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#651662 - Sun Mar 26 2006 12:48 AM Edwards in 08?
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With an Eye on Politics, Edwards Makes Poverty His Cause

    As he sought the Democratic Party's presidential nomination in 2004 and later as John Kerry's running mate, John Edwards talked about poverty more than any other candidate.

    But when he spoke on the campaign trail about what he referred to as the "two Americas," he told a conference on poverty here this week, "people called it a downer."

    Now Mr. Edwards, a former senator from North Carolina and a presumed contender for his party's 2008 presidential nomination, has made curbing poverty the centerpiece of his work and his political approach.

    This is his true passion, he said in an interview, and he thinks that voters may be more responsive in the coming years, both because the middle class is becoming less secure and because of a shared sense of fairness.

    Mr. Edwards was the organizer and the most assiduous note-taker at the poverty conference, sponsored by the Center on Poverty, Work and Opportunity at the University of North Carolina, an organization that he founded and directs.

    The meeting drew more than 200 scholars and leaders of private antipoverty agencies to discuss issues like the problems of the working poor and the effects globalization has on labor.

    The challenge, Mr. Edwards and other speakers said, is not just to devise better ways to fight poverty but to find strategies with broad appeal.

    Some of the scholars offered, if not cheerful data, themes that they said might grab the attention of middle-income Americans. Many of the same economic trends that hurt the poor, the experts said, are also creating "a harsh new world of economic insecurity for middle-class families," in the words of Jacob S. Hacker, a political scientist at Yale.

    Mr. Hacker described a decline in shared safety nets, like health insurance, that leave more families confronting medical crises or job losses without assistance.

    Rising costs for housing, health care and other necessities have affected middle-class families as well as the poor, said Elizabeth Warren, an expert on family bankruptcy and a law professor at Harvard. Even with more mothers now working outside the home, Ms. Warren said, families have more debt, fewer reserves and more volatile incomes than they did a few decades ago.

    Several scholars lamented the racial and class disparities in family assets, including home equity and other savings, a topic that receives less attention than those disparities in income. Income is used to get by, they said, but assets provide a safety net and a means to climb ahead. Helping low-income people buy homes and using tax credits to encourage savings accounts were among the potential answers put forth.

    In interviews, several scholars said they were grateful for the chance to discuss research and issues, though they said they knew that Mr. Edwards was most likely banking ideas for a political campaign.

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#651663 - Fri Nov 17 2006 03:27 PM Edwards' Wal-Mart Flip Flop [Re: the G-man]
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John Edwards in August:

    Former Democratic vice presidential candidate John Edwards gave a stump speech in the Hill District yesterday, saying Wal-Mart, the retail giant, underpays its workers.

    The speech was part of a nationwide tour by a group called Wake Up Wal-Mart, which is demanding that the company provide better pay and more health care for its more than 1 million employees.


John Edwards in November:

    Just like the millions of Americans who turn to their neighborhood Wal-Mart for their holiday shopping needs, Wal-Mart announced today that former Sen. John Edwards is seeking to be one of the first to get a Sony PlayStation3, one of the most coveted holiday gift items this Christmas season.

    Yesterday, a staff person for former Sen. Edwards contacted a Wal-Mart electronics manager in Raleigh, North Carolina to obtain a Sony PlayStation3 on behalf of the Senator's family. Later that night, Sen. Edwards reportedly re-told a homespun story to participants of a United Food and Commercial Workers (UFCW) union-sponsored call about how his son had chided a fellow student for purchasing shoes at Wal-Mart.

    Wal-Mart welcomes Sen. Edwards to visit his local Wal-Mart store and explore the extensive line of home electronics as well as the Metro7 line shoes for men and boys.

    The Company noted the PlayStation3 is an extremely popular item this Christmas season, and while the rest of America's working families are waiting patiently in line, Senator Edwards wants to cut to the front. While, we cannot guarantee that Sen. Edwards will be among one of the first to obtain a PlayStation3, we are certain Sen. Edwards will be able to find great gifts for everyone on his Christmas list--many at Wal-Mart's "roll-back prices."



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#651664 - Fri Nov 17 2006 07:41 PM Edwards in '08 [Re: the G-man]
Matter-eater Man
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This might be a good non-story for partisan republicans...except Edwards never asked for somebody to use his name to get a PS3. His wife mentioned wanting one in front of a staff member who mentioned it to a volunteer who then went out to try to get one.

Fair play!

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#651665 - Fri Nov 17 2006 07:50 PM Re: Edwards in '08 [Re: Matter-eater Man]
the G-man
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Surrreeeeeeeeeee..........
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#651666 - Fri Nov 17 2006 08:03 PM Re: Edwards in '08 [Re: the G-man]
Matter-eater Man
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I find it more believable than say a friend of the family arranging a safer slot in the National Guard during Vietnam.

