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#1228931 - Thu May 30 2019 10:40 PM Reasons why the Mueller investigation is completely illegitimate
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This is a topic I've thought of creating for a very long time.

The examples of corruption and violations of legal procedure and protocol in the very forming of the Mueller investigation are abundant and audaciously brazen.


In the beginning... there was James Comey. Through fraudulent means, Comey manipulated to create a call for a special investigation by leaking information through a college professor friend (and sometimes subordinate FBI contract employee) to leak documents for Comey, and create pseudo-spontaneous demand for a special investigation of Trump.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/21/jim-comey-memos-mueller/

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James Comey claimed in an op-ed Thursday that he does not care one way or the other whether special counsel Robert Mueller finds evidence that President Donald Trump conspired with Russia to influence the 2016 election or obstructed the FBI’s collusion probe.

But the claim, which Comey made in The New York Times, is at odds with the former FBI director’s testimony about his actions shortly after being fired by Trump in May 2017.

Comey testified to the Senate Intelligence Committee that he leaked memos he wrote after conversations with Trump in order to force the appointment of a special counsel.

"I asked a friend of mine to share the content of a memo with the reporter, I didn't do it myself for a variety of reasons, but I asked him to because I thought that might prompt the appointment of a special counsel," Comey testified June 8, 2017.

Comey instructed his friend, Daniel Richman, to give the [New York] Times a memo he wrote about a conversation he had with Trump on February 14, 2017. Comey claimed Trump asked him to shut down an investigation of former national security advisor Michael Flynn.

Comey's ploy worked, as Robert Mueller was appointed special counsel May 17, 2017.



So from the very outset the special investigation was born in deception.



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#1228932 - Thu May 30 2019 11:02 PM Re: Reasons why the Mueller investigation is completely illegitimate [Re: Wonder Boy]
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Next is Rod Rosenstein's oversight of the investigation.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions recused himself for reasons I still don't understand, almost immediately after becoming AG, ultimately to avoid any appearance of bias in the investigation. Apparently because Sessions was introduced (by a Democrat) and shook hands with the Russian ambassador for maybe 60 seconds and didn't disclose that meeting when asked at his confirmation hearing.
Acting in Sessions' place, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein then appointed Robert Mueller to lead the special investigation.

First off, Rosenstein has far more conflict of interest than Sessions. Rosenstein, Mueller, and Comey are all friends and have worked together for over 20 years, and have acted as each other's wingmen. That alone should have recused Rosenstein from participating in the investigation, let alone appointing Mueller, a close personal friend.

Second, Rosenstein is one of the officials who signed off on at least one of the four illegal FISA warrants to spy on Carter Page (and through Page, the entire circle of his phone and e-mail communications within the Trump campaign, surveillance of conversations with everyone he communicated with). Submitting knowingly false evidence (the Russia Dosser as "verified") to a federal judge is a prosecutable federal crime. So Rosenstein is ultimately participating in an investigation of a case in which he will ultimately be a defendant. Rosenstein is at once supervising the investigation, a witness to what occurred in the FBI's investigation, and a potential defendant in the investigation.


Already, we have corruption and conflict of interest up the yingyang.

Rosenstein only recently ceased to control the investigation, ending with the appointment of Willam Barr as the new attorney general in Feb 2019.
And Rosenstein finally resigned and finished his last day as Deputy Attorney General of the DOJ just about two weeks ago, on May 11, 2019.


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#1228933 - Thu May 30 2019 11:14 PM Re: Reasons why the Mueller investigation is completely illegitimate [Re: Wonder Boy]
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Next is the appointment of Robert Mueller as special counsel of the investigation.

1. Mueller again is part of the inner circle of friends within the FBI who protect each other.

2. and THE SAME DAY Mueller interviewed with President Trump and was rejected for the FBI director position from which Comey (Mueller's friend again) was just fired, Rosenstein appointed Mueller to lead the special investigation. Both being an ally of Comey, and being rejected by Trump for the FBI director position are AT LEAST two reasons Mueller had to be hostile towar Trump in the investigation. More conflict of interest.

3. Further undermining Mueller's credibility is that he was previously FBI director for President George W. Bush, and expanding on exiting FBI director Tenet who infamously assured Bush that the Iraq invasion would be a "slam dunk", Mueller similarly continued the negligence and corruption that preceded his term as director. Plus many other corrupt and questionable actions throughout his career.
https://consortiumnews.com/2019/05/29/russia-gates-mythical-heroes/
Democrats hated and vilified Mueller for years over this. But now that he's a weapon to attack a Republican, President Trump, he suddenly has 100% spotless credibility again.

