Originally Posted By: the G-man
Part of the issue here is that Ray is imposing his own sense of values on the rest of us.

Ray thinks that socialized medicine is a good idea, despite a certain amount of evidence to the contrary. Fair enough.

But rather than accept that there are valid reasons to oppose government control of health decisions, Ray has to assume that anyone disagrees must be evil.

The military issue is the same thing. Ray is against the war. Fair enough.

Again, however, Ray assumes that those who might see the conflict as necessary must be evil.



here's how i see it:
healthcare for kids good. veto prevents healthcare is bad. man who vetoes then asks for 5 times as much money in 1/5 the time to fund a war that is failing.
for those of you against big government and taxes, where do you think $200 billion is coming from?


Bow ties are coool.