Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#1218001 2015-05-05 4:03 PM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,971
Likes: 29
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
OP Offline
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,971
Likes: 29


She just announced, and I admit I was dismissive, but...



... she makes a good point that we have for most of U.S. history been a citizens' government where people from many backgrounds could be president, and not just those who were career politicians.
The last non-politician we had as president was Dwight Eisenhower.

And she arguably has economic and international experience that exceeds that of career politicians.
I'm thinking of that Dan Akroid line from Ghostbusters, saying to Bill Murray after they lost their university psychology dept jobs, "You don't understand, I've worked in the private sector. They expect results."

Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,971
Likes: 29
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
OP Offline
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,971
Likes: 29

It wasn't up yet yesterday, but this was the video I had in mind when I created this topic, that gives an overview of her career and political views:


Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,971
Likes: 29
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
OP Offline
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,971
Likes: 29

She currently polls at 1% support among Republicans, but hey, I still like the perspective she brings to the primaries discussion.

And you never know. Look at McCain who dropped out in early 2008, and went on to become the nominee.

Joined: May 2003
Posts: 43,951
Likes: 6
Officially "too old for this shit"
15000+ posts
Offline
Officially "too old for this shit"
15000+ posts
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 43,951
Likes: 6
I saw her deliver a lecture last November. She is an excellent speaker and a really sharp person.

But she's never going to be president unless she successfully runs for another office first.

Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,971
Likes: 29
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
OP Offline
brutally Kamphausened
15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,971
Likes: 29

I think you're right. And it's the same advice that I'd give (or have given) to Ross Perot, Jesse Jackson, Donald Trump, Dr. Ben Carson and many others: Be a mayor of a large city, be a governor, prove that you can duplicate your private-sector excellence in a political position that requires building popular support and building coalitions in the Senate and Congress to get things done!

Mitt Romney has proven that he knows how to do this.
As have John McCain, Newt Gingrich and many others.

A guy like Ross Perot I would not vote for as I did 20-plus years ago. Being a corporate CEO, you don't have to build coalitions, you have the first and last word, and everyone says "yes sir!" The presidency isn't like that.
Despite the attempts of the current guy in the Whitehouse to stick to his blinders-on ideology, and ram through legislation and executive orders that EVEN HIS OWN PARTY has rejected. And as in the case of Senator Robert Menendez, and True The Vote, Obama has (rather than demonstrating any ability to build coalitions) instead weaponized the Justice Dept, the FBI and IRS to silence and intimidate his critics.

So yeah, even among Republicans I favor guys with a proven track record like governor Scott Walker, governor John Kasich, governor Mike Huckabee, and (less enthusiastically) Jeb Bush.
Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio I see as possibly ending up as a vice president on the ticket.

Joined: May 2003
Posts: 43,951
Likes: 6
Officially "too old for this shit"
15000+ posts
Offline
Officially "too old for this shit"
15000+ posts
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 43,951
Likes: 6

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,792
Likes: 40
Fair Play!
15000+ posts
Offline
Fair Play!
15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,792
Likes: 40
What has Scot Walker accomplished for his state? Wisconsin is struggling while Minnesota is booming. It might give you guys an erection that he crippled unions but it didn't help his state.


Fair play!
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,792
Likes: 40
Fair Play!
15000+ posts
Offline
Fair Play!
15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,792
Likes: 40
As for Fiorina, remember she was fired from her private sector job. Unlike most voters she got over 20 million bucks on her way out too. She might have some legs though because the GOP might think her useful as an anti-Hillary.


Fair play!

Link Copied to Clipboard
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5