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Pig Iron said:
that's because his poster is probably in your bedroom right joe?

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Pig Iron said:
frickin' reds...we suck

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PJP said:
Red Sox are about to lose to Texas 10-4.

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Animalman said:
but I have to say I'm way past tired of hearing the argument that Damon makes the Yankees better because he's a "true leadoff hitter", and Jeter isn't.

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Yanks should trade Pavano for Pettite. You know the Astros will do it too.

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He's in the last year of his contract and the Astros want to unload salaries. It's a pretty good bet he will end up with the Yanks by mid-season.

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It's hardly an original idea of mine. I've heard quite a few "experts" say it's possible.

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they may ask for someone like Pavano

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Animalman said:
P.S-I think Steve Smith, the Rangers third base coach, is on the Boston payroll.

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jafabian said:
I'm betting when it's all said and done Clemens will return to Beantown this season.

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PJP said:
Yanks winning 4-0 in the 4th.

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Where is harley? I'm going away Friday for a week and wll not be near a computer. I need her to update this next week. I know Rob can't be counted on.

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Go Jankees!

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So where've you been? Busy with work? Major case?

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Work and personal have been crazy, but good. I'll update you when there's more to tell...

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Joe Mama said:
Look at my sig...that's all I'll say about anything.

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I try not to be cruel to the elderly. Let me know if Randy or Gary (roid rage!) or Moose or whomever need help crossing the street.

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Actually, it's dark brown. You might be losing your eyesight there...

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Oh, sure. It's ALL dark brown. (wink, wink) My mistake. (snicker) No blue in YOUR hair! (tee hee!) Nosiree bob! (chuckle) Not in YOUR hair, young lady. (chortle)

I like the "Go Yankees!" bumper sticker on your LARK, by the way.

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Yanks beat the Mets 5-4 today after losing last night thanks to Randy Johnson....again.

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That's nice, dear. All the Red Sox did was beat the Phillies 8 - 4 behind a gem from Josh Beckett and some great offense. Like the home run that Josh Beckett hit. Did I say that RHP Josh Beckett hit a home run??? Why, I believe I did!!!

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Kyle Farnsworth is a fucking scumbag piece of shit who should be banned from playing any form of baseball except (maybe) beer league softball. It was clear that he was throwing at Mark Loretta AND David Ortiz! It must be nice to know that you have Bob Watson in your pocket when you join the Yankees so you'll never be disciplined. And Mariano Rivera HAD to throw at Manny - the Red Sox own his ass like a pimp owns his ho! The whole Yankee team is a collection of scumbags, cheaters, and pussies.

(No one out-PJPs PJP like I do!)

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so is that why they bean Jeter 8-9 times a year. If a certain player is killing your team you have to after them......The Red Sux have been doing this for 5 years now.....we do it 1 game and you're upset. Anyhoo I hope they keep it up.

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The only reason the Yankees won

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but you're right, they definitely should have. it'd also be nice to get the rest of their split squad back.

the red sox have won the may pennant, once again

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Whoops. Silly me. I will fix.

I heard Sheff may be out for the year. And isn't Rivera's back giving him trouble? Christ, between Yankee injuries and Red Sox injuries, the Blue Jays may actually take the pennant!!!

Naw, that's crazy talk!!!

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don't gemme wrong, i actually prefer yanks using their farm and minor league systems moreso than the imports.

but, cabrera, phillips, long, cairo... just doesn't have the same punch as the team predicted to score 1,000 runs, "with ease" -- and it'll just take all that much longer to have them operate as a team if the roster keeps changing.

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Sorry, I watched game one of the Stanley Cup Finals. I was a baseball fan first, but Hockey is the cooler sport.

Fun Fact: Had Todd Jones not blown two games during the Tigers' seven game series against the only teams PJP cares about, the Tigers would have come out of it 4-3, with a split agianst the Yankess and a win against the BoSox.

It can't be said enough. In baseball, you are either humbled, or about to be humbled. Depending on how arrogant you are, the fall is all the more greater. Like that time the Yankees had a 3-0 series lead over the BoSox in the ALCS, but then became the only team in the history of Baseball to to lose the bottom four games of a seven game series. There is nothing more humbling than that. At least in Hockey, while the Red Wings were frist, in 1942 to the Maple Leafs, they weren't the last. But in baseball, the Yankees are all alone.

_{Disclaimer: Sorry to mention this Rob, it's nothing against you.}

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Seanez is a cuntface. Walked in the winning run. I hope he gets gang-raped by a pack of Royals fans.

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Pauley looked damn good!

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Lowered his ERA to 6.55, cool!

