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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
You "forgot" that Russia supplied Wikileaks with the material.


We're arguing in circles now.

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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
You "forgot" that Russia supplied Wikileaks with the material.


No. They didn't.

Whistleblowers have admitted on multiple occasions that IT WAS OUR OWN PEOPLE THAT DID THE HACKING and then gave it to Wikileaks for them to disseminate.

How is it that I have to remind a liberal that it wasn't the Red Menace? Seriously, you and your ilk are channeling Joe McCarthy pretty damn hard right now.

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And Trump wins the Electoral College soundly, although with 2 protest votes taking away from his score. In the end, he still ended up 304.

The only thing left now is inauguration. In which case, either he's killed off or Soetoro declares war on Russia to cover up His and Killary's offenses.

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The general
The recount
The EC

Hillary Clinton: three time loser!

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Let's not forget that the FBI has reopened the CF investigation. Assuming Obama doesn't preemptively pardon her, that could be the fourth nail in her coffin.

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And Oh! Oh! She also lost the nomination eight years ago. That's make five.

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 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
Well, the Democrats (and their allies in the media), have tried multiple post-election campaigns to undermine the legitimacy of Trump's presidential election victory:

1) Blaming James Comey for re-opening his investigation of Hillary 11 days before the election. (Then closing it again a few days later.)
2) Obsessing over Hillary's winning the popular vote, despite her losing the electoral vote. (Even though there's some persuasive evidence Hillary rigged the popular vote. Just as she rigged her victory over Bernie Sanders, rigged the debates by knowing the questions in advance, etc., etc.)
3) In collaboration with Jill Stein, demanding a re-count, which again didn't go Hillary's way, and in some cases showed even more votes for Trump in the re-count.
4) Now they're selling the narrative that "The Russians wanted Trump to win", and implying if not outright saying that Trump was openly colluding with the Russians to do so. But there's no evidence that Russian hacking attempts had any effect on the election, regardless of their intent. The Russians didn't piss off voters by vowing to destroy the coal industry, Hillary did. The Russians didn't skip campaigning in Ohio and Pennsylvania, arrogantly complacent in her assured victories there, Hillary did. The Russians didn't rig the primaries against Bernie Sanders, didn't pay front-men $1,500 each to start violence at Trump rallies, didn't cheat in the debates by getting the questions in advance. Hillary did.

The latest effort to discredit Trump's election victory is 5) harassing and intimidating electors into not voting for Trump as they are obligated by law to do. In some cases, even making death threats at electors if they vote for Trump. A nice glimpse of what Hillary's Reich would have been like, had she won. No one ever so richly deserved to lose, like Frau Hitlery deserved to lose. And to anyone not already part of the indoctrinated Left, that is increasingly obvious.



Added to that about 2 weeks ago:

6) Democrat partisans tried to obstruct/intimidate/threaten the Electoral College representatives from voting as they are bound to vote by the voters they represent, in their state district voter totals.
But Hillary lost here again, Trump lost 2 electoral votes, Hillary lost 5.

And today, the very last obstacle:

7) The electoral votes were announced and tallied on the House floor in Washington DC. To which Vice President Biden finally had to talk over and stop their spiteful defiance of the rule of law, and say "It's over!"



This, from the very last few minutes of the very last episode of Megyn Kelly's show, as she leaves Fox News to take a position for NBC.
The exchange with Biden on the Congressional floor demonstrates that Democrats have no respect for the system and rule of law, their only goal is obstruction, slander, and whatever bending of the rules will bring them to power (fruitlessly this time), and even failing, relentlessly try to smear the legitimacy of Trump's administration, who ACTUALLY WON THE ELECTION!
DESPITE every dirty trick and obstruction by Democrats.
DESPITE the false narratives that will continue by the Obama administration, that Trump's victory is somehow won by a false narrative and a product of Russian tampering, and not by Trump winning on addressing the issues voters really care about, and by campaigning 5 times as much as Hillary every day across the country, for months! That Hillary's failure is in truth a product of her own corruption, exposed by WikiLeaks, Project Veritas, and both conservative and mainstream media.

