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#234311 2001-06-12 7:13 PM
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im no cologero... i can't even spell it... but, the "bronx tale" brought up an interesting question:

would you rather be feared? or loved?


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I've found that in the past, it's nice to be feared sometimes (especially convient in my job), but in real relationships, it's loved all the way.

A few years back, I was put in charge of the training program at my office, and I ended up training all new people who came through. With an average training program that lasts 9 monthes to a year, I found myself swamped with work (at one point I was juggling four trainees at a time) and my nerves were frayed. I originally took the position on when they asked me because I thought it would be fun, but after two years, I was a wreck. I was a miserable person to talk to, began to really hate the place I worked at, and began having problems with my girlfriend even (She's one of the bosses there). I got to the point, that trainees of mine were going over my head and telling my boss that they were thinking of quiting because they couldn't work for me anymore. They didn't try to do their job right because they liked me, and they wanted to do their best. They were doing what ever they could just to keep out of trouble because they knew that if they screwed up I would be all over them.

Once the problem was pointed out to me, and I stepped back and looked at the situation, I realized what an asshole I had become. Even people there who I had considered some of my best friends stayed away from me because I had become such an ass. Even after I had resigned from that position, and returned to my normal lovable self, it took a long time to repair some of the damage I had done. It still bothers me a lot that I couldn't be there for one of my best friends there when she needed a friend when her marriage fell apart. She was the person directly in charge of me, and I let so much of my anger at the situation out on her, she couldn't trust me enough to even talk to me on a personal level anymore.

Yeah, people tried to please me all the time, but it was because they were afraid of me. There was no sense of joy in watching a friend's accomplishments or anything, because at the time, I really didn't have any friends.

We still have new people coming through the office all the time, and I still see trainers going through the same cycle of power-abuse and burn-out that I went through. Every new person who has come through and isn't familiar with the situation that happened with me has come up to me and said "God, I hate the way so-and-so trains. I wish you were training me instead." I've always just looked them straight in the eye and said "Be glad you don't have me." Then I explain to them what happened to me and just how frustrating their job could be, and they look at me with a confused look on their faces...

Oh well...They'll get it someday...


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im gonna havta say loved.

as much as the idea of being a tough mobster and/or batman tickles my spine with delight, be able to freak people out just at the mere mention of my name, or the vision of my presence... that just aint me, i guess. it'd be a cool every-once-in-a-while kinda thing, but... thats it.

loved is where its at. its what i want, its what i crave. i want that blind love kinda thing. where people'll love and worship me, for no reason what so ever. my end desire is most definitely to be an actor. a famous one! and what is an actor, if not an egomaniacal bastard, who only craves constant love and attention?


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For better or worse I can't do the No More Mr Nice Guy routine, everytime I try it doesn't work.
Oh ask some of my pateints and they'll say Im a right bastard, but thats because I have to gain control of the unit and get structure back in their life (even still anytime a patient returns I am generally the first one they ask to see). On the other hand alot of the patients really enjoy working with me and call to tell me how they are.
When it comes to coworkers sometimes I get pegged as a "bully" as one person said at work, but later they find out I just want to get things done right, which is what that same person later said.

So I gotta be loved.....


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My former job was as manager of a jewelry store. It was in a mall in an urban area...read: lots of young black kids as customers.

In order to operate the store I had to adopt a stern and ruthless persona. People had to know that I would not be fucked with. I would be reasonable with some people but, others would take that as a sign of weakness and try to get over on me.

For me, being feared worked. people knew not to fuck around when i was in the store or there would be hell to pay. I think that had something to do with us never being robbed when many of the other stores in the mall had to deal with that.

problem is, it took a toll on me mentally. It's not an easy thing being feared and hated. Especially when I'm not really the hard ass I made myself out to be.

Since my experience is being feared, I'll have to say i'd rather be loved. I've spent 10 years of my life cultivating fear as a method of control. I'm ready to try something else.


