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#1229566 - Wed Aug 21 2019 06:13 PM Trump's idea to purchase Greenland from Denmark. No, seriously.
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IN DENMARK, BEWILDERMENT AND ANGER AT TRUMP'S CANCELLED VISIT (New York Times)

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ODENSE, Denmark — The astonishment in Denmark over President Trump’s apparent desire to buy Greenland turned to bewilderment and anger on Wednesday after the American leader abruptly scrapped a state visit because the Danes have no desire to sell.

The cancellation was a rare snub of Denmark’s head of state, Queen Margrethe II, who had extended the invitation to the president and would have hosted him and the first lady.

Mr. Trump further strained ties on Wednesday, calling the Danish prime minister’s rejection of the idea “nasty.”

News that Mr. Trump had called off his visit “came as a surprise,” the Royal House’s communications director told the state broadcaster, adding, “That’s all we have to say about that.”


Others, however, had more to say. “Is this some sort of joke?” Helle Thorning-Schmidt, a former prime minister, wrote on Twitter. “Deeply insulting to the people of Greenland and Denmark.”

It was not a joke. A day earlier, Mr. Trump said on Twitter that Denmark was “a very special country with incredible people” but added that he was abandoning plans to visit because of the country’s refusal to sell Greenland, a semiautonomous part of the kingdom of Denmark.

Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen had said she had no interest in discussing the sale of Greenland. “Greenland is not Danish. Greenland belongs to Greenland,” Ms. Frederiksen told a Danish newspaper this week. “I strongly hope that this is not meant seriously.”

Speaking to reporters at the White House on Wednesday, Mr. Trump said that the prime minister had been “nasty” when she described the suggestion as “an absurd discussion.”


He added, “You don’t talk to the United States that way.”

Ms. Frederiksen, asked about his remarks on Danish television, said, “I’m not going to enter a war of words with anybody, nor with the American president.”
She said she found the Danish response to the president’s visit and its cancellation “good and wise.”

On Sunday, Mr. Trump said the idea of buying Greenland has been discussed in his administration because of the strategic benefits and in part because of its natural resources, like coal and uranium. He also suggested that the territory was a financial burden to Denmark.

“Essentially, it’s a large real estate deal,” Mr. Trump told reporters on Sunday of his interest in buying Greenland. “A lot of things can be done. It’s hurting Denmark very badly, because they’re losing almost $700 million a year carrying it. So they carry it at a great loss.”

Greenland’s government is in charge of most aspects of its affairs except foreign policy and defense. Local governments have not managed to develop a sustainable economy and receive more than 50 percent of the island’s budget in direct subsidies topped with additional Danish spending on defense and enforcement of sovereignty. The total bill amounts to $740 million annually.

The idea of buying Greenland, which came to light last week, had been immediately and flatly rejected by leaders in Greenland and Denmark, who found themselves in the odd position at the time of having to publicly state that “Greenland is not for sale.”

On Wednesday, disbelief and condemnation echoed through the political landscape, as it began to sink in that Mr. Trump wasn’t kidding.

“Please stop,” Martin Lidegaard, head of the foreign affairs committee in Parliament, wrote on Twitter, before citing several other areas of discussion that he said should be of interest to both countries: the Arctic, climate change and the Middle East.

“Total chaos,” the former finance minister Kristian Jensen wrote. “This has gone from a great opportunity for a strengthened dialogue between allies to a diplomatic crisis.”

Before Mr. Trump canceled his visit, Ms. Frederiksen told a television reporter on Sunday in Nuuk, the capital of Greenland: “Thankfully, the time where you buy and sell other countries and populations is over. Let’s leave it there.” She also added, “Jokes aside, we would naturally love to have an even closer strategic relationship with the U.S.”
But on Wednesday, Ms. Frederiksen acknowledged to reporters that the cancellation had been a surprise and “unusual,” and that she “regretted” it.

Adding to the already considerable awkwardness, Mr. Trump’s announcement that he was canceling his trip came not long after the American ambassador, Carla Sands, wrote on Twitter that Denmark was excited about the president’s visit.


  • Denmark is ready for the POTUS @realDonaldTrump visit! Partner, ally, friend 🇺🇸🇩🇰 pic.twitter.com/6VEtR1mbay
    Ambassador Carla Sands (@USAmbDenmark) August 20, 2019



The New York Times reacted with scorn and negative spin about Trump's wish to purchase Greenland.

Yeah, I know... that the New York Times would write a negative story about Trump.
Gee, what a shock.


But two presidents before Trump have proposed buying Greenland, hardly an outrageously new idea. Truman even offered a cash price for Greenland.
And we've had bases there since World War II, most significantly early warning radar to prepare for incoming Russian missiles over the polar region.

And in both this article and elsewhere, I've seen that Denmark operates Greenland at a deficit cost of $700 billion a year.

And for other strategic reasons it's logical for the U.S. to desire purchasing it. China as well has expressed interest in investing heavily in mining there. A beach-head uncomfortably close to the U.S., which makes it a strategic move for the U.S. to purchase and prevent that.


Greenland is about 836,000 square miles.
Population about 55,000, about 88% Inuit indian, 12% European/Danish.

If Trump were to successfully purchase Greenland, it would be the third largest land addition to U.S. territory, behind the U.S. Southwest by John Tyler and James K.Polk from 1845-1848, the Louisiana Purchase by Jefferson in 1803. And purchase of Greenland would be larger than the 1867 purchase of Alaska under Andrew Johnson.

It would make the U.S. significantly larger than Canada, China or Brazil (all of which presently are roughly the same size as the U.S.) and the U.S. would become the second largest nation on earth, second only to Russia.

So... it's not stupid, it's not unprecedented, and it has mutual advantages for both the U.S. and Denmark.

And Greenland has been moving further toward autonomy and independence in recent decades anyway. It is in Denmark's interest to sell Greenland, while it is still theirs to sell.


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#1229567 - Wed Aug 21 2019 06:34 PM Re: Trump's idea to purchase Greenland from Denmark. No, seriously. [Re: Wonder Boy]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland

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#1229747 - Sat Sep 21 2019 11:55 AM Re: Trump's idea to purchase Greenland from Denmark. No, seriously. [Re: Wonder Boy]
Wonder Boy
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During the aftermath of Hurricane Dorian, I saw news stories that China has likewise made huge investments in the Bahamas as well, in an effort to economically take control of it, and likewise use that region to potentially threaten the United States militarily.

As they are attempting in Greenland.

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