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LAWMAKERS DIG IN THEIR HEELS, POINT FINGERS, AS GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN ROLLS ON


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Democrats and Republicans played the blame game for a government shutdown Saturday -- with both sides unable to come to an agreement on Democratic demands for language to protect illegal immigrants brought to the U.S. as children.

The shutdown kicked in at midnight Friday after Senate Democrats blocked a month-long short-term resolution to keep the government open.

While the bill would have funded the government, as well as given a six-year extension of funding for the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), Democrats rejected it as it did not include a legislative fix for the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

That Obama-era program was repealed by Trump in September, with a March deadline for Congress to come up with a fix. While separate bipartisan immigration talks had been underway, Democrats demanded a DACA fix as part of the continuing resolution (CR), requiring Republicans to cobble together 60 votes to overcome the filibuster.

The subsequent 50-49 vote fell largely along party lines, with five Republicans voting no, and five Democrats voting yes.

On Saturday, although both the House and the Senate were in session, both sides seemed focused on pushing their respective narratives about who was to blame for the crisis.

Democrats pointed the finger at Republicans, arguing that they could not blame Democrats for the shutdown when Republicans control the House, Senate, and White House.

House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., took aim at Trump, saying he had earned an F for "failure in leadership." She said Republicans are "so incompetent and negligent that they couldn't get it together to keep the government open."

“Happy anniversary Mr President,” Pelosi said. “You wanted a shutdown. The shutdown is all yours.”

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-NY, said on the Senate floor that in a White House meeting on Friday, he offered Trump funding for a border wall in exchange for a DACA fix. He claimed that Trump seemed open to a deal, and they came close to an agreement but hours later he made further demands that Schumer said were untenable.

“Republican leadership can't get its tumultuous president on board with anything,” Schumer said. “The breakdown of compromise is poisoning this Congress and it all comes down to President Trump.”

Republicans, meanwhile, blasted Democrats for what they saw as holding the government “hostage” over illegal immigration. President Trump accused the Democrats of “holding our Military hostage” over their desire for “unchecked illegal immigration.”

The White House pushed back on Schumer's account of the White House meeting. Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney said at a briefing that Schumer had in fact offered only $1.8 billion in funding for the wall, far short of the approximately $20 billion Trump wanted. Mulvaney said Schumer still told Trump that he was giving him everything he wanted.

“Does it even become profitable to work with someone like that?” Mulvaney asked reporters.

A sign of the bitterness of the blame game came from the White House comments line, where a voicemail blamed Democrats for users being unable to use the line.

“Thank you for calling the White House, unfortunately, we cannot answer your call today because congressional Democrats are withholding government funding, including funding for our troops and other national security priorities, hostage to an unrelated immigration debate. Due to this obstruction, our government is shut down,” the voicemail said.

Both sides seemed unable to find common ground on the central issue of disagreement, DACA. Congressional lawmakers and the White House said they were not budging on DACA until the government was funded.

“The President will not negotiate on immigration reform until Democrats stop playing games and reopen the government," White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders said in a statement.

On the Democratic side, in addition to Schumer's remarks about wall funding, Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., said that while he would not vote for a CR that did not include a DACA fix, he would vote for one that included a DACA fix and a border wall.

“At this point, I’m not supporting any CR that doesn’t include a fix. Now what I am telling you is, if that fix includes a wall, I’m ready,” he said.

Senator Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said in a statement that he believed that a compromise was close and suggested a compromise that would fund the government through Feb. 8, with a commitment for the Senate to move to an immigration debate.

“After my discussions with numerous senators on both sides of the last night it is clear to me a commitment to move to immigration after February 8th is the key to ending the government shutdown and finding resolution on all the outstanding issues,” Graham said.

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Fox News’ Joseph Weber, Ed Henry, Chad Pergram, Jenny Buchholz and The Associated Press contributed to this report.




Basically, Democrats feel they represent illegal immigrants more than they represent the taxpayers and voters who elected them. They deny pay to the soldiers defending our country, to give something unearned to people who broke our laws to be here.

And who are more often criminals and welfare dependents who if given amnesty, will continue to be a welfare-dependent permanent underclass because they are more often high school dropouts who don't pursue higher education.


