It does look like they were mobbed around his car with clubs ready to bash his head in. If he'd suddenly unprovoked driven into the crowd, I don't think they'd be carrying clubs, be chasing after him, and be climbing on his car. It looks like if he'd stopped, he would have been pulled out of the car and beaten to death.
It's amazing how easily you came to that conclusion, especially since that video begins at the point of impact. In fact, that might be the only video you could have found that supported the idea that he was defending himself.
Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
As one of the YouTube comments said: "So, peaceful protestors with baseball bats and batons? For sure..."
It's at least possible the racist supremacist protestors were protesting peacefully and vocally, before the other side provoked and escalated it with weapons. And outnumbered by a mob of at least 50 or so with baseball bats, the Hitler enthusiast in the car just tried to get out of there. It sure looks that way from this particular video footage.
Are you saying that you completely missed all the videos and photos of white supremacist protestors in riot gear, carrying clubs, bottles, and other weapons?
You know they came to their "peaceful" protest with that stuff, yes?
Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
Rush Limbaugh had some good commentary on the Charlottesville violence:
"It's not just the neo-nazis... there are two sides involved in violence, why is only one side being condemned?"
First off, both sides are being condemned. Do you, Rush Limbaugh, and the rest of the right-leaning media realize that they are part of the media too?
Seriously, I'm amazed that entire networks, radio shows, and websites have been able to keep up this narrative that "the mainstream media is left-leaning" when there are entire networks, radio shows, and websites devoted to this narrative.
Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
Also, the double standard in the media going after Trump for not directly condemning the supremacists. Whereas Obama never similarly condemned black violence, and in TWO DIFFERENT EVENTS invited Black Lives Matter leaders (the black equivalent of the Klan and white supremacists) on those TWO occasions (after Ferguson, MO, and after Baltimore MD) to the White House, in doing so not condemning them (where Trump DID) and giving legitimacy to their violence (which Trump DIDN'T).
Please show me examples of Black Lives Matter committing violence. The one example I think you could be confusing is Micah Johnson, who followed the hate group the African American Defense League, but said he sympathized with BLM. Obviously, he wasn't a member of BLM. Or are you conflating the Ferguson riots with today's BLM?
I'm not saying examples don't exist, by the way, but I do know that crimes perpetrated by black people against police officers and others have often been attributed to BLM when no actual relation existed. I also know that, while I follow some right-wing media, you are far more likely to see a right-wing talking point like BLM violence than I am.
Also, yes, Obama should have condemned racism. Personally, I think he tended to avoid calling out racism from any side when violence happened (he was much more likely to talk about guns or the victims themselves), but I would have liked to have seen him call out groups like the African American Defense League by name. But that's still far better than trying to equate BLM and the KKK/neo-Nazis as equally guilty.
Last edited by Jason E. Perkins; 2017-08-155:11 PM.
