narrative? The truth shouldn’t be determined by politics WB. And that’s the problem with a lot of what you claim as fact once I start digging. Altered data and just out and out lying.

Dr Robert Malone is the creator of mRNA vaccine technology. He is not maliciously slandering anyone, he is trying to save lives. And if one family wants to keep their anonymity and not be in the public spottlight, so be it. It certainly doesn't mean Dr. Malone is any less an expert in his field. Just that the family either wantss to quietly move on, or is afraid of becoming a target by the same cabal that are attacking Dr. Robert Malone.

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And...

Originally Posted by WB
These are doctors, nurses, and researchers who have struggled to provide effective life-saving care for patients, even as they were ordered by their hospitals and the state to provide medicines and therapies that don't work. At the threat of losing their jobs, their medical practice licenses, and their careers if they didn't comply. But many courageously provided that quality care and liost their jobs, to defy treatment that was aimed at maximizing profit and following a false narrative, rather than saving lives.

These are highly qualified doctors, and highly published and referenced doctors, FOR DECADES, who are not easily dismissed as "conspiracy theorists" or quacks. There's a lot of good information here. The hearings are 5 hours total.

Once again OAN was the only network to broadcast these hearings in their entirety (and re-broadcast them two more times over the last week). The other networks barely, if at all, even mentioned them. Not even Fox News or Newsmax. Which only diminishes my trust in the latter 2 networks.
Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
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In case Youtube follows its usual tendency to censor dissenting opinion and truth, here is the same program on the Rumble site.

This is a 38-minute highlights version
https://rumble.com/vtamrn-covid-19-a-second-opinion-shorter-highlight-video.html

And here is the full 5-hour version:
https://rumble.com/vt7uj3-covid-19-a-second-opinion-full-panel-discussion.html



https://www.ronjohnson.senate.gov/covid
And here is Sen. Ron Johnson's website, linking his efforts to get out word of effective medical treatment since the beginning of the pandemic in Jan 2020, often met with censorship by Youtube, Facebook, Twitter, CNN and MSNBC, either propagandized as a "conspiracy theorist", a promoter of false information, or mocked by CNN and MSNBC's self-discrediting insults and namecalling.

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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
So your source had to be served a cease and desist letter from a deceased kid’s family to stop lying about the cause of their child’s death. And your reply is to say that’s the liberal narrative? The truth shouldn’t be determined by politics WB. And that’s the problem with a lot of what you claim as fact once I start digging. Altered data and just out and out lying.

Dr Robert Malone is the creator of mRNA vaccine technology. He is not maliciously slandering anyone, he is trying to save lives. And if one family wants to keep their anonymity and not be in the public spottlight, so be it. It certainly doesn't mean Dr. Malone is any less an expert in his field. Just that the family either wantss to quietly move on, or is afraid of becoming a target by the same cabal that are attacking Dr. Robert Malone.

Their child died in 2013 well before Covid WB.


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From your own posted Wikipedia quote, M E M...

Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
I checked Wikipedia on him…
“ In November 2021, Malone shared a deceptive video on Twitter that falsely linked athlete deaths to COVID-19 vaccines. In particular, the video suggested that Jake West, a 17-year-old Indiana high school football player who succumbed to sudden cardiac arrest, had actually died from COVID-19 vaccination. However, West had died years earlier, in 2013, due to an undiagnosed heart condition. Malone deleted the video from his Twitter account after receiving a cease-and-desist letter from West's family. Malone later said on Twitter that he did not know the video was doctored.[38] On December 29, 2021, Twitter permanently suspended Malone from its platform, citing "repeated violations of our COVID-19 misinformation policy",[39][40] after he shared on that platform a video about supposed harmful effects of the Pfizer vaccine.[41][42] In an April 1, 2022 interview, Malone made the unfounded claim that COVID-19 vaccines are "damaging T cell responses" and "causing a form of AIDS". Malone claimed that he had "lots of scientific data" to back up his claim, but did not cite evidence.[43] In July 2022, Malone, along with two other doctors, filed a lawsuit against Twitter for suspending their accounts, alleging a "breach of contract."[44]”

There is lots more but I think that gives you an idea of his ethics.

cross-pollenate with :

DHS officials created a 'disinformation group' at Stanford University to help censor Americans' speech on social media ahead of the 2020 election, bombshell emails reveal

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_Files


How much more evidence do you need of an Orwellian federal/social media abuse of what they term "disinformation", that has proven to be true.
The vaccine DOES NOT prevent covid.
The vaccine DOES NOT prevent spread of the virus to others.
The vaccine DOES have more adverse side effects than any vaccine on the market in over 45 years. Whether it is in the tens of thousands or in the range of 1 million, these adverse effects, myocarditis, neurological problems, sudden death, ARE A FACT.

