Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
I would note you are the one avoiding the CIA & FBI intel. Russia helped Trump win. Why they did that should make you very uncomfortable.


I didn't ignore anything. I pointed out that, even if we concede your point, that is not why Trump won.

Even Obama is saying that isn't why Trump won:
  • President Obama is blaming his party's electoral losses this year on Democrats' failure to "show up" and make their argument all around the country.

    In an interview with NPR broadcast Monday, the president said the country has a "scrambled political landscape."

    "There are some things that we know are a challenge for Democrats — structural problems," he said.

    Obama noted that Democratic voters are often clustered in urban areas and on the coasts.
    "So as a consequence, you've got a situation where there're not only entire states but also big chunks of states where, if we're not showing up, if we're not in there making an argument, then we're going to lose," he said.

    "And we can lose badly, and that's what happened in this election."