Boston promoted him directly from Double-A, which was a mistake, and now they've promoted Craig Hansen(who's minor league numbers are deceptively mediocre). Lester probably isn't far away. I know the pitching staff has had injury issues, but Boston isn't going to help themselves down the line by throwing a bunch of guys who aren't ready yet into the fire.

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Why? Pauley had 1 bad game against the Jays and 1 excellent game.....I didn't say he was the next Schilling I just said he looked good. He rebounded well after a shellacking....

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the game is on ESPN so everybody should be watching this right now. Especially PenWing so he knows what good baseball teams look like.

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Sorry, I watched game one of the Stanley Cup Finals. I was a baseball fan first, but Hockey is the cooler sport.

Fun Fact: Had Todd Jones not blown two games during the Tigers' seven game series against the only teams PJP cares about, the Tigers would have come out of it 4-3, with a split agianst the Yankess and a win against the BoSox.

It can't be said enough. In baseball, you are either humbled, or about to be humbled. Depending on how arrogant you are, the fall is all the more greater. Like that time the Yankees had a 3-0 series lead over the BoSox in the ALCS, but then became the only team in the history of Baseball to to lose the bottom four games of a seven game series. There is nothing more humbling than that. At least in Hockey, while the Red Wings were frist, in 1942 to the Maple Leafs, they weren't the last. But in baseball, the Yankees are all alone.

_{Disclaimer: Sorry to mention this Rob, it's nothing against you.}

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the game is on ESPN so everybody should be watching this right now. Especially PenWing so he knows what good baseball teams look like.

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Sorry, I watched game one of the Stanley Cup Finals. I was a baseball fan first, but Hockey is the cooler sport.

Fun Fact: Had Todd Jones not blown two games during the Tigers' seven game series against the only teams PJP cares about, the Tigers would have come out of it 4-3, with a split agianst the Yankess and a win against the BoSox.

It can't be said enough. In baseball, you are either humbled, or about to be humbled. Depending on how arrogant you are, the fall is all the more greater. Like that time the Yankees had a 3-0 series lead over the BoSox in the ALCS, but then became the only team in the history of Baseball to to lose the bottom four games of a seven game series. There is nothing more humbling than that. At least in Hockey, while the Red Wings were frist, in 1942 to the Maple Leafs, they weren't the last. But in baseball, the Yankees are all alone.

_{Disclaimer: Sorry to mention this Rob, it's nothing against you.}

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the game is on ESPN so everybody should be watching this right now. Especially PenWing so he knows what good baseball teams look like.

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Sorry, I watched game one of the Stanley Cup Finals. I was a baseball fan first, but Hockey is the cooler sport.

Fun Fact: Had Todd Jones not blown two games during the Tigers' seven game series against the only teams PJP cares about, the Tigers would have come out of it 4-3, with a split agianst the Yankess and a win against the BoSox.

It can't be said enough. In baseball, you are either humbled, or about to be humbled. Depending on how arrogant you are, the fall is all the more greater. Like that time the Yankees had a 3-0 series lead over the BoSox in the ALCS, but then became the only team in the history of Baseball to to lose the bottom four games of a seven game series. There is nothing more humbling than that. At least in Hockey, while the Red Wings were frist, in 1942 to the Maple Leafs, they weren't the last. But in baseball, the Yankees are all alone.

_{Disclaimer: Sorry to mention this Rob, it's nothing against you.}

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How fucking gritty is this Yankees team!

How fucking awesome are their young players....especailly Melky Cabrera who just robbed Manny of a game tieing HR!

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Hey, Pete - did ya make sure that Dave is aware that we'v e kicked his ass the last two games? Cause as his friend, you should let him know that.

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Joe Mama said:
That's what I said - charity!

As for Harley...I corrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrected her. The same way that you will be corrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrected.

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But if the Yanks sweep Boston, I just might...

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I'll miss you after I corrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrect you and dispose of your Yankee-lovin' body.

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Yes, I know you'll miss me! Pete's off chasing hockey fans, so you need me to sparr with...

But why do I have a terrible feeling that if you're the one disposing of my dead Yankee lovin' body, that my body won't go unmolested...?

...necrophilia

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As for the disappearance - shit, I think I've only been here 2 or three times in the last three months - what have I missed? Has Elisa given it up? Has JLA revealed his true identity? Do the Red Sox still suck ass? (Wait, that last one was rhetorical - hiya, Dave! )

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Thanks, it's been all good, 'cept for one shitty and sad thing, but what can you do except hope and pray? I 'preciate the thoughts.

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Rob Kamphausen said:
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...and then you'd eat the starving children!

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