4. Mueller also has a past case involving Russia where he gained ccoperation of a Russian oligarch that opens up another conflict of interest.
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/...ussian-oligarch


5. There's also the stained credibility of Mueller's previous convictions for 2 decades in the FBI along with Andrew Weissmann, in multiple cases such as prosecution of Enron and Arthur Andersen executives, where Mueller and Weissmann deliberately witheld exculpatory evidence and deliberately imprisoned innocent men, and (a familiar pattern to any follower of the Mueller special investigation) partially convicted them using perjury traps. Convictions which were, by the way, overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court by a 9-0 vote. Two of the men died in prison before their convictions were overturned. These are the prosecutors trusted to depose President Trump under oath.


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#1228935 - Thu May 30 2019 11:50 PM Re: Reasons why the Mueller investigation is completely illegitimate [Re: Wonder Boy]
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That's not even getting into the Democrat-partisan bias of these officials.

It's an easy trick to register as a Republican and yet consistently vote Democrat. In the case of news reporters, they similarly front, "Oh hey, I don't have liberal bias, I'm a registered Republican!"
But as in the last election, many reporters front to be Independent or Republican, but an investigation of how they actually voted, or who they donated to, 96% of reporter donations went to the Hillary Clinton campaign.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/what-...hillary-clinton

James Comey (after his firing as FBI director) in a 60 Minutes interview admitted that his wife and all his children all voted for Hillary Clinton, and were "deeply invested" in her winning. Asked if he was a Democrat, he responded "if not before, certainly now."

Assistant FBI Director Andrew McCabe likewise demonstrated a Democrat loyalty. McCabe's wife, Jill McCabe ran for office and received $675,000 for her campaaign from Hillary Clinton operative terry MacAuliffe.
https://www.newsweek.com/fbi-acting-director-andrew-mccabe-wife-hillary-clinton-641676

Further, the protection of Andrew McCabe from firing indicates further Democrat influence within the FBI, by another Comey/Mueller/McCabe wingman, newly appointed FBI director Christopher Wray:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_McCabe

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POLITICAL PRESSURE

Starting in July 2017, Trump repeatedly attacked McCabe in Twitter comments, suggesting that Sessions should dismiss McCabe, accusing him of conflicts because of his wife's campaign for state office, and taunting him about "racing the clock" until his retirement.[36][37] In January 2018 it was reported that Attorney General Sessions had been pressuring FBI Director Wray to fire McCabe. However, Wray refused and reportedly threatened to resign if McCabe was removed.[38][39]

The Nunes memo, which alleges improper activities in seeking a warrant to surveil former Trump associate Carter Page, asserts that McCabe "testified before the [House Intelligence] Committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier," a document many Trump supporters insist is completely false. However, McCabe's testimony was in classified session and no public transcript is available to confirm the Nunes memo assertion; disclosing contents of the classified testimony would be unlawful. Democratic Representative Eric Swalwell, a member of the House Intelligence Committee, said the Nunes memo "seriously mischaracterizes the testimony of Deputy Director Andrew McCabe."[40] The Nunes memo also asserts that a text message from Peter Strzok discusses "a meeting with Deputy Director McCabe to discuss an "insurance" policy against President Trump's election." However, The Wall Street Journal reported on December 18, 2017, that Strzok associates said the "insurance policy" meant the FBI continuing its investigation into possible collusion between Trump and Russians, in case Trump won the election.


And of course James Baker, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page and other blatantly Democrat partisan social justice warriors stacking the deck within the FBI's highest positions.


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#1228961 - Wed Jun 05 2019 09:10 AM Re: Reasons why the Mueller investigation is completely illegitimate [Re: Wonder Boy]
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At the center of the Mueller investigation is the Christopher Steele "Russia Dossier" that was used to initiate the Trump/Russia FBI and DOJ investigation.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/...ts-were-flagged

Steele was fired by the FBI, and considered unreliable and partisan. In the last week, it has come to light that British MI-6 intelligence also considers Steele unreliable, and in the post-2016 election transition period, MI-6 sent a letter to both the Obama administration and to the Trump transition team that Steele was unreliable.

But despite that, Steele's "Russia Dossier" was peddled within the FBI and DOJ as fact, and by all appearances was the sole documented evidence used to file FISA surveillance warrants to spy on Carter Page and other Trump officials. (100% of the "evidence", except for two partisan-written articles, both also sourced from the Russia Dossier itself)
Despite that Comey told Trump privately on Jan 6, 2017 the Russia Dossier is "salacious" and "unreliable", it had been used in recent months as false evidence to submit *four* FISA surveillance warrants on Carter Page, despite that they knew with the very first warrant the Russia Dossier evidence was false.