BTW Edwards has been outspoken critic of Walmart, as much as you may want to believe the truthiness of it G-man, why would he solicit the chain he's criticised often?

Fair play!

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#651667 - Fri Nov 17 2006 08:19 PM Re: Edwards in '08 [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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In "Do As I Say (Not As I Do): Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy", Hoover Fellow Peter Schweizer reveals the glaring contradictions between the public stances and real-life behavior of prominent liberals including Michael Moore, Ted Kennedy, Al Franken, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi and Ralph Nader among others.

Among the eye-opening revelations of "Do As I Say":

    Filmmaker Michael Moore insists that corporations are evil and claims he doesn't invest in the stock market due to moral principle. But Moore's IRS forms, viewed by Schweizer, show that over the past five years he has owned shares in such corporate giants as Halliburton, Merck, Pfizer, Sunoco, Tenet Healthcare, Ford, General Electric and McDonald's.


    Staunch union supporter Rep. Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) has received the Cesar Chavez Award from the United Farmworkers Union. But the $25 million Northern California vineyard she and her husband own is a non-union shop.

    Ralph Nader is another liberal who claims that unions are essential to protect worker rights. But when an editor of one of his publications tried to form a union to ameliorate miserable working conditions, the editor was fired and the locks changed on the office door.


    Self-described socialist Noam Chomsky has described the Pentagon as "the most vile institution on the face of the earth" and lashed out against tax havens and trusts that benefit only the rich. But Chomsky has been paid millions of dollars by the Pentagon over the last 40 years, and he used a venerable law firm to set up his irrevocable trust to shield his assets from the IRS.

    Air America radio host Al Franken says conservatives are racist because they lack diversity and oppose affirmative action. But fewer than 1 percent of the people he has hired over the past 15 years have been African-American.

    Ted Kennedy has fought for the estate tax and spoken out against tax shelters. But he has repeatedly benefited from an intricate web of trusts and private foundations that have shielded most of his family's fortune from the IRS.

    Barbra Streisand has talked about the necessity of unions to protect a "living wage." But she prefers to do her filming and postproduction work in Canada, where she can pay less than American union wages.

    Bill and Hillary Clinton have spoken in favor of the estate tax, and in 2000 Bill vetoed a bill seeking to end it. But the Clintons have set up a contract trust that allows them to substantially reduce the amount of inheritance tax their estate will pay when they die.

    Billionaire Bush-basher George Soros says the wealthy should pay higher, more progressive tax rates. But he holds the bulk of his money in tax-free overseas accounts in Curacao, Bermuda and the Cayman Islands.


And, of course, a few weeks ago we learned that Mark Foley, who spent a good part of his career railing against homosexuals, was one.

In short, there's no dearth of hypocrisy in politics.

Edwards probably figured having a staffer make the call would help keep anyone from finding out. Oh wellll.....

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#651668 - Sat Nov 18 2006 09:14 AM Re: Edwards in '08 [Re: the G-man]
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Stupid. He should have got it from another retailer.

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#651669 - Sat Nov 18 2006 11:46 AM Re: Edwards in '08 [Re: First Amongst Daves]
Matter-eater Man
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First Amongst Daves said:
Stupid. He should have got it from another retailer.




That is why I think it was probably a case of an over eager person who tried pleasing their boss. It's not surprising that upon hearing Edwards wife saying they wanted one that somebody would try procure one & win some brownie points. Considering the scrutiny that figures like Edwards faces I doubt he would have ordered someone to go try using his name at Walmart.

Fair play!

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#651670 - Sat Nov 18 2006 11:50 AM Re: Edwards in '08 [Re: Matter-eater Man]
the G-man
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Matter-eater Man said:
Considering the scrutiny that figures like Edwards faces I doubt he would have ordered someone to go try using his name at Walmart.




As noted above, how is this any more unlikely than Mark Foley hitting on male pages while being an overtly anti-gay congressman?

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#651671 - Sat Nov 18 2006 12:13 PM Re: Edwards in '08 [Re: the G-man]
Matter-eater Man
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the G-man said:
Quote:

Matter-eater Man said:
Considering the scrutiny that figures like Edwards faces I doubt he would have ordered someone to go try using his name at Walmart.




As noted above, how is this any more unlikely than Mark Foley hitting on male pages while being an overtly anti-gay congressman?




Because he probably would have used another retail chain if he was going to use his name for clout. Foley got away for years with his many trips to "Pagemart" in part because of over eager help from the GOP.

Fair play!

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