best quality i could find. apparently the christmas special is called "the next doctor" and will feature a future incarnation of the Doctor. which is kind of interesting since we've always seen Doctor team ups from the perspective of the later Doctor.
I read in LITG that the guy who played the Marquis de Carabas in Gaiman's Neverwhere series is gonna be the next Doctor. Gaiman admitted in his blog that he created de Carabas as his own version of the Doctor, since he didn't think he'd ever get to write the series.
Weird. It hasn't been announced whether Tennant (current Doc) is even leaving the series yet. I highly doubt anyone knows who the next Doctor will be. Got a link for this?
My last couple of Doctor Who leaks were fairly solid — Neil Gaiman to write 2010 “Doctor Who” and Tom Baker returning to the series proper in an unnamed role. Both have been bubbling under ever since. The next one is not so tied down. It’s still rather up in the air. But it’s quite a possibility.
The sixth series of “Doctor Who” (2011) will star Paterson Joseph as The Doctor.
Previously playing Roderick in the “Doctor Who” episodes “Bad Wolf”/”Parting Of Ways,” Joseph is known for fine upstanding and terribly-well-spoken-dontcha-know roles as Johnson in “Peep Show,” the Marquis De Carabas in “Neverwhere,” Space Marshall Clarke in “Hyperdrive,” Lyndon in “Green Wing”…
…and more importantly Benjamin in “Jekyll.” Written and produced by upcoming “Doctor” Who showrunner, Steven Moffat.
If true, it’s a great call on Moffat’s part. A damn fine call. Paterson has a very British Authority approach to many of his characters, comparable with Jon Pertwee. It’s not a traditional choice, but then neither was Christopher Eccleston. And, like I say, it’s bloody brilliant.
This rumour is obviously an amber light story for now, but it could well change colour in the months to come.
And, as it appears, so could the Doctor.
It's marked amber, which means the rumor isn't confirmed.
Ah, gotcha! I like Patterson. I thought he rocked in Jekyll. But, I'm not going to believe this until it happens.
And I have neither heard nor read any official confirmation about Gaiman's involvement in Who, nor Tom Baker's return. So, I don't see how either rumor could be considered "solid"...
the Tardis would probably get pulled over more with a black Doctor. he also might be asked to pay first at any intergalactic dennys. also g-man will call him a muslim.
Yeah, I don't mind giving Tennant a year out from under the cheese-factory that was RTD. But, I think he needs to wrap it up soon, if he plans to go out "on top". I'm also ready for a new, hopefully less-manic, Doctor. I miss Eccles. He had so much more potential in the role...
Yeah, I would have liked to see more Eccleston, the first half of his series particularly he was excellent! I knew he was only ever a one series guy tho. he was using it as a stepping stone to, um, a couple of episodes of Heroes, some shit films and... um...
Yeah, I know you're a Tennant fan. I don't know. I guess the reason I like Eccles so much is because he was so utterly far from what I pictures in the role of The Doctor. The thing is, it worked (at least for me). He was the incarnation racked with survivor's guilt, sorrow, and a burning intensity. It was because of Eccles's ability to bring the intensity across that I actually understood when someone feared the Doctor in this form. Eccles proved for me that you can do a "dark" Doctor, and make it soar.
I love Tennant fine, as I would any and every incarnation of the character. However, he just lacks the ability to convince me of any heavy emotion. While Eccleston was The Doctor, Tennant comes off to me as an actor playing The Doctor. But, that's just me. There's a bazillion Who fans out there that believe Tennant is the second-coming of Tom Baker. And they could be right. But, not for me...
Pro, you do realise Tennant is an actor playing the part of The Doctor, and the Doctor isnt real, yeah?
Eccleston, for my money, didnt act, just like he rarely acts. He just tends to go in and be Eccleston in every role he does, with very little variety. Just look at his role in Heroes, its almost a carbon copy of his version of The Doctor.
Tennant though, the simple fact that he can overcome a Scottish accent (something Eccleston has never been able to do with his Northern accent), shows to me, that Tennant puts in more effort.
and i say that without being a homophobe as it was GAY
a clone doctor goes back with rose
Sarah's silly kid show is crossovered
TORCHWOODs touching all WHO taboos also crossing over
WHAT WAS THE POINT?!!?!?!?!?!?
A SMEGGING RED DWARF CROSSOVER WOULD HAVE MADE MORE SENSE ONLY BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVEBEEN FUN!!!!!!!!!
the last season finale was so awfully contrivived that ANYONE who didnt like Eccleston should be shot....as his dismissal was likewise contrived for Tennants arrival...not that I dont like Tennant but feel that even more than Colin Bake and Sylvester McCoy he was given a raw deal and deserved a MUCH longer trial as MY doctor....
Prior the return of Doctor Who McCoy was my favorite.......Eccelston will reign forever as my favorite as he was not given his due
Pro, you do realise Tennant is an actor playing the part of The Doctor, and the Doctor isnt real, yeah?