I'm still wondering where the FISA judges are, who should be expressing outrage that they were deceived with false evidence, and should be demanding all that fruit of the poisoned tree be thrown out of court, and any resulting convictions overturned. The longer these judges remain silent, the more convinced I am that they are also Clinton deep state agents helping to break the law.
We already know from Strzok and Page's text messages that Strzok is a friend of one FISA judge Rudolf Contreras, and that they plotted to meet Contreras ex parte at a meeting hidden inside a dinner party social event, to illegally transact their agenda secretly.

That the Mueller report barely mentions:
* Christopher Steele and the Russia Dossier,
* That the Clinton campaign and DNC commissioned and funded the Russia Dossier
* that the Russia Dossier information came directly from Russian state agents paid by the Clinton campaign,
* How Nellie Ohr and Bruce Ohr funneled this "salacious/unreliable" document into the FBI and DOJ through backchannels despite its being discredited used it as the basis for FISA warrants, and
* everyone at the top of FBI/DOJ knew Steele had been fired, and
* even Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Kathleen Kavalec on Oct. 11, 2016 had warned DOJ and FBI in a letter that Steele was an unreliaable partisan, a letter apparently buried by these deep staters in FBI and DOJ.

...that the Mueller report selectively omits all these facts further shatters the credibility of its findings.



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#1228965 - Wed Jun 05 2019 04:09 PM Re: Reasons why the Mueller investigation is completely illegitimate [Re: Wonder Boy]
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As I pointed out before elsewhere, the Mueller special investigation is made up completely of Democrats. 16 lawyers, all Democrats, and 0 Republicans.

And beyond that 11 of the 16 are Democrat campaign donors, several in the thousands of dollars, one in the tens of thousands.
And Jeannie Rhee among those lawyers

EXCLUSIVE: NOT A SINGLE LAWYER KNOWN TO WORK FOR MUELLER IS A REPUBLICAN (Daily Caller)


Lesser-known Democrat 2020 presidential candidate John Delaney today (objecting to campaign donations as a criteria in selecting televised primary debate eligibility) said that only 10% of Americans donate to political campaigns, and that making that a criteria excludes candidates represeentative of the 90% who don't.
That argument could also be used for the selection of lawyers for the Mueller investigation.

It's obscenely partisan, and for all the wailing from Rep. Jerry Nadler and Rep. Adam Schiff about the slightest whiff of conflict of interest by Jeff Sessions or William Barr, they never acknowledge the overwhelming bias and conflict of interest among Mueller, Andrew Weissmann, and their DNC-donating Democrat attorneys.

And if there were anything to find prosecutable about Trump, they would have found it. All the more amazing, for how the cards have been politically stacked against him.



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#1228966 - Wed Jun 05 2019 04:26 PM Re: Reasons why the Mueller investigation is completely illegitimate [Re: Wonder Boy]
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Here's another Daily Caller article from two weeks earlier, focusing on the bias of Aaron Zelinsky in particular, one of Mueller's 16 partisan lawyers.

MUELLER HIRED YET ANOTHER DEMOCRATIC DONOR, THIS ONE'S A FORMER HUFFPOST CONTRIBUTOR


Another well-known partisan lawyer among the 16 is Jeannie Rhee, who was hired directly from the Clinton Foundation. For years she is the Clinton Foundation lawyer who suppresses FOIA requests for Clinton records, and one day after she's hired as a prosecutor and seriously expected to obtain and investigate those records?

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#1229112 - Tue Jun 25 2019 11:29 PM Re: Reasons why the Mueller investigation is completely illegitimate [Re: Wonder Boy]
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Giuliani calls for Mueller to be investigated for destruction of FBI evidence


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By John Solomon



Rudy Giuliani has an unmistakable New Year’s message for special counsel Robert Mueller: It is time for the chief investigator in the Russia case to be investigated in 2019.
In wide-ranging interviews with Hill.TV’s Buck Sexton and me on Wednesday and Thursday, President Trump’s defense lawyer pointedly accused Mueller’s office of destroying evidence by allowing text messages from now-fired FBI official Peter Strzok and his FBI lover, Lisa Page, to be erased in the Russia probe.