Hey, makes perfect sense to me!

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No one cares... \:\(


Really?!?

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I think you need to post about how great Trump's leadership has been at causing this shutdown. And the great leadership continues, lol


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Trump made Schumer cave in a spectacular fashion that even the left/MSM is forced to admit to:

WASHINGTON — Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell doesn't smile much.

But as the Kentucky Republican sat in his chair on the Senate floor Monday, listening to Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., announce that Democrats would vote to reopen the federal government, his lips spread into a nearly ear-to-ear grin.

He looked like the cat that had just swallowed the Democratic Party.

What McConnell knew — and what infuriated Democratic activists across the country were just finding out — was that Schumer's strategy of shutting down the government to force President Donald Trump and congressional Republicans into locking in an immigration deal had failed in epic fashion.

Not only did Schumer come up short of getting a deal to prevent the deportation of "Dreamers" — people brought to this country illegally when they were children — but he divided a Democratic Party that had previously been unified. And he let Trump and McConnell walk away from it all as the clear winners on politics, policy and strategy.

The move immediately drew the wrath of immigrant-rights activists and the party's left wing.

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Trump didn't do anything except get in the way imho. You may enjoy it but it wasn't good leadership for the country. And considering all this was for 3 weeks of funding I don't think anybody won.


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You don't have to like Trump to realize Schumer lost this one. Trump held his ground. Schumer ended up basically giving away the store...and he embarrassed himself over what you yourself described as little more than three weeks of government funding.

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I doubt Schumer will be leading any more shutdowns. He exhausted his street-cred on this one, and can't afford to lose again.

Probably not a surprise to anyone, I don't support giving any legal status to DACA "kids" (a misnomer, their average age is 26). They are mostly welfare recipients, who have a far lesser ratio of high school graduation and college graduation, as compared to U.S. citizens. A study released over the last week conducted in Arizona shows DACAs commit crime and have gang membership at roughly twice the rate of U.S. citizens.

The estimates of DACAs in the U.S. is officially 700,000-800,000, but those who aren't advocates have made estimates much higher, up to 3.5 million.
And beyond that, if you give DACAs legal status, that creates a path toward citizenship for their illegal parents who brought them here, plus chain migration for their entire extended family. I would not support any DACA amnesty that doesn't close every one of those doors.

And even WITH those doors closed, that's still roughly 800,000 or more amnesty recipients who will vote overwhelmingly Democrat, regardless of whether it is Republicans who let them stay here. Because Democrats will ALWAYS have more lenient immigration policy, and DACAs/illegals favor whatever party makes it easier to move their entire family here.

The only thing that prevents Democrats (and establishment Republicans like Lindsey Graham) from allowing every last one of them amnesty is their accountability to voters who overwhelmingly oppose it. Thank God Trump is president, and on our side. I hope Trump holds out for all the above.
And I would like one further provision, that if any DACA has committed any crime or misdemeanor, any gang history, if they are on welfare or have been, and are therefore not a contributing asset to the United States as productive citizens, that would exclude them from any amnesty deal. That should cut the DACAs down by at least half. And also a provision that it is amnesty for just them, and doesn't create a path toward citizenship for their illegal parents who brought them, or for their extended family. No chain migration in the deal.

The consideration is never about what's right for Democrats, it's about whatever gives Democrats aa permanent majority. Both as the initial 1 or 3 million new naturalized DACA voters to tip the scaled for Dems, and going forward as a gushing stream of new Hispanic immigrants through chain migration, to give Democrats an ever-increasing bloc of welfare-dependent guaranteed big-state Democrat voters. That can not be allowed to happen.

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G-man partly covered it, but....


Trump signs bill ending government shutdown after 3 days

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The federal government will be open for business Tuesday after President Trump signed a bill funding the government until Feb. 8.





Trump signed the measure Monday evening, hours after the House and Senate approved the package by wide margins as Senate Democrats backed off their opposition.

Democrats agreed to re-open the government after Republicans assured them the Senate would soon consider legislation that would protect illegal immigrants brought to the United States as children. It was a stark contrast from the Senate Democratic position just a few days ago.




“In a few hours, the government will reopen,” Senate Minority Leader Sen. Chuck Schumer, a New York Democrat, said on the Senate floor on Monday.

