Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
Trump is on trial because he tried to use foreign aid for his own personal gain and than tried and is still trying to obstruct all the witness and documents showing his corruption. Unacceptable and if your party makes themselves accessories than voters should boot them out too. You can get back to bitching about the deficit again.

Abuse of power is certainly an impeachable offense. I would note Trump’s team is trying to make this argument because the facts make the case for abuse of power. And also they are continuing the obstruction by blocking testimony and evidence from people like Bolton. That’s what guilty people do. Trump originally claimed he was blocking all this evidence because the democrats controlled the House. No surprise that he lied and is still blocking all the evidence he can now that it’s a republican controlled Senate.


No, Trump is on trial because Democrats by every reliable prediction are going to get slaughtered in the Nov 2020 election, and Democrats see slandering Trump with contrived Ukraine allegations as the best long-shot chance to possibly diminish Trump's popularity enough to have a hail-Mary snowball's chance in hell of winning.

All the evidence presented is that Trump DID NOT use foreign policy for his own personal gain. Trump campaigned and won on eliminating waste and corruption in foreign aid, and has consistently done the same with multiple other nations as he has with Ukraine.

Ukraine in particular is quantifiably the third most corrupt nation on earth, and therefore warrants the extra scrutiny Trump gave it before sending aid there. Multiple officials in the Obama administration as well cited corruption there and advised caution in giving funds to Ukraine. Which gives legitimacy to everything Trump has done with Ukraine.
Trump witheld aid to Ukraine for about 7 weeks, long enough to verify that newly elected president Zelensky is the reformer he campaigned as and person of integrity, before releasing U.S. aid to Ukraine.

Trump is not trying to "hide" documents and testimony "proving his corruption". Trump is protecting presidential executive privelege, where the strategy, knowledge and opinions of Trump and his advisors could be made public, which would expose Trump's hand in dealing with foreign governments, and expose those who advise him in confidence. If all that were forcibly revealed to the public, no advisor would want to speak freely in giving the best advice to Trump or any future president, for fear their honest thoughts and advice would be exposed at a later time.

"Abuse of power" is horseshit, an indictment that lacks any specific crime, because THERE IS no crime Democrats can credibly allege.

The facts:
1) Trump's July 25th phone call, classified until Trump released it, the first time any president has released such a classified phone call, shows no coercion, no quid pro quo, no intimidation, no demands on Trump's part in exchange for aid.

2) Zelensky's repeated public and televised interviews make clear it was a very routine phone call, no coercion, no quid pro quo, no intimidation, a very friendly routine diplomatic phone call.

3) The aid to Ukraine was released Sept 11th, long before the Sept 30th deadline.

4) the aid was released without Ukraine honoring Trump's request for a Zelensky press conference announcing an aggressive campaign to weed out corruption.

5) Democrats, including Rep. Al Green, have repeatedly said that it was necessary to impeach Trump to prevent him from getting re-elected in Nov 2020, because without impeachment Trump will win. Slandering Trump with a false impeachment narrative is their only potential path to victory in November. Hence the lying impeachment narrative.

6) Democrats failed to make a case for impeachment, and rushed through a 100% partisan Democrat impeachment vote, with the partisan goal of getting it done by Christmas. They trampled on Trump's right to legal counsel in House hearings, and rejected any exculpatory evidence or witnesses that would have proven Trump's innocence. In protection of his rights, Trump did not cooperate. The Democrats rammed through impeachment anyway, along straight partisan lines, several Democrats siding with Republicans, against Pelosi. And then Pelosi sat on the articles of impeachment for a month, for partisan political reasons. Now that the House failed to make the case for impeachment that was their responsibility, they are pressuring the Senate to do what they failed to.

All the lying, all the false narrative, all the violation of Constitutional rule of law, is by the Democrats. Trump is following his constitutional rights, through the rule of law pursuing his legal rights.

Democrats are pushing impeachment, knowing it is a lie from the outset, just because they are a majority in the House and can ram it through as a majority, but knowing it is a lie, just because they can. Their vicious abuse of power, and their majority in the House, will end in November.
Voters can plainly see what House Democrats are doing, and voters are pissed off about it. Democrat have officially become the Bolshevik party, but they've overplayed their hand. And exposed, they will be driven from office.