“Mueller should be investigated for destruction of evidence for allowing those text messages from Strzok to be erased, messages that would show the state of mind and tactics of his lead anti-Trump FBI agent at the start of his probe,” Giuliani said.
The Justice Department inspector general (IG) reported this month that it found large gaps in the preservation of official government text messages between Strzok and Page, the two top FBI agents who helped to start the Russia probe in 2016, who were having an affair at the time, and who expressed disdain for Trump.

The report said a technical glitch was to blame for the FBI’s failure to save those text messages, but the IG was able to recover more than 19,000 from the early part of the Russia probe before Mueller was named special prosecutor.
However, the IG said it was unable to recover messages from the time Strzok and Page worked for Mueller’s office in spring and summer 2017 because the memories of both FBI officials’ government phones were wiped clean by technicians.

That erasure occurred after Strzok and Page left Mueller’s team over revelations they exchanged anti-Trump text messages, including one string in which they talked about stopping Trump from becoming president.
“That should be investigated, damn it, that should be investigated fully. You want a special counsel, get one for that,” Giuliani said.

When pressed about whether he thought the erasure was intentional and not just a mistake, Giuliani alluded to the infamous erasure of a Watergate tape by President Nixon’s loyal secretary a half-century earlier.
“It’s actually worse than Rose Mary Woods,” he explained. “She erased less than 19 minutes of conversation, but the FBI got rid of more than 19,000 messages," and the messages from the time Strzok and Page worked for Mueller are lost forever.

Giuliani said the Russia probe investigators also should be investigated for using the Christopher Steele dossier, which he called a “piece of garbage,” to justify a search warrant on a Trump adviser without telling the court it was paid for by 2016 presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic Party.
“Do I think that is improper? Yeah, that borders on — that sounds to me a lot more like a false statement than some of the ones they charged,” he said, referring to Mueller’s team.

The former New York City mayor and Republican presidential candidate, who joined Trump’s defense team in 2018, sharply criticized Mueller’s team for allowing what he said were false statements by former Trump attorney Michael Cohen at Cohen’s sentencing a few weeks ago.
“He just lied the other day. He told the judge, ‘I was fiercely loyal to Donald Trump.’ No, he wasn’t. He taped him surreptitiously while he was fiercely loyal. He hid it. And he disclosed it.”

The Mueller prosecutors’ failure to stand up during the sentencing and correct Cohen’s statement “is unethical in and of itself. Making a false statement to a court, even a lawyer, you have to correct it,” Giuliani said.
Giuliani said he is disturbed that the one Cohen tape that has surfaced — in which Cohen and Trump discussed making payments to two women accusers during the 2016 campaign — inexplicably cuts off midway through the conversation.

Giuliani said he believes the missing sections of the conversation include “exculpatory” statements that would prove the president was innocent.
Giuliani expressed hope that the Mueller investigation would end soon, now that Trump has submitted written answers to prosecutors’ questions. He remains confident there is no evidence the president colluded with Russia to hijack the 2016 presidential election.

Giuliani said that, if prosecutors requested additional written answers from Trump, his advice would be for the president not to provide more information to Mueller: “They have everything they need unless they just want to set a perjury trap.”
He said Mueller’s current focus on whether Trump friends such as Roger Stone were communicating with WikiLeaks outside the campaign about hacked Hillary Clinton emails shows just how far astray the probe had gone.

“We’re now four degrees of separation from the original mandate of the investigation, which was collusion which did not occur,” he noted.
When asked whether Mueller should be the last special prosecutor ever appointed by the Justice Department, Giuliani hedged: “I never like to say never, but I must say I have great pause after seeing the abuses in this investigation.”

The FBI, he added, still needs to rehabilitate itself from the damage done by missteps in the Russia probe. Giuliani said he believed that “99 percent of the FBI agents” were doing a great job but that a small group of “FBI politicians” had improperly hijacked the Russia probe during fired Director James Comey’s tenure.
Giuliani said he is uncertain if President Trump’s pick to head the FBI, Director Christopher Wray, could help right the wrongs from the Russia probe. “I’m uncertain because I haven’t heard anything from him. ... The first way you fix problems is by acknowledging them.”

As for Mueller, Giuliani made clear he intends to fight back on every remaining move the special prosecutor makes. The Trump defense team already has drafted a robust document to counter any information Mueller sends to the Justice Department in his final report.
And there’s nothing the defense team is leaving without rebuttal, apparently.

For example, Giuliani said it is ironic that, after investigating Trump for possible obstruction because Trump once suggested the FBI consider going easy on former national security adviser Michael Flynn, Mueller himself asked a federal judge to go easy on Flynn by awarding no prison time.
“Maybe Mueller needs to investigate himself for obstruction on Flynn like he did my client,” the former mayor said wryly.