Every spiteful America-hating kneejerk tendency of the Democrat Left is on full display.
And despite it all, every last dirty trick, they failed. AGAIN!


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And by "America hating", I mean the open contempt of Democrats for the process and our Constitutional rule of law. Democrats have proven this year, like in no other election, that they don't care about free speech, about the will of the voters, and about the Constitutional protections of that. Democrats have demonstrated their contempt for our republic, that all they care about is whatever manipulation of the system will give them power.

And as the last 8 years have demonstrated, when given power, how Democrats will abuse that power at every opportunity, and weaponize it against Republican dissenters. No better example than the IRS targeting Tea Party and religious conservative groups, and auditing prominent Republican campaign donors like Gibson Guitars, True The Vote, Catherine Englebrecht, and Frank Vandersloot. And likewise targeting them for harassment/intimidation using FBI, ATF, OSHA, EPA and other federal agencies. That no Democrat has voiced opposition to this incredible abuse of federal power in the last 4 years freezes my blood.

Liberals have threatened the electoral voters for simply doing their jobs and voting in accordance with their constituents!
Liberals even threaten any entertainer who would perform at Trump's inauguration!
A Democrat power structure that generates that kind of threat and fear needs to be destroyed and neutralized. I'm elated these evil bastards were denied power and rejected by the American people.


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I loved how Trump blasted back at Buzzfeed and CNN yesterday in his first news conference since his election. He rightly chastised the media bias, and Hillary/Obama/Democrat partisan elements in the intelligence community who leaked this half-baked story to the media.

An important consideration of Obama's 53% approval rating is the way --for over 8 years!!-- the Obama adoring media has pumped him up, gushed over his every word, and shielded him from stories that incredibly, over 8 years later, have never adequately been reported despite overwhelming evidence.
Such as Barack Obama's ties to William Ayers.
Such as his Cultural Marxist radicalism, hostile to the very fundamentals of our Constitution and free market capitalist system, and his hostility toward our military, diplomatic and economic hegemonic influence in the world as a superpower, which he has sought his entire presidency to damage and diminish.
Such as Obama's ties to Jeremiah Wright and belief in liberation theology.
Such as Obama's anti-colonialism, that again is clear in his destruction from within, as president, of U.S. military and diplomatic influence, siding against Mubarek in Egypt, supportingthe Arab Spring, that collapsed U.S. influence in the Mid East.

Such as Obama's stoking racial tensions, endorsing as somehow legitimate the Black Lives Matter movement, that has resulted in cops shot and killed nationwide in recent months.
Such as Obama ***NOT*** intervening, ever, to free two Marines imprisoned unjustly in Mexican prisons. Who in spite of Obama, eventually regained their freedom.
Likewise Obama's ignoring the shooting of a military recruiter, until Obama was shamed into making an obligatory token mention long after the fact.
Such as the deception that has surrounded the passing of Obamacare every step of the way, clearly planned as a Trojan horse, that would require a bailout and conversion to a single-payer system, which was always the intended final goal. Abundantly clear in Obama's stated preference for a single payer system (in video recorded comments) long before Obamacare's passing, a deception reliant on "the stupidity of the American voter" (as clearly said by Jonathan Gruber, repeatedly, on video) and the media's flying cover for the deception.

All these scandals and more, with low-hanging fruit that would make their proving Obama's radicalism and destruction to the nation easy, the media ignores. But CNN and other partisan media leaps at half-baked trash stories about Trump with the Russians, in a media attempt to destroy Trump's presidency before it begins.


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The Democrat/liberal media attempt to destroy Trump's presidency before it begins continues. in the last week with representative John Lewis (D- GA) saying Trump is an "illegitimate president" and he would not attend Trump's inauguration.
Other Democrats have jumped on the bandwagon, and (so far) 42 Democrats, many black, all far-left, say they will not attend Trump's inauguration. That's roughly one fifth of House Democrats, all from far-left districts, who could urinate on the American flag and their districts would still vote for them. They pretty much are, regarding the inauguration.

