Originally Posted By: thedoctor
 Originally Posted By: Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
but the point of this thread is that george bush is asking for 200 billion for the next year of war while denying 35 billion over 5 years that would help kids be healthy.


And we're discussing whether the bill to keep kids healthy would actually do that or is even necessary in this instance. It's more than your simple black and white statement to vilify someone you don't like and his policies. We've debated the war a good bit in this forum, so that's why I think a lot of people are concentrating on the health care aspect of it.


That's the same point I was making earlier:

 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
I think this is just a case of Democrats once again falsely demonizing Republicans, for something that is reasonable and logical.

PBS News Hour, Oct 3, 2007, Children's Health Insurance Legislation

The child care program would help families making up to $80,000 a year, who not only can afford health insurance, but already have health insurance. So if this bill passed, all these upper-income families would cancel their private insurance policies, and just take advantage of government freebies.

What would happen if Bush successfully vetoes this bill, is it would come back and the Republicans would change it from an 80,000-dollar-cap to a 60,000 dollar one (i.e., limiting it to families who really need the benefits).


This is just another political manipulation to emotionally charge the debate on a false issue.