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Aww, man! How sad.

For those who don't know, during most of Stan Lee's tenure at Marvel in the 1960's, Flo Steinberg was the secretary at Marvel Comics, and had a reputation as the sweetest and most personable lady Marvel could possibly have had for the job. Many fans who ventured into the office found a friendly face at Marvel because of Steinberg, and a number of them later became professional writers and artists.

In a topic I posted a while back, with photos of Marvel staffers, I posted photos of her.

COMIC BOOK ARTIST a few years back devoted the better part of a whole issue to her, with an interview about her time at Marvel.

She published a one-shot underground in 1975 titled BIG APPLE COMIX, with art by Neal Adams, Wally Wood, Ralph Reese and other artists.

In one of the oddest books in my collection, a WHAT IF issue (circa 1978) had Marvel staffers get the powers of the FF, including Stan Lee, Jack Kirby and... Flo Steinberg.

She was 78 years old.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flo_Steinberg

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From the Marvel Bullpen photos in MARVEL TALES ANNUAL 1 (1964), along with the photos of other Marvel staffers at the time, a year after she was hired.

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I'm a little surprised she was only 78. She started out at Marvel really young.

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Born in 1939, she started at Marvel in 1963.

So she was... 24?

The kids who were new Marvel talent at that time are roughly the same age as her.
Jim Steranko (born 1939 also) is 78.
Neal Adams (born 1941) is 76.

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An interesting anecdote involving Flo Steinberg, regarding Steranko's hiring at Marvel:

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When Jim Steranko strolled into the Marvel Comics offices in the fall of 1966, he entered a world on fire. Stan Lee, the energetic editor of the company and writer of many of its most popular series including The Fantastic Four, The X-Men, Amazing Spider-Man, The Incredible Hulk, Thor, Avengers, and Daredevil, was, as usual, feverishly working on the scripts for the next month’s comics. In order for Steranko to win an audience with the man who had nearly singlehandedly created the immersive universe of Marvel, he knew he would have to prove he was more than simply one of Lee’s admirers. Lee, working alongside a roster of artists that included, among others, industry warhorse Jack Kirby and temperamental yet brilliant Steve Ditko, had revolutionized the comic book industry starting with The Fantastic Four in 1961, creating an expansive universe populated with deeply flawed heroes. If Jim Steranko was intimidated, he did not show it.

Instead, he strode up to the desk of Flo Steinberg, Lee’s secretary, and simply asked to see Stan Lee. When Steinberg told him that Lee was of course too busy to meet with anyone, Steranko handed her a folio containing his drawings and declared “He won’t be too busy after he sees this!” Steinberg had been around comics long enough to know a special talent when she saw one. After glancing at the drawings, she returned them to Steranko, saying “You’re right! Stan will see you.” Lee agreed with Steinberg’s assessment, calling Steranko’s drawings “crude” but praising their “raw energy.” Due perhaps partially to an acknowledgement that many of his artists were drastically overworked, Lee pointed to a rack containing every Marvel title and asked “What would you like to do for us? Pick one!” Looking at a collection of comics that would have included Avengers, X-Men, and Amazing Spider-Man, Steranko chose a book that was “a Marvel embarrassment:” Strange Tales. Strange Tales was a split book, with each issue featuring a twelve-page story about surrealistic wizard Doctor Strange and a second about Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD. Steranko offered to handle the latter. Explaining his choice years later, Steranko claimed that “on this strip, there was nowhere to go but up!” And up it went.

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I just ran across this review of BIG APPLE COMIX (1975), edited by Flo Steinberg.

http://www.comixjoint.com/bigapplecomix.html

The review also details her period at Marvel from 1963-1968, and details I didn't know about her interaction between 1968-1975 with Trina Robbins and other underground comic artists that compelled her to spend several of those post-Marvel years in San Francisco, where in both mainstream comics and the underground scene she developed the connections to publish BIG APPLE COMIX.

It also has another photo of Flo Steinberg from 1975.