Also the threatening of any celebrity who dares to entertain at the Trump inauguration. Including the band that will play at a small black college.

All these issues were covered well on O'Reilly's program last night.



As well as on Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity's programs that followed it.





I watched Alisyn Camerota and Chris Cuomo on CNN this morning, and found it laughable the selective omission and DNC-newsletter version of events. Some guy who wrote a book went on about how Obama was a great president who just isn't getting credit for his accomplishments ( \:lol\: \:lol\: \:lol\: !)
8 years of no better than 2.1% annual economic growth, his red line in Syria that he wimped out on, giving North Korea, Russia, China, Iran, ISIS and Al Qaida the green light to step up their aggression. Meaning Obama is directly responsible for the ISIS/Assad bloodshed that resulted from his inaction, causing literally millions of violence-prone refugees fleeing to Europe and the U.S., and a vast increase of terrorist attacks in the U.S. and worldwide. Weaponizing the IRS under Lois Lerner against Republican opposition, as well as similarly weaponizing ATF, OSHA, FBI, EPA and other federal agencies. Obama throwing kerosine on the fire of black violence with his endorsement of the Black Lives Matter movement and undermining police, resulting in cops getting shot and killed nationwide, and other black-on-white violence. Doubling the national debt from 10.5 trillion up to 20 trillion. Quadrupling the number of printed dollars, risking the collapse of the dollar.
Oh, YEAH! Obama's doing a great job!

Four more days, and Obama's war on America will end. And Trump can begin signing executive orders to undo all the crazy shit that Obama tyrannically bypassed the will of the American people to put in place. Thank God our next president is not Hillary Clinton.


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 Originally Posted By: WB
The Democrat/liberal media attempt to destroy Trump's presidency before it begins continues. in the last week with representative John Lewis (D- GA) saying Trump is an "illegitimate president" and he would not attend Trump's inauguration.
Other Democrats have jumped on the bandwagon, and (so far) 42 Democrats, many black, all far-left, say they will not attend Trump's inauguration. That's roughly one fifth of House Democrats, all from far-left districts, who could urinate on the American flag and their districts would still vote for them. They pretty much are, regarding the inauguration.


That number's up to 68 now.
68 screaming infant crybabies, spitefully trying to wreck the country just because their candidate didn't win.

Tucker Carlson's program Tuesday night captured well the insanity of what's going on. Sam Moore, the guy who sings "Soul Man", an 82 year old black man, offered to sing at Trump's inauguration, and has received angry mail and death threats since he did so.
For singing!
A guy who has lived through segregation, the Great Depression, World War II, the McCarthy era and the Civil Rights era, the 60's and Vietnam war, the Nixon/Watergate era, says that THIS is the most angry and divisive period he has lived through!


(Sam Moore appears at 29:15 into the video)



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The piece of shit ran a scorched earth campaign and race baited Obama with the crazy birther nonsense. I don't blame anybody for passing on Trump's inauguration. Nobody from either side should be threatened though. You pretend the death threats are only one way but it isn't.
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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
The piece of shit ran a scorched earth campaign and race baited Obama with the crazy birther nonsense. I don't blame anybody for passing on Trump's inauguration. Nobody from either side should be threatened though. You pretend the death threats are only one way but it isn't.
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The piece of shit ran a scorched earth campaign and race baited Obama with the crazy birther nonsense. I don't blame anybody for passing on Trump's inauguration. Nobody from either side should be threatened though. You pretend the death threats are only one way but it isn't.
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M E M, do you really think Donald Trump was making a serious threat in that quoted comment? It was said with humor, basically saying, this guy is annoying, please, someone get him out of here.
It's said with about the same seriousness as Henny Youngman saying "Take my wife, please!"
Spike Lee posting online the address of what he thought was the address of George Zimmerman's parents, and saying "This is where these people live, go after them," THAT's a serious wish for harm. (And these people, who were NOT Zimmerman's parents and were completely unrelated to Zimmerman, had to flee their home.)
Hillary Clinton's campaign (as reported by Project Veritas) paying people $1,500 each to go to Trump rallies and deliberately provoke violence, THAT's a serious provocation of violence.
What Al Sharpton has done.
What Jesse Jackson has done.
What ACORN has done.
What Black Lives Matter has done.
Those are all serious attempts to stoke violence. Trump's comments are not. And anyone who is not an ideological partisan can plainly see that.

