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Captain Sammitch said:
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Wonder Boy said:
Western civilizations have a right to defend themselves from the murderous barbarians massing at the gate.



But as many of us are to some degree descended from either the Britons or the Germanic tribes that pwn3d Rome, doesn't that mean that once upon a time we were the barbarians massing at the gate?

Technically, we're all barbarians except for Peejus and reax. If you wanna go on the original definition of the word and such.

But I still agree that a nuclear fireball would be a helluva way to resolve the Middle East conundrum. Fucked up on innumerable levels, but rather pretty to watch from a v-e-r-y long ways away!



Okay, touche, you make a good point.

After 1000 years or so of barbarism, we (Europeans, Germanics, Scandinavians, Slavs, Gauls, and others who were either occupied or outside of the Greek and Roman empires) had the Renaissance and the Enlightenment after a long period of bloody barbarism.

And perhaps, if we disappear, those who replace us will go through a period of barbarism and eventually rise civilization to new heights as we did.



Or perhaps this is as good as it gets, and with no "New World" left to discover, there is nowhere to escape the brutal social system that will replace Western democracy.