The Senate then voted 81-18 to break a Democratic filibuster on the stalled government spending bill. Several hours later, the Senate approved the bill by the same margin and the House followed suit, 266-150.

"I am pleased that Democrats in Congress have come to their senses and are now willing to fund our great military, border patrol, first responders and insurance for vulnerable children,” Trump said in a written statement.

During Monday’s press briefing, White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders said the administration expects the bill to make it to the president’s desk late Monday and the government to open at full capacity on Tuesday morning.

Sanders pushed back against the notion from Democrats that Trump wasn't doing enough behind the scenes during the shutdown. She said Trump was busy working the phones with lawmakers and Cabinet officials.

“The president was putting pressure and standing firm on exactly what he was willing to do and what he wasn't,” Sanders said. “And it very clearly worked.”
The funding and reopening of the government would allow U.S. military personnel to be paid, end the furlough of nearly 1 million federal workers and resume all federal services and operations.

After days and weeks of blaming and finger-pointing, a bipartisan group of senators met Sunday and brokered the deal in which rank-and-file members would provide the 60 votes in exchange for Senate leaders' promise to immediately proceed to immigration reform.

Democrats largely had opposed the stopgap spending bill because it did not include provisions to protect the illegal immigrants from deportation under former President Barack Obama’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals executive order. Trump last year set a deadline of early March to end the protections, but has indicated he wants to provide permanent protections for the young illegal immigrants -- along with border security, particularly funding for his U.S.-Mexico border walll.

Under the apparent deal to end the filibuster, Schumer said Monday they would negotiate on immigration, and immediately consider such legislation if there’s no agreement by Feb. 8.

With Republicans having just 50 senators available to vote Monday, they needed the support of roughly a dozen Democratic senators to break the filibuster. They got 33.

The 18 senators who didn’t vote to end debate included Republican Sens. Mike Lee, of Utah, and Rand Paul, of Kentucky.

The 15 Democrats in opposition were Sen. Richard Blumenthal and Chris Murphy, both of Connecticut; Cory Booker and Bob Menendez, both of New Jersey; Catherine Cortez Masto, of Nevada; Kirsten Gillibrand, of New York; Mazie Hirono, of Hawaii; Patrick Leahy, of Vermont; Ed Markey and Elizabeth Warren, both of Massachusetts; Jon Tester, of Montana; Ron Wyden and Jeff Merkley, both of Oregon; and Kamala Harris and Dianne Feinstein, both of California. Sen. Bernie Sanders, a Vermont independent, also voted in opposition.

Arizona GOP Sen. John McCain did not vote because he’s home fighting cancer.



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Poor Chuck-you Schumer. He's even got Jimmy "Crying Vagina" Kimmel mad at him now:



At least he still has MEM... ;\)

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Yeah, now that he's roundly shamed by all sides for completely caving in and being weak, Sen. Schumer is trying to walk it back and feign toughness.


SCHUMER HAS RESCINDED OFFER TO TRUMP ON BORDER WALL

To use the ethnic term of Schumer's own people: What a schmuck.

Schumer has absolutely nothing to offer but posturing. Likewise Pelosi and her "Armageddon" hysteria if tax reform was signed. I guess we should hope that Schumer and Pelosi lead the Dems forever, because there's no way they will ever rally any support outside the M E M-base of their own party. And if they were to step down, crazy left/ muslim radicals like Keith Ellison and the Soros base are waiting in the wings to take the party even further away from what's left of what used to be Reagan-Democrat white working class voters.

What are now known as Trump voters.

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
Poor Chuck-you Schumer. He's even got Jimmy "Crying Vagina" Kimmel mad at him now:



At least he still has MEM... ;\)


I'm actually the one of us not going with my party'e spin. As posted just above I didn't think there were any winners. Not sure why your calling Kimmel names. You can disagree with somebody without attacking them. I think it took a lot of courage to do what he did when pushed for children's health care. The shame of it all is that used to be a bipartisan issue like immigration.


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I apologize for mistakenly presuming your opinion before you gave it, M E M.