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Anybody that finds O'keefe's projects where he has a long history of editing videos to give viewers the wrong impression valid is the ideological partisan WB. You just got done blasting the media in general (except Hannity). In your world the guy who fought for the right to vote is the villain while your hero spent years fighting the government to keep black people out of his father's properties. Trump is a piece of shit not because he's a republican but because of his long history you ignore and brush off.


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If that were true, why is the mainstream media covering this story too?

It is widely acknowledged by pundits on every network that these Hillary Clinton subordinate groups were paying people to go to Trump rallies and stoke violence.

It was also widely acknowledged that O'Keefe was correct about ACORN. Correct to the point that the U.S. congress voted to cut off billions in funding for ACORN, and the U.S. Census Bureau also severed ties with ACORN, preventing ACORN from corrupting the new U.S. census polls.

Much as you'd like to believe otherwise, those are simply facts.


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Two days ago on January 18th, Hannity contrasted W. Bush's civility with Obama's cheap shots and demagoguery quite well:



I celebrate Obama's departure, and the fact that his unwillingness to follow rule of law means almost his entire presidency will be erased within weeks by a series of Trump executive orders, except for a few appointed judges and federal attorneys.

Barack Obama is gone, his legacy will soon be little more than racial demagoguery, dead cops and the ashes of would-be Cultural Marxism.

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 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
If that were true, why is the mainstream media covering this story too?

It is widely acknowledged by pundits on every network that these Hillary Clinton subordinate groups were paying people to go to Trump rallies and stoke violence.

It was also widely acknowledged that O'Keefe was correct about ACORN. Correct to the point that the U.S. congress voted to cut off billions in funding for ACORN, and the U.S. Census Bureau also severed ties with ACORN, preventing ACORN from corrupting the ne census.

Much as you'd like to believe otherwise, those are simply facts.

The press covered the story as it hit and unfortunately your hero's deception was taken at face value. One Acorn worker that was one of Okeefe's victims called the cops after talking with him. The Okeefe's video made him out to be a villain. O'keefe had to pay for smearing the guy. And when Acorn was investigated multiple times and cleared the damage was done. You leave out all that becbause it doesn't fit your narrative. Acorn's real crime was that it helped poor people register and vote.


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ACORN's real crime was that it committed crimes! It defrauded the federal government and taxpayers. PERIOD.
That Congress de-funded ACORN, and that the U.S. Census Bureau severed ties as well is testament to that. ACORN's registration of fraudulent voters is well documented. If anything you say about O'Keefe is true, it is a tiny footnote of minor error in the greater context of these facts. Otherwise correct news reporting sources all the time have to later make retractions of minor errors. I wrote articles for two years, and would often have people approach me after a story was in print, and tell me things after-the-fact that I wish I'd known before press-time.

One of the most interesting, a Boca Raton police officer expressed embarrassment about how L.A. police officers had beaten Rodney King, that it was an embarrassment to police everywhere in its unprofessionalism. His take was that no matter how big Rodney King was, four officers should have been able to wrestle him to the ground , cuff him and put him in a squad car, and it was not their job to punish King beyond arresting him. (That's not so much correcting an inaccuracy as it is an insight, that officers didn't side with the L.A. cops, and what professional officers themselves saw as the correct way King should have been handled.)

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What I said about O'keefe isn't in doubt but a matter of legal record. He dishonestly smeared with his videos and had to pay up. You being okay with deceit as long as it benefits your party isn't surprising to me.


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I'm OK with a Congress that took away billions in funding from ACORN because of their blatant dishonesty and lack of ethics.
I'm OK with the U.S. Census Bureau's severing ties with ACORN and not letting its members participate in (and corrupt) the U.S. census.

