Originally Posted By: Chant
well, the lying part, you can't really prove he knowingly lied. The torture part, has he said he condoned it? and the violation of International law, is that the thing with invading Iraq without a UN mandate? well, as you know, a nation does not really need a mandate from the UN to declare war when they act in self defense.
And that leads back to the part where you can't prove he knowingly lied


But it wasn't self defense. Right or wrong there's no real merit to that claim. At best it was a preemptive strike.