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I like being loved, but some people are afraid to love me.

#234317 2001-07-31 11:54 PM
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its would be nice to be Loved by Some... but more immportant to be feared

#234318 2001-08-06 6:12 PM
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id much rather be loved! it's cooler cuz more people want to be around you. if youre feared you have a few friends but wouldnt you be worried that they could turn on you at any point.

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decepticons and autobots, man.

optimus had friends all around him. they'd always protect him, n'stuff (or atleast try... stupid faggot rodimus...)

but megatron made everyone fear him. that way, whenevr he and the other baddies were threatened, the other baddies saved themselves and left megatron.


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who are those people?

#234321 2001-08-07 12:47 AM
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they're transformers. robots (in disguise!)

they're... transformers! ... like.. more than meets the eye.

...ahem...

think of it like he-man vs. skeletor. heman is loved and supported. skeletor is feared and betrayed!


#234322 2003-05-16 3:52 AM
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fear lasts longer, but i would still choose to be loved. the thought just makes me feel all squishy inside.

btw, rob, your mailbox is full, so i couldn't answer your pm.

#234323 2003-05-15 7:38 PM
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I would say the best is to be respected.

Fear may get you what you want in the short term, but eventually you will have no one who wants to do anything for or with you.

Love is better than fear. Love is more positive.
However if you are in a position of authority and you make a decision that is contrary to the person who "loves" you, then that "love" could dissapear.

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I have it both ways.....in all my personal realtionships......I'm loved. I also run a business with about 50 employees.......they fear me. My brother is my partner he's the good cop....and when the shit hits the fan I go in and clean house. But if I had a choice I would want to be loved all the time.......the other way is really bad for your blood pressure. [biiiig grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Quislet:
I would say the best is to be respected.

Fear may get you what you want in the short term, but eventually you will have no one who wants to do anything for or with you.

Love is better than fear. Love is more positive.
However if you are in a position of authority and you make a decision that is contrary to the person who "loves" you, then that "love" could dissapear.

You know what .....that's a damn good answer. [wink]

#234326 2003-05-15 11:52 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob Kamphausen:
im gonna havta say loved.

as much as the idea of being a tough mobster and/or batman tickles my spine with delight, be able to freak people out just at the mere mention of my name, or the vision of my presence... that just aint me, i guess. it'd be a cool every-once-in-a-while kinda thing, but... thats it.

loved is where its at. its what i want, its what i crave. i want that blind love kinda thing. where people'll love and worship me, for no reason what so ever. my end desire is most definitely to be an actor. a famous one! and what is an actor, if not an egomaniacal bastard, who only craves constant love and attention?

You wouldn't make a very good message board moderator, with that attitude...

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Zod would be feared!! For Zod shall torture and kill all those that oppose Zod and expect daily kneeling from all of Zod's subjects to show their loyality. If one of them fails to kneel before Zod by the end of the day, their nipples shall be ripped from their body and head ripped apart by the very hands of ZOD!! Zod is very disturbed individual, but you shall have to deal with it the best you can, little insignificant pieces of dung! :lol: [mwah hwah haa]

KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!!

#234328 2003-05-24 7:05 AM
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I've been feared before. People I work with, strangers, little children, etc.

I've also been loved.

Despite the hassles of love (and there are many), and the benefits of fear (oodles), I gotta go with love. I'm a nut.

#234329 2003-05-24 7:39 AM
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Yeah, I would rather be loved than feared, too.

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I used to work in a kindergarten, there fear can be a VERY powerful ally
And it works when the kids are being more than usual difficult to control
But love is actually best, because if I could get them to respect and like me I would get more obedience from them, but fear was sometimes necessary!!
That doesn´t mean I liked being feared, I think it takes something away from you if it isn´t in your basic personality

in general, I like being liked....and I hate being feared, despite what some might believe, there actually are people who are afraid of me without reason!
I don´t feel all to good about that

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Zod smells hippies... [biiiig grin]

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