You are looking at a minor infraction by O'Keefe where one ACORN individual filed a case against O'Keefe and he could not disprove the allegation. Perhaps the ACORN guy was a corrupt thug like the rest, but O'Keefe simply could not prove it. That does not disprove what every other major media source has acknowledged as fact about ACORN, despite an error on a minor footnote by O'Keefe.

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The ceremony was beautiful to watch, particularly the Missouri State University chorus, and the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. And Donald Trump's inauguration speech (a relatively brief 15 minutes).



I showed what I could find on YouTube. The best I saw on television was narrated by Neil Cavuto on Fox Business News.

The liberal media --of course!!-- called Trump's speech "dark" and made absurd comparisons to antisemitic racism of the 1930's, and to Adolf Hitler.
Gee, I missed the part when Hitler said "whether white or black or brown we all bleed red, and share the same hopes and dreams." Trump talked about rebuilding America and creating a shining example for the world, and in the process re-uniting as a nation and finding faith in each other.

Yeah. Dark stuff.


I briefly flipped over to CNN repeatedly, and saw David Gergen, Wolf Blitzer and others obsessing over bean-counts of how many minorities Trump has selected for his cabinet.
And when Don Lemon was on later with Gloria Borger and several other cackling liberal harpies, they giggled about what awful dancers Trump and several of his cabinet were at a ball dancing with male and female Marines. They also grudgingly said Melania Trump looked elegant, but quickly followed up that in expensive fashions looked out of touch with average Americans.

Screw them.
One thing I like about Milania Trump is that while she speaks English with a heavy accent, she speaks four other languages. I like that she is a first-generation immigrant to the U.S., and is already First Lady, and before she ever married Trump, had achieved enormous success in her own right. She is the embodiment of the American Dream, and of how welcoming our nation is to new immigrants. In that alone, she is an inspiring first lady.
I haven't heard that mentioned anywhere.

Likewise the rest of the Trumps. They are on a par with the Kennedys or the Reagans in appearance. And beyond that, whatever they began with, they are hard workers and remarkably accomplished and generous people, who have achieved way beyond what they were given. They are one better than the Kennedys, because they have not only earned it, but seem to appreciate people in a down-to-earth way.
While possibly touched on, I haven't heard that particularly spotlighted either.



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Maybe Okeefe can put together a video of it to conform ,to your reality.


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Maybe Okeefe can put together a video of it to conform ,to your reality.


AGAIN: Obviously I share the same reality as the United States Congress, and the U.S. Census Bureau. And at the time ACORN's chestnuts were cut off, the Democrats were still majorities in both houses of Congress.
THAT is reality, beyond the way you would like to spin it.



New press secretary Sean Spicer blasted the collective media for smearing Trump with a fake story of Trump allegedly removing a bust of Martin Luther King (which wasn't), and for the media attempting to downplay and diminish visible turnout for the Trump inauguration.



Spicer beautifully said to the media "There's been a lot of talk in the media about needing to hold Donald Trump accountable. And I'm here to tell you that it goes two ways. We're going to hold the press accountable as well. The American people deserve better. And [President Trump] will take his message directly to the American people, where his focus will always be."

Wow. WOW !
Never has the media been more blatantly aligned against a U.S. president, and this is a powerful message that it will not be tolerated, and that the media (who has always controlled the message with a liberal bias) will itself be exposed!
This is definitely not a news media that will adore Trump the way they adored Obama.

Nor is it a Press Secretary or Trump administration that will quietly endure the cheap shots without firing back. I always felt that was a weakness of W. Bush's, that he would ignore these slanders without responding, creating an image that he was incapable of answering accusations, rather than choosing to ignore what was untrue.




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Does it bother you at all that they just out and out lied about crowd size and than attacked the media for not lying?


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Does it bother you at all that they just out and out lied about crowd size and than attacked the media for not lying?


Not quite correct. Sean Spicer correctly said that the media tried to downplay the size of the crowd (in yet another fraudulent overture) in an attempt to delegitimize Trump's presidency as not supported. The crowds were larger than the media suggested.

