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Sucks to be a Democrat nowadays. Not so trendy and cool anymore! I have a clear conscience though....douches!

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You voted for Bush so there's no getting past that king of douches.



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 Originally Posted By: PJP
Sucks to be a Democrat nowadays. Not so trendy and cool anymore! I have a clear conscience though....douches!


But...I saw you vote for Obama.

You're guilty.

If I knew of a derogatory term for the Greeks, I'd use it about now.

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Voting for Obama isn't the only thing he was guilty of.

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 Originally Posted By: PJP
I'm back!!!


Welcome back, PJP.
And your wife too!


It goes way beyond Obamacare, the nation-destroying stuff Obama has been doing since day one.

I can't believe Obama still has 39% support. The incredible acts of treason his administration routinely commits that the liberal media and DNC voters just shrug off and ignore.
The quotable Marxists in his administration that Democrats just ignore! These people despise this country, and their actions manifest that contempt, as does their consistent circumnavigation of the rule of law.

As I've been saying for years, Obama has been borrowing over a trillion a year every year of his presidency. And now that the Republicans gave him a tax raise that would bring it down to 700 billion, Obamacare is kicking in to bring it right back over a trillion.
In addition to printing roughly 3 trillion at this point, quadrupling the money supply, that will inevitably create hyperinflation and collapse our economy.

And now he's appointing Yellin as FEDERAL RESERVE chairman, who will print even more unbacked dollars and continue, if not accelerate, the problem.
Would that Romney could have been elected in the nick of time to avert this in 2012. I'm not optimistic this economy can be sustained until 2016.




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Lol Thanks Dave!

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You're welcome. Love your avatar photo, by the way, PJP.

Or should I say Mr Wayne?


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"Criminals are a superstitious cowardly lot, so my disguise must be able to strike terror into their hearts. I must be a creature of the night, black terrible..."

"...a bat! It's an omen! I shall become a bat!"

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I think that's Magneto, WB.


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I didn't have the heart to tell him.

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Well, he's got the Bruce Wayne origin pose!

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PJP didn't have the heart to tell you. It's the last thing he wants to do.


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Would that Batman were real, and Obama would piss him off.

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"My friends have always been the best of me." -Doctor Who

"Well,whenever I'm confused,I just check my underwear. It holds most answers to life's questions." Abe Simpson

I can tell by the position of the sun in the sky, that is time for us to go. Until next time, I am Lothar of the Hill People!
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 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy


Would that Batman were real, and Obama would piss him off.


If that happened the media would instantly turn on Batman, pointing out that Bruce Wayne was one of the evil one per centers. They would spend months trying to get into Wayne Corp's tax records. Allegations would be made that Alfred was an illegal immigrant.

In fact, the only good thing that might come out of that would be when those idiot bitches on "the view," decide the invite the Joker on to explain how Batman violated civil his rights.

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If that happened the media would instantly turn on Batman, pointing out that Bruce Wayne was one of the evil one per centers. They would spend months trying to get into Wayne Corp's tax records. Allegations would be made that Alfred was an illegal immigrant.

In fact, the only good thing that might come out of that would be when those idiot bitches on "the view," decide the invite the Joker on to explain how Batman violated civil his rights.



Yes, I forgot that wealth only becomes evil when it belongs to conservatives.

But when it belongs to Democrats/liberals, no matter how exploitatively or corruptly it is gained or used, it suddenly becomes okay!



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Team Obama: Thanksgiving dinner the perfect time to promote ObamaCare
  • Worried about those awkward family moments around the Thanksgiving table? Why not break the ice with a conversation about ObamaCare?

    That's the advice this holiday season from the folks at President Obama's campaign arm, which is circulating a script -- of sorts -- for people to use in order to advance the cause of Affordable Care Act enrollment.

    Organizing for Action has launched a site, called "Health Care for the Holidays," urging ObamaCare supporters to "have the talk" with their family about signing up for health insurance.

    "It might not always seem like it, but your family listens to you. So have the talk," OFA advises.