I remember that issue being much more tame than it is described here. Perhaps having vulgar content, but more subtle than in most undergrounds.

The section about Wallace Wood's "My Word" story is sad tribute to the tragedy of Wood's concluding years (Wood died in 1981, six years after BIG APPLE COMIX/"My Word" was published).

An interesting insight into Flo Steinberg's decades-long involvement in the comics world, loved in the comics world and active in it, despite her ostensibly being on the periphery of it. That she was a part of right up until her death.

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BIG APPLE COMIX, 36 pages, September 1975.


Big Apple Comix was published by Big Apple Productions, which was little more than a pseudonym for Flo Steinberg, who began as Stan Lee's receptionist at Marvel Comics in the mid '60s and evolved into an industry pioneer. In 1968, Steinberg discovered underground comics when she met Trina Robbins, who came to Marvel's offices to interview Lee for the L.A. Free Press. Through Robbins, Steinberg met East Village Other cartoonists like Kim Deitch, Spain Rodriguez and Art Spiegelman.


Steinberg left Marvel in 1968 when Martin Goodman (Marvel's founder and publisher) refused to give her a $5-a-week raise. In the early '70s she moved to San Francisco and rubbed elbows with both feminist and underground comic creators before moving back to New York (after a brief respite in Oregon) to help Warren Publishing with their mail order division. By 1974, Steinberg was an established industry insider and Big Apple Comix was in the planning stages.

Leveraging her extensive connections with mainstream comic creators, Steinberg lined up legends like Neal Adams, Archie Goodwin and Al Williamson to contribute to her book about life in New York City. She offered all of them the same freedoms she'd seen in underground comics. Some had enjoyed limited freedom when contributing to Warren magazines like Vampirella, Eerie and Creepy, but they took it to the next level for Big Apple, crafting sordid, sexually graphic storylines.

Some of the book is as mild as any Mad magazine, but the more vulgar content would keep Big Apple Comix out of most retail outlets. And since the underground comic distribution system of head shops had virtually disintegrated by 1975, Steinberg leveraged her experience at Captain Company, the mail-order division of Warren Publishing, to sell most copies of Big Apple through mail order.

There are multiple highlights in the book for underground comic fans, beginning with Archie Goodwin's "Peep Shows," which demonstrates the difference between "sleezy" peep shows and "klassy" peep shows. While not as bawdy as something that Crumb or Williamson would've done, "Peep Shows" offers readers insight into what porn aficionados had to go through back in the day (before all the free porn on the Internet)!

Perhaps the best story in Big Apple is "Over & Under" by Larry Hama and Neal Adams, which features dual stories about a street whore and a Madison-Avenue corporate secretary. Each page of the story is vertically split, with Adams' chronicle of the secretary on the left side and Hama's tale of the slut on the right. The authors show how both women use sex for monetary gain, demonstrating how subjective perception can be in the war of the sexes.

The most historically important story in Big Apple is Wallace Wood's "My Word"; an exquisitely furious parody of Al Feldstein's "My World" that Wood illustrated for the final issue of EC's Weird Science back in 1953. "My World" was Feldstein's reverent tribute to Wood, a brilliant 26-year-old comic illustrator at the time, guiding the reader through the amazing fantasy world that Wood painstakingly crafted in one comic book story after another. Feldstein's script describes Wood's surrogate life in EC comic books during the early '50s; "My world is what I choose to make it. My world is yesterday...or today...or tomorrow...for my world is the world of science fiction...conceived in my mind and placed upon paper with pencil and ink and brush and sweat and a great deal of love for my world."

More than two decades later, Wood was a chronic alcoholic, beaten down and chewed up by the industry he had devoted "his world" to. In "My Word" Wood unleashes a diatribe about life in the execrable concrete jungle of New York and, most critically, life as an underpaid, overworked comic book legend: "That mysterious process by which one's fantasies enrich the lives of others...and the pockets of publishers. But it is worth it, for there are the fans." The fans are represented by a naked boy groveling on the floor, bleating, "Do what you want with me! Kick me! Fuck me! Shit on me! I love you! By the way, your old stuff was better..." Two-faced parasite fuckers, the fans.