He was joking on that one. But don't expect any laughs on the disappearance of the Strzok text messages or Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act abuses. On those issues, "America’s mayor" is all business.

__________________________________________

John Solomon is an award-winning investigative journalist whose work over the years has exposed U.S. and FBI intelligence failures before the Sept. 11 attacks, federal scientists’ misuse of foster children and veterans in drug experiments, and numerous cases of political corruption. He is The Hill’s executive vice president for video.



It was revealed today that Mueller and Weissmann failed to disclose exculpatory evidence that would have proven the innocence of Pappadapoulos and Michael Flynn. And that Mueller had conversations with Bruce Ohr (DOJ) in mid 2016 that indicate Mueller knew very early on, even at the time the Trump special investigation began, that (as Peter Strzok said in his text messages) that all involved in the investigation knew "There's no 'there' there."

Indicating the true purpose of the investigation was not lawful from the outset, and only a pseudo-legal conspiracy to destroy Trump's presidency.





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#1229253 - Tue Jul 23 2019 06:42 PM Re: Reasons why the Mueller investigation is completely illegitimate [Re: Wonder Boy]
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PAGE AND STRZOK TEXT: "POTUS WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING WE ARE DOING", PREPARING COMEY REPORT FOR OBAMA, IN SEPT 2016

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Lisa Page, the FBI official accused of harboring an anti-Trump bias, sent a text message in September 2016 saying that then-President Obama wanted "to know everything" about the FBI's probe into Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server.

The text message exchange with Peter Strzok, another FBI official with whom she was having an affair, contains a message from Page about preparing talking points for then-FBI Director James Comey to give to Obama.

The exchange, in which Strzok wrote that Obama "wants to know everything we’re doing," was included in a report released Tuesday by Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) and Republican staff on the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.

Fox News first reported on the exchange on Wednesday.

That report states that the text message exchange raises questions about Obama's personal involvement in the investigation into Clinton's email use. Republican lawmakers have raised concerns about the Obama administration's handling of that probe.

"Although sometimes cryptic and disjointed due to their nature, these text messages raise several questions about the FBI and its investigation of classified information on Secretary Clinton’s private email server," the report says.

What exactly Obama wanted to know about the investigation — if anything — is unclear.

President Trump quickly seized on the report.
“NEW FBI TEXTS ARE BOMBSHELLS!” he tweeted.

Page and Strzok have come under fire in recent months after the discovery of text messages between the two that showed them criticizing President Trump and Republicans, more broadly.

Republicans have pointed to the text messages as evidence of bias among federal law enforcement officials.

Both Page and Strzok briefly worked on special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, though Page's detail on the team ended before the messages were discovered. Strzok was removed from the investigation after the Justice Department became aware of the texts.

The report by Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee Republicans came days after Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee released a controversial memo accusing the FBI and Justice Department of misusing their authority to obtain a secret surveillance order against Carter Page, a former foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign.

That memo has been the subject of controversy, with Democrats arguing that it omits key facts that are necessary to put the information in the proper context.

The Intelligence panel voted on Monday to release a Democratic memo rebutting the Republican document. Trump must now decide whether to OK the Democratic rebuttal for release.



It's pretty hard to argue:
1) There was not a conspiracy of rabidly anti-Trump partisans in FBI, DOJ, CIA, DNI, the State Dept, collaborating directly with the Obama White House and with Obama himself.
and
2) That there wasn't deep state/Democrat conspiracy to protect Hillary from prosecution, to get her elected president, to discredit Trump and prevent his election, and as a fallback plan "insurance policy", to cripple, smear and unseat an elected president Trump.

Deliciously, that plan by corrupt Democrats failed at multiple stages.


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    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.

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#1230069 - Sat Oct 26 2019 08:32 PM Re: Reasons why the Mueller investigation is completely illegitimate [Re: Wonder Boy]
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TRUMP SAYS GREATEST REGRET OF HIS PRESIDENCY WAS APPOINTING JEFF SESSIONS


Trump said this a few months ago now, but that is what stalled investigation of the Russia Hoax, and allowed Rod Rosenstein, in Sessions' recusal, to appoint a special investigation headed by Mueller (and we now know that Mueller was incompetent, and the real leader of the Mueller Investigation was Andrew Weissmann.)

All the aggravation that could have been avoided, and enebling of Trump's deep state enemies, if Sessions had never been appointed.

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