    The administration did not meet its sign-up targets in October. So if team Obama gets its way, the sales pitch will start anew at the Thanksgiving table.

    To help supporters breezily change dinner-table topics from "why is the turkey overcooked?" or "have you thought about having kids?" to "have you tried signing up for an affordable health plan?" ... OFA has devised a step-by-step checklist.

    Among other tips, the group tells supporters to "think about how you'll bring it up" and "integrate the talk into family time."

    Downtime after meals? Good time to plug the Affordable Care Act, OFA says. Maybe during the Lions game.

    Organizing for Action also offers a checklist of "common misconceptions" -- like the claim that the 2,000-page law is "too complicated" -- and suggested rebuttals.

    There appears to be one glitch in the program, though. According to the administration, the sign-up call centers are scheduled to be closed for Thanksgiving. Holiday shoppers will instead have to navigate the rocky website.


Why not promote Obamacare on Thanksgiving? After all, it is a huge turkey!

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Small businesses still face Obamacare sticker shock
  • WASHINGTON — The delay of the federal ObamaCare online marketplace for small businesses won’t postpone the “sticker shock” for workers, experts say.
    David Capo, vice president of Benefit Advisory Service, a health-insurance broker firm in Queens, said the new mandated coverage costs more — and employees ultimately will pay for it.
    “There’s this perception out there that ObamaCare is either ­going to be free or it’s going to be better plans or it’s going to save them money,” he said.
    “That’s really not the case for most people who work for our ­clients.
    “There will be a price shock associated with those exchanges,” said Capo, noting he has already seen a 25 percent increase in the cost of small-business policies.
    Capo’s clients include small-business owners who used to provide employee health plans simply because they thought it was the “right thing to do.”
    ObamaCare doesn’t require small businesses with less than 50 employees to provide health plans. But what it does require includes the 10 “essential benefits” that make coverage more expensive.
    “A lot of plans have to be changed. Essential benefits have to meet the mandates,” said Capo.

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Baby not covered under ObamaCare family plan
  • This baby’s not on board with ObamaCare.
    Long Islander Cornelius Kelly found it would be no problem to secure a family plan for his wife and three older kids through New York’s health-care exchange, but his 18-month-old daughter was out in the cold. The baby would need her own insurance policy.
    “I couldn’t believe what I was being told,” said the dad from East Quogue, in Suffolk.
    Kelly said he was no fan of the Affordable Care Act, but when he received notice a few weeks ago that his current insurance plan was being canceled, he tried the New York State of Health Web site.
    Kelly, 41, and his wife, Jennifer, 42, are self-employed and have always had to buy their own insurance. Kelly runs a title insurance business in Westhampton, and his wife is a pediatrician in private practice in Miller Place. “I initially went on with a lot of optimism,” he said.
    Kelly said none of the plans offered out-of-network coverage, which was something he wanted. But even worse, they only covered his three older children, who are 3, 5 and 6.
    When Kelly called a representative, he was told his daughter had to be 2 before she could be covered under a family plan. He would have to buy a separate plan for her, at monthly premiums that ranged between $117.21 and $369.31. The cost would be on top of a family plan with premiums ranging from $810.84 to $2,554.71 a month.
    Kelly said he had been paying about $1,000 a month.
    Unwilling to put his daughter on a separate policy, Kelly found a family plan in the private marketplace for about $1,250 a month.

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Like so many other stories this one gets debunked...
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By Dan Goldberg 3:49 p.m. Dec. 2, 2013 26 follow this reporter

On Sunday morning, the New York Post published the story of Cornelius Kelly, who was dismayed to learn that the New York State health insurance plans could cover his wife and three older children, but that he would have to buy a separate plan for his 18-month-old daughter.

Fox News ran with the story on Monday morning, and had Kelly on to retell the tale. Within hours, the story had spread.

The problem is, Kelly appears to have been given some bad information. Family plans in New York cover the whole family. No baby has to wait until its second birthday to join a family plan, as the article described Kelly being told.

“It was 100 percent false,” said Bill Schwarz, a spokesman for the state's Department of Health. “Of course, everyone is covered in the family policy.”


