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Animalman said:
"While infertility is not an epidemic, it is a very common health problem in both men and women. According to the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) approximately 4.5 million couples experience infertility each year. This equates to approximately 1 in six couples in the United States."



I wouldn't define that as "so many" when trying to correlate distinction with homosexual couples' inability to have children. Especially since that number isn't a world-wide assesment. Furthermore, a single-digit percentage of America's infertile cases borderlines on nussaince(sp) moreso than a standing concern. If it was around say 25% percent averages for every country on the globe, that would make your argument more appropriately notable.

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Religious groups approach gays like they're diseased and that they need to be cured(actually, in truth, certain religious groups treat all people who don't believe exactly what they believe that way, but that's for another day). That's just not a way you're going to get people receptive to your message.



Fine. But that doesn't automatically make them wrong.