Ray went after it too, yes, as did others. I'm sure they'll keep harping on about it and avoid the issue if we let them. I was just making a point that you did follow that carrot instead of ignoring it and just discussing the plan as you are, of course, the main point of contention with Whomod and Ray at the moment. Also, I did not see your last post as I was typing mine while you posted it.

whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."