Kelly, who in 2011 ran and lost on the Conservative Party line for a seat on the Suffolk County legislature, said he was told three times by different state representatives that his toddler would require a separate insurance plan, and that his daughter would have to turn 2 before she could be covered under a family plan.

The mixup appears to have been rooted in Kelly's application, which originally listed only three of his children even though he has four. When the clerical error was discovered, it was corrected, Schwarz said.
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Senate Staffers Unable to Access D.C. Exchange: The DC Health Link website says it is “currently undergoing scheduled maintenance and upgrades,” and provides a phone number for those in need of “immeadiate [sic] assistance.”

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ObamaCare created a Medicaid time bomb
The good news, if you want to call it that, is that roughly 1.6 million Americans have enrolled in ObamaCare so far.

The not-so-good news is that 1.46 million of them actually signed up for Medicaid. If that trend continues, it could bankrupt both federal and state governments.

Medicaid is already America’s third-largest government program, trailing only Social Security and Medicare, as a proportion of the federal budget. Almost 8 cents out of every dollar that the federal government spends goes to Medicaid. That’s more than $265 billion per year.

Indeed, already Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid account for 48% of federal spending. Within the next few years, those three programs will eat up more than half of federal expenditures.

And it’s going to get worse. Congress has shown no ability to reform Social Security or Medicare. With ObamaCare adding to Medicare spending, we are picking up speed on the road to insolvency.

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Overwhelming the federal government with mountains of new socialist spending, that is calculated to overwhelm and collapse the system.
Gee, where have I heard that before?

Cloward-Piven strategy



And Obama is well-versed in Cloward-Piven strategy and its Alinsky tactics of mobilizing the poor to do their progressive/socialist bidding. He used to teach Alinsky tactics to classrooms of ACORN activists.

Likewise Hillary Clinton, who wrote her master's thesis on Saul Alinsky, and is another whose goal is to politically infiltrate our political system, and collapse the system from within, to prepare the way for a new socialist order.



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It's hard to believe Hillary Clinton was at one time a Goldwater Republican. Before she went off to Wellesley and got far-left radicalized.

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Overwhelming the federal government with mountains of new socialist spending, that is calculated to overwhelm and collapse the system.
Gee, where have I heard that before?

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I guess the question I would be asking is where were you when Bush expanded Medicare and rammed tax cuts through with the help of the likes of Boehner & Cantor? At least Obamacare tries to curb costs.


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Bruce Bartlett held senior policy roles in the Reagan and George H.W. Bush administrations and served on the staffs of Representatives Jack Kemp and Ron Paul. He is the author of “The Benefit and the Burden: Tax Reform — Why We Need It and What It Will Take.”

Ten years ago this week, Republicans enacted the largest expansion of the welfare state since the creation of Medicare in 1965 by adding a huge unfunded program providing coverage for prescription drugs to the Medicare program.
Today’s Economist

Perspectives from expert contributors.

For years, responsible critics had said it was a system flaw that Medicare did not pay for prescription drugs along with hospitalization and doctors’ visits. By 2003, strong bipartisan support existed for expanding Medicare to include prescription drugs.

Republicans were keen to make sure that the legislation enacted was theirs, because the Democrats were certain to include cost containment for drugs in their legislation. It was widely believed that if the federal government used its buying power to pressure drug companies to cut drug prices, the cost of providing drugs to Medicare recipients would be substantially reduced.

But forcing down drug prices would diminish the drug companies’ profits and Republicans were adamantly opposed to that. Consequently, despite their oft-repeated opposition to new entitlement programs, they got behind the new drug benefit, now known as Medicare Part D, and made sure there was no cost-containment provision.

George W. Bush strongly supported this effort. Looking ahead to a close re-election in 2004, he thought a new government giveaway to the elderly would increase his vote share among this group. According to exit polls, those over age 65 gave Mr. Bush only 47 percent of their vote in 2000, with 51 percent going to Al Gore.