In the case of Kimmel, I have contempt for him because he is a comedian, and it is not his job to make political diatribes (that clearly alienate half of his potential audience from the outset). If he were saying these things in an interview on Entertainment Tonight or some other celebrity program, or in a magazine interview, okay. But as Laura Ingraham quoted years ago from an audience getting lectured by the Dixie Chicks about W. Bush at a concert, "Shut up and sing!"

Johnny Carson and Jay Leno talked politics on their shows too, but not in a partisan way that alienated half their audience, and not in a style that wasn't in any way funny or clever.

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No need to apologize but as I said before I didn't see any winners a couple of posts ago. This wasn't something I just posted. As for Kimmel, at least he can be entertaining, Ingraham not so much. She specializes in being a talking head for the far right and picks her targets because of politics. Kimmel.as G brought up isn't constrained by attacking just one side. Who's being more honest?


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... but as I said before I didn't see any winners...


I largely agree with this too. Republicans/Trump certainly won this round, but it is a three week reprieve, and not a long-term win like, say, the Gorsuch appointment or Trump's tax reform legislation. But in 3 weeks it could be. I'm optimistic the Democrats will be more timid about another shutdown in 3 weeks.

I disagree about Ingraham and Kimmel. I'd agree that Ingraham is firmly on the right, but she has been a strident critic of Republican failures. She condemned the GOP for not being able to defeat Obama in 2012, basically saying that if Romney could not defeat an incumbent Democrat with as disastrous a record as Obama's, the Republican party "might as well fold up the tent" and dissolve the party. She was especially critical of Romney political advisers who tried to blame his loss on someone else. More recently, she has been very critical of establishment Republicans who won't support, and even undermine, Trump's nationalist/populist/economic agenda, specifically Republicans like John McCain, Jeff Flake, and Lindsey Graham. She is not a robotic supporter of whatever the GOP is selling, but of more conservative positions that best serve the nation and its people. And she can be quite funny. Likewise Rush Limbaugh, O'Reilly (when he was on Fox), Beck (likewise when he was on his game) Carlson and Hannity. That's part of their appeal, that they entertain and make you laugh, even as they discuss serious issues. Hannity had an editorial a few nights ago calling CNN "the sh**hole network", for their fondness for using the term, literally hundreds of times in a single day on CNN.

Kimmel lately has been a bit weepy and preachy, and even comedian pundits I agree with who do this (even though I agree on the issues) repulse me. Their job is comendy, not angry commentary.
As I said, when Johnny Carson and Jay Leno addressed political issues, they did it in a way that you could be of either ideological side, and still laugh, still find it funny, because it was not angrily tethered to the Democrat side. But over the last 10 years or so late-night "comedy" has become a lot less funny, even as it has clearly aligned to the Democrat side. As in the examples of Jon Stewart, Bill Maher, Steven Colbert, David Lettermen, and the aforementioned Jimmy Kimmel.

There are times where comedians like Greg Gutfeld and Dennis Miller have done angry rants that weren't funny as well. But in their cases, unlike the liberal comedians, they do a lot better overall job of reigning their excesses in and just keeping it funny, without coming across as angry and pushing one party.

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The last few days a "caravan of refugees" of somewhere around 1,000 has been front page news on Fox for several days, coming up from Central America, passing through Mexico apparently unrestrained in their move toward the U.S. border.

Yesterday (4-3-2018, Tuesday) both Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity both had a lot of statistics on illegal immigrants. About 59% of all illegal immigrants come from Mexico. About 15% (probably higher now, since that most recent statistic) from Central America. Including the Caribbean and South America, Hispanics are collectively over 81% of all illegal immigration.
Carlson also quotes a more recent version of a poll I cited years ago (as sourced from Buchanan's book STATE OF EMERGENCY on illegal immigration) that the vast majority of Mexicans who immigrate to the U.S., both legally and illegally, have an overwhelmingly negative opinion of the U.S. and Americans, whereas Americans polled generally have a favorable opinion of Mexicans as hard workers with good ethics. Despite that Mexico is a very corrupt government that is overrun by drug cartels.