Spicer was wrong on one minor point, saying these were "the largest crowds ever" for an inauguration. They were smaller than Obama's 2013 inauguration because of increased security that did not make the area as accessible, and therefore many could not get into the ceremony area in time to see the inauguration. But press secretary Spicer cited the evidence that the crowds were much larger than the media was willing to admit.

Likewise Spicer was right about the complete fabrication of the alleged missing MLK bust.
Likewise Spicer was right about the media falsely portraying Trump as allegedly condemning the entire CIA, rather than his condemning only its political-appointed leadership from the past administration, as is the true case. Pulitzer-winning Watergate journalist Bob Woodward backs that up, saying the intelligence smearing Trump right before the inauguration was "complete garbage, that never should have been released."


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What evidence did Spicer provide that was true? Really pathetic lies starting out.


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What evidence did Spicer provide that was true? Really pathetic lies starting out.


I see no facts to back that up that empty "lies" slander.

Spicer cited areas that during previous events in Washington are known to hold crowds in excess of 250,000, he cited three areas that collectively alone would hold crowds of 750,000. He cited the recorded volumes of public transportation that brought people into Washington square.


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...Spicer made two unprovable statements in his briefing: that photographs of the audience at Trump's inaugural were intentionally framed to minimize the appearance of support, and that Trump drew the largest audience ever to witness an inauguration.

But he also made statements that were quickly disproven: that the Washington Metro system recorded more riders on the day of Trump's inaugural than when Obama was sworn in for his second term, that Friday marked the first time that white floor covering was used on the Washington Mall that amplified empty spaces, and it was the first time spectators were required to pass through magnetometers to enter the Mall.
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Already asked and answered, M E M.
We've been over this before. While Spicer was wrong about it being "largest crowd ever", he still cited things that proved it was a very large crowd, larger than the media wanted to report. While it was not "larger than 2013", it was still larger than the media projected.

And the media flatout lied about the Martin Luther King bust allegedly having been removed.

And the media flatout lied about Trump attacking the entire intelligence field, as opposed to the Obama-appointed political leadership of the intelligence field, who released bad intelligence to smear Trump, that Bob Woodward described as "complete garbage" that should never have been released.


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Anti-Trump Protestors Spat On Gold Star Family Outside American Legion Ball

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Federalist senior writer Mary Katharine Ham joined Jake Tapper on CNN’s “The Lead” to talk about anti-Trump protestors getting rowdy, attacking, and spitting on Gold Star families attending the American Legion Salute to Heroes Inaugural Gala Friday.


Ryan Manion, who lost her brother in Iraq in 2007 and Amy Looney, whose husband died in Afghanistan in 2010, were spat upon by anti-Trump protestors while walking into and leaving the American Legion’s Salute to American Heroes Inaugural Gala Friday night. According to Manion, whose Facebook post on the incident has been shared almost 2,000 times, they were not black-bloc-style rioters but mostly regular protesters, and many of them were women. Manion is a personal friend of Ham’s, who talked to her about the incident after seeing her Facebook post. Aside from that, there has been almost no media coverage of this incident.

“As we made our way through the crowd, we were spit at and called some of the worst and most vile things I have ever heard come out of a person’s mouth,” Manion wrote on Facebook. “These people had such hatred in their eyes when they screamed at us. After leaving the event we walked outside and was first pushed by a man in a mask hiding his face, then told by 2 women that we ruined this country… As the one woman screamed the other pushed up against me and colored all over my mom’s shawl I was wearing with permanent marker. I am angry and I am scared. My brother and Amy’s husband gave their lives to protect the freedoms that we hold so dear.”

Ham brought up the incident on CNN.

“I think we can all agree that the tone of protesting yesterday was different than today,” Ham said. “This is a nonpartisan organization holding this ball, they work for a non-partisan foundation and are Gold Star families, but when they went in they were surrounded by protesters and they were spit upon and cursed at — on the way in and the way out.”

“They were shaken, but fine — but [it’s] very disappointing,” she added.

“I don’t think this characterizes the march and the movement that we saw out here today,” she said. “I want to be careful about that because I think that that’s something people have unfairly done to conservative movements in the past and to Tea Partiers, where you pick one thing and you go: ‘Look at those awful people out there, their concerns should be dismissed.'”