AGAIN: There are tens of thousands injured by the Covid vaccine.
My 29-year old 2nd cousin who was permanently disabled by blood clots caused by the vaccine, who requires daily physical therapy, my mother told me over the weekend aftter speaking to her, she has resigned to the fact she is dying and over the last week, and has selected her cremation urn. And you're too busy trying to prop up a false narrative to acknowledge this is the reality for at least tens of thousands, and plenty of suppressed evidence that those injuries are actually closer to 1 million in the U.S. alone.

I told you that I know an A T &T repairman roughly the same age as me, and he was about to retire, but the adverse reaction he had to the vaccine caused him to be hospittalized for weeks, and cost him $200,000 im medical bills, depleting his retirement savings to the point that he has to remain working.

And though I don't know them personally, the agent who sold me my cel phone told me that his very healthy and muscular Broward sheriff neighbor died from the vaccine, and his previously healthy and beautiful wife survived but was hospitalized for several weeks and is still not the same.

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Posting a doctored video to depict a dead child from 2013 as dying from getting a Covid vaccine is a false narrative. Likewise a surgeon general altering data to fit their beliefs.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Posting a doctored video to depict a dead child from 2013 as dying from getting a Covid vaccine is a false narrative. Likewise a surgeon general altering data to fit their beliefs.

I notice the tendency that you avoid the over-arching credibility of Dr. Robert Malone, and his correct position that
1) the covid vaccine does not prevent infection, UNDISPUTABLY
2) that the Covid vaccine does not prevent others from being infected, UNDISPUTABLY
3) That the vaccine has adverse effects greater than all other vaccines on the market combined, UNDISPUTABLY, more than any vaccine in over 45 years, UNDISPUTABLY
4) that he is the creator and auhority on mRNA vaccine technology, UNDISPUTABLY

and yet you dig for some footnote to discredit him.

And I notice doing a duckduckgo search on Malone, that all the people bashing him are on the liberal narrative side :New York Times, Washington Post, Politico, Factcheck, Politifact, Yahoo News, Huffington Post, Wikipedia...

All the same Orwellian liberal media sources who were wrong about the Covid vaccine, PROVEN wrong 3 years later, are he same sources ganging up to discredit Dr.. Malone.

Look again at the 5-hour medical panel hosted by Senator Ron Johnson that I linked. All these doctors and researchers were leaders in their fields and on he boards of universities and hospitals. And despite that they were giving treatments that were more effective and saving a greater raio of covid-infected people, they were fired, discredited, and blocked on Facebook, Twitter, Facebook, Youtube and other platforms, NOT because they were wrong, but just to silence them, to prop up a false narrative.

I'm inclined to believe he is discredited for political reasons, than because he is actually wrong.
And in that 5-hour video, there are dozens like him. Unfairly fired, discreditted, and censored. To hide tht they were right.

https://www.ronjohnson.senate.gov/2...-on-injuries-caused-by-covid-19-vaccines

https://brownstone.org/articles/the-defenestration-of-dr-robert-malone/

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/disease/dr-robert-malone-is-still-fighting/

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We don't need the crazy links posted to know how much farther you've plunged down the rabbit hole, wack-a-doodle. Get help.

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Clearly WB plays using the rules for radicals. No problem with data being altered or doctored videos to present a lie. What matters is a partisan battle of us vs them.


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Originally Posted by iggy
We don't need the crazy links posted to know how much farther you've plunged down the rabbit hole, wack-a-doodle. Get help.

Links aren't "crazy", they are evidence and sourced facts.
Your absolute immunity to facts outside of mainstream media propaganda and PROVEN lies is duly noted.

All you have is personal insults and spite, no facts.
Dipshit.

Originally Posted by M E M
Clearly WB plays using the rules for radicals. No problem with data being altered or doctored videos to present a lie. What matters is a partisan battle of us vs them.

Likewise, you are immune to facts tha don't fit your Democrat-Bolshevik propaganda narrative. I gave the EXACT NUMBERS AND SOURCE for he numbers I cited, and the bottom lime is, like a true Bolshevik, you just ignore it and continue fronting your lie.
Originally Posted by .Originally Posted by Moscow Central Committee, 1943
Members and front organizations must continually embarass, discredit and degrade our critics. When obstructionists become too irritating, label them as fascist, or Nazi or anti-semitic... he association will, after enough repetitiion, become "fact" in the public mind.

The entire Democrat party is not about facts or doing the right thing, it's all about narrative and slandering their political opposition, whatever it takes to seize or preserve their power and control, by whyatever deceitful means, no matter who those lies destroy.

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