Carlson also cites facts about the racism and brutality of the Mexican government, run by a white elite who are mostly educated in U.S. Ivy League schools, even as the Mexican government accuses the U.S. of "racism" in the U.S.'s deportation of illegals.
And less clearly than I said it previously, that the Mexican government, while poor relative to the U.S., is actually quite wealthy, the 40th most wealthy country on earth, hope to about 50 billionaires, and that its two largest sources of income are (1) oil revenue, and (2) wire transfers of cash from Mexicans in the U.S. (legally and illegally) back to their families in Mexico. That the Mexican government is more than capable of providing welfare and education to its poor, but instead encorrages the discontented to (legally AND illegally) immigrate to the U.S.
And Carlson even shows two Mexican government ads and brochures showing Mexicans how to illegally cross the border. Buchanan further, in STATE OF EMERGENCY, tells of a Mexican government brochure that beyond crossing, even instructs illegals how to apply for welfare benefits once in the U.S.!


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Another article I posted earlier, by black conservative columnist Larry Elder:

HOW DOES MEXICO TREAT ITS ILLEGALS?


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"We can't infringe upon the right of people to move freely within our territory," said Mexican President Vicente Fox during President George W. Bush's recent visit. Earlier, Fox said he stood by the statement he previously made to the BBC: "I dare say that in 10 years, the U.S. will be begging, will be pleading with Mexico to send it workers."
Does Mexico practice what it preaches?

First, Mexico put its military and police forces on its porous, zigzagged, mountainous, crime-ridden southern border with Guatemala. Chiapas -- the South Carolina-sized southern Mexican state that shares the longest border with Guatemala -- is Mexico's poorest, most illiterate state. About Chiapas, one United Nations human rights commissioner said, "Mexico is one of the countries where illegal immigrants are highly vulnerable to human rights violations and become victims of degrading sexual exploitation and slavery-like practices, and are denied access to education and health care."

Typically, when Mexican authorities catch illegal aliens, they place them overnight in a detention center, then bus or fly them back to their country of origin. Despite the fact that Mexico militarized its border and deported 203,128 illegal immigrants in 2004, many illegals get through by bribing corrupt military and police.

Do Mexicans appreciate the way America has allowed so many poor, Mexican illegals to enter the United States? No. According to a recent Zogby poll, 73 percent of Mexicans call Americans "racist"! When asked whether the United States' wealth comes from freedom and "plenty of opportunity to work," 70 percent of Americans agreed, while only 22 percent of Mexicans agreed. Sixty-two percent of Mexicans said America became wealthy because "it exploits others' wealth."



While Americans, according to the poll, see Mexicans as hard-working (78 percent), Mexicans think of Americans as racist, intolerant and not very hard-working.

Racist?

Mexico should look in the mirror. According to the Houston Chronicle's Rachel Graves, around the turn of the 17th century, Mexico imported more African slaves than anywhere else in the New World. As a result, tens of thousands of blacks (no one knows for sure -- the Mexican census does not recognize them) live in Mexico, mostly in destitute villages in its poorest states. An estimated 30,000 to 40,000 blacks live in Costa Chica.

How do they fare? According to the Houston Chronicle, many are illiterate, struggling to get a decent education for their children from government schools. One Costa Chica missionary says, "The kids here are considered by their teachers to be largely unteachable." When stopped by the police, Mexican blacks are often instructed to sing the Mexican national anthem to prove their citizenship!

If so many Mexicans consider Americans racist, why do polls show that nearly half of Mexico's inhabitants say that their lives would improve if they could work here illegally?

Intolerant?

America legally accepts about one million immigrants per year, with perhaps as many as 12 million people living here illegally, about half of whom come from Mexico. Many estimate that 500,000 or more people enter the country illegally every year. California Lieutenant Governor Cruz Bustamante is Hispanic. So is the man who holds the powerful position of speaker of the California Assembly. Los Angeles, America's second-largest city, has a Hispanic mayor, and of the 54 members of California's congressional delegation, nine are Hispanic. The former governor of California once proposed granting driver's licenses to illegals. And in California, under some circumstances, an illegal alien can apply for the cheaper in-state college tuition. Many predict the Hispanic governor of New Mexico, Bill Richardson, former Clinton Cabinet member, will run for president.



While the U.S. and Mexican political leaders listed have changed in 12 years, the hypocrisy remains the same.




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