*shock-and-sadness* :0
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Eccleston, for my money, didnt act, just like he rarely acts. He just tends to go in and be Eccleston in every role he does, with very little variety. Just look at his role in Heroes, its almost a carbon copy of his version of The Doctor.
I didn't see any of Number 9 in Claude, personally. Something that actually disappointed me, as I love to see him be The Doctor. However, understand I had never even heard of Eccleston before he was cast as the Ninth Doctor. Had to Google him to see what he even looked like. I wasn't expecting much, but I'm happy that I got so much more from him.
For those that have watched Eccles in other roles, I'm sure there's a different perspective. But, the anonymity of him was perfect (for me) to play The Doctor.
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Tennant though, the simple fact that he can overcome a Scottish accent (something Eccleston has never been able to do with his Northern accent), shows to me, that Tennant puts in more effort.
Nah, I don't agree. Just because Eccles likes to play roles in his native accent doesn't show me anything except that he has national pride. I can respect that, actually. I wish Tennant had played it with is natural accent, just as Piper's weird "f instead of t" pronunciations throw me off.
Understand, Tennant is a good Doctor. One of the best in the history of the show. But, I just felt more from Eccleston. He brought real, sincere emotion to the role. Tennant just screams a lot, and then all of a sudden he goes 'emo-face' and that's supposed to express sadness. I just don't buy it (although he did a fine job as the human John Smith in Human Nature/Family of Blood).
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interesting, to me Tennant disapears intot he role more than Ecclestone, he's the one I would say I could see acting quite often.
I understand that point, just as I understand Cunty's perspective. I've got a few friends who feel the same way (that Eccles is playing The Doctor, and Tennant is The Doctor). I guess for me, the tortured, leather-clad, hellbent-for-danger, adrenaline-junkie that was the 9th Doctor was the first "new" incarnation of the character I had seen since Peter Davison. He was something completely original. Whereas, Tennant is zany, and quick-witted, and funny, and frantic, and manic, and all those things that make the 10th Doctor shine. But...I've seen him before. He's playing an amalgamation of previous Doctors. Eccles seemed to harness just himself in the role, much like Tom Baker did back in the day. And that's one of those comparisons I've always found fault with, when fans say Tennant is "the next Tom Baker". Nonsense. If anyone is truly the heir-apparent to the scarf-donned deity of the 4th Doctor, it's Christopher Eccleston.
But, that's all just my opinion...
Originally Posted By: Franta
All right then
Ive had enough beers
and enough free time
to say
the last season finale
was very GAY
and i say that without being a homophobe as it was GAY
a clone doctor goes back with rose
Sarah's silly kid show is crossovered
TORCHWOODs touching all WHO taboos also crossing over
WHAT WAS THE POINT?!!?!?!?!?!?
A SMEGGING RED DWARF CROSSOVER WOULD HAVE MADE MORE SENSE ONLY BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVEBEEN FUN!!!!!!!!!
See, I didn't really mind the finale that much. I agree, there was some serious bad writing in there. Some very contrived scenes, and some forced characterization. RTD threw too much in at once and couldn't juggle the plot (per usual).
I hated the clone Doctor. But, from what I've read, RTD wrote that bit with Eccleston's 9th Doctor in mind. And if you watch it from that perspective, I can see where Tennant was channeling his inner Eccles for that bit.
But, it was fucking silly, overall.
The Davros stuff was fucking a-w-e-s-o-m-e. Best Davros ever. Seriously.
The crossovers were hit-or-miss. Torchwood was fine, Sarah-Jane herself was fine. But, like you say, the kid was too much, and I didn't need to see Martha's mother again. Glad they included Harriet Jones, Jackie, and Mickey, as well.
But, enough with Rose. I'm fucking sick of her and I hope we never see her again.
What pissed me off the most was the faux-regeneration crap. I don't like the idea of messing around with that stuff. It opens up too many questions and problems. If he's going to regenerate, it should be a special occasion with the actor leaving, NOT just for a cliffhanger. That's the kind of RTD stuff that grates me.
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the last season finale was so awfully contrivived that ANYONE who didnt like Eccleston should be shot....as his dismissal was likewise contrived for Tennants arrival...not that I dont like Tennant but feel that even more than Colin Bake and Sylvester McCoy he was given a raw deal and deserved a MUCH longer trial as MY doctor....
Prior the return of Doctor Who McCoy was my favorite.......Eccelston will reign forever as my favorite as he was not given his due
I would agree, except from what I understand it was Eccles decision to leave the show. I think he had certain ideas about working with RTD after Second Coming, and when he found out about the farting, and space pigs, and the like, he realized that Davies wasn't going to try to include any real substance in the show and decided to move on. The BBC screwed him over, though, when they broke their word and started making excuses to the press about why he was leaving (fear of typecasting, fatigue, etc). All of it was nonsense and lies, so he gave them the finger and has probably destroyed any hopes of ever getting him back into the role for an anniversary special. So, if you want to be pissed at the BBC about anything with Eccles, THAT would be the reason...
