Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
I'm not the wishful thinker here. Run from the fact that it's Trump that is trying to use the shutdown to make people cede to his demands. He's causing this. Dems are ready to reopen government today.



Trump is holding out for 5.7 billion to build the wall, which was his primary campaign promise.

It is a fact that these same Democrats talked for years about securing the border, and now say it is "immoral" to do so.

It is a fact that these same Democrats funded over 100 miles of southern border fence/wall construction while Obama was president. It is hypocritial for them to oppose it now.

It is a fact that on the parts of the southern border where fences/walls have been built, illegal crossings, drugs and other crime have declined 95%.

It is a fact that illegal immigration costs the U.S. 136 billion a year, and securing the border for 5.7 billion, or even the full 25 billion up front, would pay for itself several times over in just the first year, and even more so going forward every year, for decades.

So you ask who is causing the shutdown? We all know the answer, it is the lying Democrats whose arguments are indefensible and hypocritical. Trump is holding out for what is right for the country. Period. The end.

With the shutdown, Democrats have already caused expenditures that far surpass what Trump was asking for, just to try and deprive him of a win. They are responsible for the shutdown, not Trump. Securing the border is the right thing to do.