From the beginning, Republicans decided to forgo dedicated financing for Part D. Except for trivial premiums paid by recipients, the entire cost would fall on taxpayers. Moreover, Republicans refused to raise the Medicare tax or cut spending to cover Part D. Hence, the deficit increased by virtually the entire cost of the program.

Through 2012, Medicare Part D added $318 billion to the national debt (see “General Revenue” on Page 111 in the 2013 Medicare trustees report). That same report projects that Medicare Part D will add $852 billion to the debt over the next 10 years.

An important precondition to enactment of the prescription drug benefit was that it not cost more than $400 billion over the first 10 years, a figure established in the budget resolution. Any figure higher than that would have been subject to a “point of order” by a single member of the House or Senate that would probably have derailed the legislation.

Thus it was a huge problem for Republicans when the chief actuary of the Medicare system, Richard S. Foster, concluded during the summer of 2003 that Part D would actually cost $530 billion over its first 10 years. But this fact was hidden from Congress and not revealed until it was reported by The New York Times on Jan. 30, 2004 — almost two months after the bill was signed into law.

Mr. Foster later discussed in detail the pressure exerted on him by Bush administration political appointees, in particular, Thomas A. Scully, administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. In a 2004 article for a professional journal, Mr. Foster said:

Congressional activity on the legislation that became the Medicare modernization act got underway in May of 2003. In June, the then-administrator of C.M.S. ordered me to cease responding directly to congressional requests for actuarial assistance. Instead, I was directed to provide the responses to him for his review, approval and ultimate disposition. Following several vigorous discussions, the administrator made it clear that this was a direct order and that if I failed to follow it, “the consequences of insubordination are extremely severe.” I understood this statement to mean that I would be fired if I provided the requested information to Congress.

The inspector general for the Department of Health and Human Services later determined that Mr. Scully’s action was inappropriate, but by then Part D was in law and he had left government to become a lobbyist for drug companies.

The fact that Mr. Foster’s estimate and another from the Congressional Budget Office were well above the actual cost of Medicare Part D over the first 10 years is irrelevant. The point is that the legislation was thought to cost $400 billion in 2003. An estimate of $530 billion from the Medicare actuary would have killed the legislation or possibly forced Republicans to accept cost-containment measures opposed by the pharmaceutical industry.

But that is not the end of Republican manipulation to get the prescription drug giveaway enacted. When the legislation came up for a final vote in the House of Representatives at 3 a.m. on Nov. 22, 2003, it failed after a standard 15-minute vote, with 194 for and 209 against.

Rather than accept defeat, Republican leaders simply kept the vote open while they twisted arms to get opponents to switch their votes. By 4 a.m., the legislation was still losing, 216 yeas to 218 nays, according to an excellent report in The Hill. Finally, at 5:52 a.m., the vote closed, with Republicans eking out a 220-to-215 victory.

The record indicates that the following Republicans switched their votes from nay to yea: Ernest Istook of Oklahoma, Trent Franks of Arizona, C.L. Otter of Idaho and Calvin Dooley of California. Two Democrats, Jim Marshall and David Scott, both of Georgia, also switched from nay to yea (see Page H12296 in The Congressional Record).

The record also shows that such “deficit hawks” as the current House speaker, John Boehner of Ohio; the current House majority leader, Eric Cantor of Virginia; and the current House Budget Committee chairman, Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, voted for Medicare Part D all the way. Although out of Congress, the former speaker, Newt Gingrich, wrote a commentary in The Wall Street Journal on Nov. 20, 2003, urging all Republicans to vote yes.

Tom DeLay of Texas, then House majority leader, was later criticized by the House ethics committee for bringing undue pressure on Representative Nick Smith of Michigan to switch his vote, which he did not. Mr. DeLay later told a conservative news service that those who voted against Medicare Part D took “the easy way out.”

Three days later, the Senate joined the House in supporting the legislation, which passed by a vote of 54 to 44, with 42 Republicans voting yea and 9 nay. Among those voting yea were such staunch conservatives as Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, Orrin Hatch of Utah and Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania.

When Senator Hatch was later asked why Republicans did not provide Medicare Part D with proper financing, he said, “We didn’t have the votes to pay for it.”

