Originally Posted By: thedoctor
 Originally Posted By: Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
I have to ask, Ray, why would you want the same government who, according to you, has instigated a false war, killed US soldiers and Iraqi civilians, fumbled relief efforts during Katrina, trampled civil liberties, created a bad economy, has filled itself with lies and corruption, and is 'evil' to have the power to decide if little Sally Sue can have her chemo?

that's an idiotic and loaded question.


No. It's a completely valid question that you just don't want to answer. You already pre-supposed that Sammitch approves of some government programs yet did not consider that he also disapproves of others when you asked him why the government shouldn't control health care. Why can't I put your own disapproval of how the government has acted when asking you the same question? The fact is that you're willing to give more power to a government that you've claimed is too greedy for it and misuses the power that they already has. You can either explain why you feel the government can handle this responsibility, or you maintain your non-responsive posts that only deflect away from the issue instead of actually trying to discuss it.

i think that we should always aim for a good working government that helps the people. just because we have to suffer through the worst president ever currently doesn't mean we should just accept that the government will always be fucked up and give up.
the government already looks out for our health by monitoring food, drugs, pollution and even police and fire and the FBI are all meant to protect lives. what exactly is the problem with them paying for healthcare as well? that way we all have health care. and if done right (which we should aim for) then it wouldn't be run like g-man suggests. it wouldn't measure whether or not to pay for treatment based on cost, but on medical opinion. because the government wouldn't run it like a business needing to make a profit like private insurance companies do.

Bow ties are coool.