I just dont think Eccleston had any intention of doing more than one series, right from the off. I'd also hazard a guess that he had to be persuaded to play The Doctor in the first place, as he likes to be seen as a "serious" actor. (although rumour has it he emailed Davis to be put on the list)
He's much the same as Chris Barrie from Red Dwarf IMO, in so far that he thought he was big enough to just walk away from the show, and jump into much bigger roles. In fact, he has already admitted in interviews, that he was never a fan of Doctor Who, which once again sugests, he never really had any respect for the role, and just wanted something that might be able to further his career.
Unlike Barrie, he couldnt come crawling back when he ended up no better off than when he started.
As for the accent thing, I dont think its national pride, I think its just his inability to adapt to any non-northern roles. I dont hate Eccleston, I just think some people put him on too much of a pedestal for his so called "acting" abilities!
I just dont think Eccleston had any intention of doing more than one series, right from the off. I'd also hazard a guess that he had to be persuaded to play The Doctor in the first place, as he likes to be seen as a "serious" actor. (although rumour has it he emailed Davis to be put on the list)
According to the Confidential specials they show after each episode, RTD said that he was shocked when Eccleston (of all people) emailed him asking to be considered for the role. Now, how much that is media spin, I don't know.
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He's much the same as Chris Barrie from Red Dwarf IMO, in so far that he thought he was big enough to just walk away from the show, and jump into much bigger roles. In fact, he has already admitted in interviews, that he was never a fan of Doctor Who, which once again sugests, he never really had any respect for the role, and just wanted something that might be able to further his career.
Unlike Barrie, he couldnt come crawling back when he ended up no better off than when he started.
I don't know. You're probably right. I do know that one of the reasons he stated he wanted to do it because he was tired of people thinking of him as a "miserable cunt". But, it's not like he has stopped doing movies and stuff, before and after Who. He was the "Dark Rider" character in that Harry Potter-wannabe movie last year, and he's currently filming as Destro for GIJOE I believe. So, I guess it could be seen, either way.
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As for the accent thing, I dont think its national pride, I think its just his inability to adapt to any non-northern roles.
You're probably right. I've never heard him even try to do something different in any other role, so I don't know. He probably can't.
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I dont hate Eccleston, I just think some people put him on too much of a pedestal for his so called "acting" abilities!
I'm the same with Tennant.
As I stated before, I think Chris can bring across intensity and gravitasp in any role. I think that is what he does best, you know? Other than that, I've never studied him enough to know whether he deserves an oscar or anything...
I dont hate Eccleston, I just think some people put him on too much of a pedestal for his so called "acting" abilities!
I'm the same with Tennant.
As I stated before, I think Chris can bring across intensity and gravitasp in any role. I think that is what he does best, you know? Other than that, I've never studied him enough to know whether he deserves an oscar or anything...
But most people dont put Tennant on a pedestal for his acting abilities, they enjoy him because he is more lighthearted and zany, thus a more approachable character. This also adds more of a "shock" factor (for want of a better word) when he does something dark. With Eccleston it never came as a surprise when he was more dark and moody!
The other thing with Tennant is that he appeals more to kids, and at the end of the day, thats the core audience that Who was designed for!
But most people dont put Tennant on a pedestal for his acting abilities, they enjoy him because he is more lighthearted and zany, thus a more approachable character.
Perhaps. But, many of the ones I'm speaking of think he's the best actor to take the reigns of the character.
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This also adds more of a "shock" factor (for want of a better word) when he does something dark. With Eccleston it never came as a surprise when he was more dark and moody!
Difference is, I actually bought it when Eccleston did it. He convinced me of the dark-n-moody (because he's a better actor), whereas Tennant "acts" or "shows me" the dark-n-moody...
From the BBC Tennant is off after the specials, no real surprise there! Aint it Cool has the usual unoriginal ideas about the next doctor in talk back, though I did like the McCain/Palin if they lose the election suggestion. I suspect she may Take the Doctor role and him the assistant...
I, as always, want them to go with someone without a massive profile who is very different from the last, if not all the previous Doctors. And I despair for all the fuckwits who suggest "bring Tom Baker back"
Yeah, I read this last night. I think he did a great job as Doc #10, and like all the others before him, I look forward to letting him go and seeing what Doc #11 will offer us. I don't expect them to cast anyone older, certainly. But, I hope they can get away from the "zany" and "manic" aspects for a new incarnation.
Meanwhile, anyone screaming "Bring Back Baker" has no real grasp on reality...
Yeah, I know you're a Tennant fan. I don't know. I guess the reason I like Eccles so much is because he was so utterly far from what I pictures in the role of The Doctor. The thing is, it worked (at least for me). He was the incarnation racked with survivor's guilt, sorrow, and a burning intensity. It was because of Eccles's ability to bring the intensity across that I actually understood when someone feared the Doctor in this form. Eccles proved for me that you can do a "dark" Doctor, and make it soar.