But at least President Bush achieved his goal. According to exit polls, he increased his share of the over-65 vote to 52 percent in 2004.

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Another University Scales Back Insurance Because Of Obamacare: In a direct response to Obamacare, the University of Minnesota has slashed its health care offerings.

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That's pretty close to home for M E M.

Not that he'll acknowledge Obama's hypocritical destructive hand in it.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
About 150,000 have signed up for Obamacare.
While 5.5 million have lost the coverage that they were promised they could keep.




OBAMACARE: just the latest liberal-progressive stepping stone toward the destruction of our Constitutional republic.


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*right-click, save*

Aside from lacking the phrase "War on Christmas" right after "Multiculturalism," that about sums everything up.

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It does give a nice overview of the liberal war on Western democracy (i.e., Cultural Marxism, a. k. a. post-1960's liberalism).

"War on Christmas" is covered under ANTI-CHRISTANITY MOVEMENT, as well as >> 1962 PRAYER OUT >> 1963 BIBLE OUT and >> 1980 TEN COMMANDMENTS OUT

Although the tentacles of the Left overlap, and as you say, that is also covered under MULTICULTURALISM.


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    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.
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Courtesy of Gretawire.com...



...the ghetto-ization of Obamacare promotion, by the liberal-progressive scum who, astonishingly, still support him.


I have a friend named Jan who immigrated here from Soviet-controlled Poland, who said it was the same there. "With ads everywhere saying HEY, EVERYTHING'S GREAT, but everyone knows it's shit."

Somehow it's funnier when he says it with a Polish accent. Partly because I credit people of his country with not using the same lowbrow colloquialisms like "shit" that we do, until I hear him use them. And partly because it's funnier when he describes it in a country he left to come here, than having the same authoritarian system rise here,and its propaganda forced down the throats of the American people.
He left Poland to escape authoritarian communist socialism.

If freedom disappears in the U.S., where do people escape to?


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As Ukraine has taught us, the people shouldn't escape. They should have simply fixed their own countries.

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By that do you mean the Soviet genocide of Ukranians in the 1930's?

I don't think the Ukranians had much choice in the matter. And the whole world knew it was happening, widely reported, and did nothing to stop it. Just like Czechoslavokia in the same period.

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With Affordable Care Act, Canceled Policies for New York Professionals: Many in New York’s professional and cultural elite have long supported President Obama’s health care plan. But now, to their surprise, thousands of writers, opera singers, music teachers, photographers, doctors, lawyers and others are learning that their health insurance plans are being canceled and they may have to pay more to get comparable coverage, if they can find it.

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Reports of erroneous WA health exchange debits:
  • For the second week in a row, the Washington Healthplanfinder website is down, and it's causing problems for people who are dealing with billing issues. Some of them say the website is mistakenly debiting their accounts.

    Shannon Bruner of Indianola logged on to her checking account Monday morning, and found she was almost 800 dollars in the negative.

    “The first thing I thought was, ‘I got screwed,’” she said.

    They're not alone.

    One viewer emailed KING 5 saying, "They drafted my account this morning for a second time."

    Another woman on Facebook with a similar problem commented, "We are all in the same boat."

    “We've got to figure out how to get money to pay the bills for the next week or two until we have another check come through,” said Josh Bruner. “It's just crazy.”

    Washington Healthplanfinder emailed the Bruners a few days ago telling them to log in to view their invoice, something they couldn't do because the website has been down. The Bruners haven't been able to get through on the helpline either. They finally contacted Healthplanfinder administrators by posting a message on their Facebook page.


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Maryland health exchange director resigns after questions about vacation: The director of Maryland's troubled health insurance exchange resigned Friday amid ongoing technical problems and questions about a Caribbean vacation she took while the online marketplace faltered.

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 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
By that do you mean the Soviet genocide of Ukranians in the 1930's?

I don't think the Ukranians had much choice in the matter. And the whole world knew it was happening, widely reported, and did nothing to stop it. Just like Czechoslavokia in the same period.


I mean the recent riots against their government.

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