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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
...without the ability to talk about comics without being hounded for their politics or general chaos, they had no reason to stay here. And I'm not talking about freaks like the Legion nerds. I mean guys like Jeremy, Kaz, or even some of the others. Yes, guys like TK-69 are chumps, and Velo was a whiner, and all that. But, honestly, without versatility here, there's no life. Even for people who exist only to argue and fight, there's no one to really argue or fight with now....


Other than the usual trollery that exists across the board here exactly what sort of hounding occurs with any frequency on the comic book forum?


None. Every one is gone...

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I'll rephrase. What sort of hounded occurred?

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Man, look back through the threads. Everything from fucking with Jeremy to whoever was around at the time. The point is, and remains, without the ability to moderate the forum for the fun of its users, of course Jeremy left. Some of the people came here not because they enjoyed everything about the boards, but particular boards. And without the carrot, why would they come back for the stick?

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Jermey left because he started taking comedy lessons and his brain imploded.


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i love politics, its the only way to get heat on the interwebs. even in this thread people are bitching about politics. its awesome.

in all seriousness rob, the only way you are going to grow this forum appreciably is to turn it into another forum. give guys like pro the power to decide what is or isnt acceptable conversation(pretty button power). it will then set up a pecking order of brown noses and wannabes and the community will grow.

see nightly.net wikipedia ect. from pageviews standpoint its not a bad way to go. its your $ if that what you want go for it. i guarantee you wont have the same community you have now, but i have to think if this wasnt enjoyable we wouldn't all keep coming back. but i dont think you can have it both ways.


personally i would rather go back to the natureverse and debate the bots.

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Man, look back through the threads. Everything from fucking with Jeremy to whoever was around at the time. The point is, and remains, without the ability to moderate the forum for the fun of its users, of course Jeremy left. Some of the people came here not because they enjoyed everything about the boards, but particular boards. And without the carrot, why would they come back for the stick?


I never noticed it on that forum but I'll take your word for it.

That being said, what do you propose? This is not a board that takes well to any sort of "moderation."

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it should be moderated! people dont know how to post for themselves!

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 Originally Posted By: Irwin Schwab
it should be moderated! people dont know how to post for themselves!


Understand that, by asking my question, I'm not agreeing with what I think is Pro's suggestion.

At the same time, I think we all need to moderate ourselves a bit more.

Basically we all need to exercise some self restraint and not be such dicks to each other...and not be such whiny pussies whem someone else is a dick sometimes.

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 Originally Posted By: Irwin Schwab
give guys like pro the power to decide what is or isnt acceptable conversation(pretty button power).


Judging from the stickied threads in the Poli-forum, I'd say you have no problem with "pretty button power" as long as you're the one using it.

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but i dont think you can have it both ways.


I disagree. I think you can have it exactly both ways. I think you can have light moderation in particular forums, and unbridled freedom in others. It doesn't have to be the extremes you seem to think it is...

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
Basically we all need to exercise some self restraint and not be such dicks to each other...and not be such whiny pussies whem someone else is a dick sometimes.


Agreed! That's a perfect start.

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Get us our fucking profile music back.


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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that just happened.

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That has nothing to do with the conversation at hand. I just want the damn music player back.


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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Or the Creedence.

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 Originally Posted By: Irwin Schwab
 Originally Posted By: Prometheus


And this is exactly what we're talking about here. The same kind of inflexible, dismissive tone you take with any single person who disagrees with you. What's the point of discussing anything with you?

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Oh please, dear? For your information, the Supreme Court has roundly rejected prior restraint.

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also ray adler sent me a pm asking that this thread be unstickied.

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PARMA, Ohio – With less than an hour before President Obama's scheduled speech, 75 seats remained empty in the recreation center at Cuyahoga Community College's Western Campus.


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I tried recruiting more misfits from the DCMBs once upon a time with the hope that there'd be more people who'd be able to survive the exodus and hazing, but Mxy was too jumpy with the trolling and got the thread locked before my web could catch any flies.

I'll try again later when I don't have any formations.

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 Originally Posted By: Rob Kamphausen
well, let's see.

"cheap heat".


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 Originally Posted By: Rob Kamphausen
well, let's see.

i think that alts have been a large responsibility in making stuff pooish. not all alts. used t'be, back in my day (*sips iced tea*) alts were created to be another persona. there was a lil napoleon. a zod. even an urg, god bless him. they were characters suited to their role. i liked those. they were fun and inventive and stuck to character and, oddly, contributed to the appropriate threads in a logical fashion.

then, there were a buncha alts that were creativity-bereft. they required no thinking. they were bad. like mopius. online obsessor. post-2005 mister jla. mimic. "the." etc. posting to threads with no value, in a fashion i'd argue vastly different (and far more damning) than the traditional art of spamming, frantaing and/or basasmsing. the new era of alts seem to have a topic-ending impact to an impressive degree. they are fucking clown shoes.

i do not think politics is that large of a factor, if at all. whether you hate g-man, whomod, wondy, mem, or any of the other deemed extreme fans, i don't think causing anger and friction is something that stifles conversation, but rather something that inspires it. if g-man is pissing off the opposing team (not straight people or young people in this instance, but liberals) in more cases than not, that creates new posts. someone will want to get all riled up and retaliate.

however, there appears to be limits as to what can qualify as conversation sparking in the political realm. g-man linking the super bowl commercial thread in the media forum to ... i dunno. left wing agenda? that's likely a case of "too far". or, for another example, anything captain sammitch posts. i think posts that are laden with \:lol\: icons, or those that are simply anticipating someone you're goading has been goaded, devalue not only the discussion, but your argument in it.

one of the larger turn-offs to me, unlike slow walks on the beach, is the idea of "cheap heat". one of my absolute favorite things to do on the forum years back was getting into word fights and debates with other posters. the insults would fly back and forth, but with typical levels of creativity added in. it wasn't just a "you are a homosexual, and rex has sexual relations with socks" discussion. there were mini-stories created and images photoshopped and all sortsa inventive ways to specifically not say the same thing over and over (even though you were). ironically (or, perhaps, ingeniously-creative) i often find cheap heat comments much more insulting than the clever ones. not in the "my feelings!!" sorta way, but in the notion that i no longer have a desire to respond or contribute to the thread in any fashion, because the cheap heatior has lamed it (verb form) beyond repair.



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Of course not. Your clothes would never fit him. Think before you ask me these questions, Mitch.

20 points higher than me, thinks a big guy like that can wear his clothes.

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Or Lothar...


I love Lothar. We need more Lother.


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This thread needs more wondy.


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 Originally Posted By: Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
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Or Lothar...


I love Lothar. We need more Lother.


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And lesbians.


Lothar = more lesbians

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This is the greatest Rob Kamphausen cheap heat thread evar!1!

For more added cheap heat, look for some "who should be a mod?" threads coming soon!


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