The last page of "My Word" accelerates Wood's caustic rhetoric, saying "you must love yourself before you can love anyone else, but how many people really can?" while showing a young woman and man hunched over, giving themselves oral sex. Wood equates the written word with oral pacifications, both carnal and chemical, before literally flipping off the reader and depicting his own grave with a "final farewell message to the entire human race" carved into his tombstone: "Okay, do me something now, you cock suckers!"

Wood closes "My Word" with a final panel that mocks the one that closed "My World": A cigarette-puffing, bug-eyed alien at the drawing board, declaring, "My word is the word I choose to make it, for I conceive it in my mind and put it down on paper with a lot of sweat and love and shit like that, for I am a troglodyte. My name is spafon gool." For those out of the loop, spa fon is a nonsense word typically used by otherworldly beings to express shock or surprise in EC Comics stories. Wood replaced his own persona in the original story with a grim image of a sad and lonely alien, virtually imprisoned by his life's work.

For fans of Wallace Wood, and there are many in the realm of underground comics (both collectors and creators), "My Word" reveals the bitter reality that Wood endured through the last 15 to 20 years of his life. Six years after producing "My Word," after suffering kidney failure and a stroke that caused the loss of sight in one eye, Wood took a gun and blew his brains out. He was 54 years old.

Big Apple Comix is bit dated in spots (peep shows having gone the way of the typewriter) and the stories are fixated on one city, but the themes in this comic should resonate throughout urban America. The writing is pretty sharp and the artwork exceptional; a testament to the creators' affectionate relationship with Flo Steinberg and their willingness to put their heart into stories that excoriate the ugly veneer of New York to show the vital spirit of the city.

Big Apple Comix is a terrific comic book that is classified by some historians as a "link between underground comix and alternative comics." I can understand that classification, since the contributors are mainstream (Marvel, DC and Warren) comic creators with no tradition in underground comics and the publisher had no history of producing undergrounds.

But similar historical links between underground and alternative comics, like Star*Reach and High Adventure, include only mildly risqué content. Big Apple Comix, on the other hand, features portrayals of masturbation, fucking, strung-out whores and vomiting bums. Which doesn't mean Big Apple doesn't represent a transition from underground to alternative, but it's a distinctly underground example of that evolution.
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HISTORICAL FOOTNOTES:
It is currently unknown how many copies of this comic book were printed. It has not been reprinted.

Contents of BIG APPLE COMIX, by artist, and pages each artist did:

Flo Steinberg - (editor), 35
Stu Schwartzberg - 1 (collaboration), 3-5 (collaboration)
Larry Hama - 1 (collaboration), 16-20 (collaboration)
Paul Kirchner - 1 (collaboration), 21
Wallace Wood - 1 (collaboration), 8-10, 27-28 (inks)
Michele Brand - color separations for covers
Denny O'Neil - 2 (editorial)
Sev - 3-5 (collaboration)
Archie Goodwin - 6-7
Petchesky - 11
Al Williamson - 12-14
Ralph Reese - 16-20 (collaboration), 36
Neal Adams - 16-20 (collaboration)
Herb Trimpe - 27-28 (script, pencils), 31-34
Mike Ploog - 29-30
Alan Weiss - 22-26
Howard Weiss - 22-26 (lettering)
John Verpoorten (production)



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A brief tribute by writer, editor and sometimes comics writer Scott Edelman to Flo Steinberg, with description of how he first interacted with her, and in the end photo of himself, wearing the "Merry Marvel Marching Society" pin that she sent him.

http://www.scottedelman.com/tag/flo-steinberg/

I like that it's a recent photo of Edelman, but you can still envision him as the thrilled kid he must have been when he first received and wore it.


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