“But this is part of the story, as is Madonna saying she thinks about blowing up the White House,” she said. “Those are not great things. If it were a conservative movement, we would hear a lot about it. If you don’t think that the left has some prejudices of its own that can lead it very astray like it did last night in that instance, then you’re wrong. And if you think that that’s not part of the reason many turned to Trump, then you’re also wrong.”

Manion wrote an op-ed on the incident for the Philadephia Inquirer today, but there has been no media frenzy to report on this incident.

“Amy and I did not attend the Inaugural Ball as a political statement. We support the current administration exactly like we supported the previous administration and just like we will support every future administration that the American people elect. Amy and I keep our personal politics private; our duty is to the legacy of Travis and Brendan and all those that have served and sacrificed,” Manion wrote.

“I believe this ugly incident involving Amy and me is one of those teachable moments that our entire country can learn from. The character of this country is, at the end of the day, defined by our differences. I have friends who I love dearly on both sides of the political aisle. Let’s celebrate the differences that not only define us, but define what makes the United States of America the greatest country in the world.”




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I thought this clip summed up well the hypocrisy, impotence and desperation of Obama's statements and actions in his final days as president.



"Who are you going to believe? Julian Assange [whose WikiLeaks has so far never released false information]? Or the guy who said "If you like your healthcare plan you can keep it? "

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I think greatness endures \:\)


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I think greatness endures \:\)


Your "greatness" is Cultural Marxism, whose only logic is internally destroying the United States for 8 years.
Racial demagoguery that splinters America along race and class lines.

Supporting a Black Lives Matter movement that fronts false rhetoric and has resulted in dozens of cops being shot in the last 6 months.

Alienating Britain, Israel, Czech republic and other allies of the U.S., that Obama either would not support or outright stabbed in the back.

Obama drawing a "red line" in Syria that he then backed away from when Assad crossed it. That ineffectual cowardice is what stoked the Arab refugee crisis that is now burying Europe, and to a lesser degree the United States.
That also gave birth to ISIS, and instead of strangling it in the cradle, Obama cockily labelled it "junior varsity" and allowed it to spread to over 40 nations, and counting.

Obama not supporting Mubarek in Egypt, endorsing the Arab Spring, resulting in collapse of U.S. diplomatic influence in the Mid East and North Africa.

Making a bad deal with Iran that gives them license to get nuclear weapons within 10 years.

Doubling our national debt to 20 trillion.

Destroying America from within. Wow, what "greatness" for Obama!

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On the flip side is the recently inaugurated Donald Trump, who has accomplished more in his first 7 days than I've seen from any other president in my lifetime. Wednesday in particular, Trump did more in a single day than I expected him or any other president to do in an entire 8 years!



I said over 10 years ago, we don't need the Patriot Act or other new immigration laws, we just need to enforce the existing laws.

Trump has vowed to restore the rule of law. And he is following through. rapidly.

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It's easier blowing things up than building.


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Blowing things up?!?

He's restoring the rule of law that Obama and the Democrats have urinated on for 8 years!
How is restoring the rule of law "destroying"?


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Unlike any president in the 40 years or so I've been politically aware, Trump has been held to unusual standards for what he has been unable to achieve in his first 100 days. The story in the liberal press is never what he's done in his first hundred days, or works nearing completion, or how much he has achieved relative to other presidents, but instead always what Trump has failed to do in that brief period.

Granted, Trump himself set a list of what he planned to do in his first 100 days, but again, that should be reported in perspective of what other presidents have done in the same timeframe. Obama, to be certain, was not held to the same standard. In contrast, Obama was awarded a Nobel Peace prize, within days of inauguration, before he had done anything!

On the last episode of Martha McCallum's show "The First 100 days" Friday, April 28th (the show is now titled "The Story" beyond that point, weeknights at 7 PM) Donald Trump appeared on her show to give an interview from his own perspective of the first hundred days.





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He ran a scorched earth campaign and really lied a whole bunch. Once in the White House not much has changed except now he golfs every weekend.


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