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Right, so I'm watching The Daily Show, and they show a clip from the CBS democratic debate from Sunday, which I wish I would have known about, but anyway... This "dumb blonde" reporter, I think Stewart said she was from the NY Times, anyway, she kept asking Senator Kerry this useless, meaningless, idiotic question. WTF? I mean, why was she trying to label him? What does it matter if he considers himself a liberal? I mean, seriously? What relevance does that have? And what does it mean? It's just a useless label. It doesn't change what he believes, and what he stands for. I'm just glad that no one on these boards reduces themselves to that level of idiocy. And on national television, no less. 
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I honestly don't know. I don't know what the real definition of the term is. I like to think of myself as an independant thinker. If it makes sense, then I agree with it. If it doesn't, then I don't. So, some of what I believe may be "conservative," and some may be "liberal."
Does that answer your question?
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In my opinion, labeling is a softer word for stereotyping. It does the same thing - try and stuff people into a cateogry they don't completely fit, but people get less offended when you accuse them of labelling instead of stereotyping.
And if you guys think the reporter was an idiot for hammering away at Kerry as to whether he was a liberal or not, what did you think of her question, "Is G-d on our (America's) side?"
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I don't think I'm a liberal.
While I do believe gays should be allowed to marry, I also believe that those gay folk (and straight ones, too) should be allowed to own guns for fun and protection.
While I am all for abortion, I am against welfare. And ya can't be liberal by supporting guns and hating welfare.
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I'm pretty similar to FNB.
No on perpetual welfare.
Yes on Abortion
No on partial birth except if absolutely necessary.
Yes on gay marriage.
Yes on intermarriage
No on illegal immigration
Yes on tighter borders
No on amnesty.
No on guest worker program.
No on the glorification of violence and gangs in pop culture.
Pro-Isreal
anti-Pal "freedom fighter" argument.
Freedom of Religion BUT
Freedom from religion in govt. as well.
Pro-law enforcment/military
anti-wanton Darwinian capitalism (or NAFTA)
pro balanced budgets
anti-government waste/defecits.
For FAIR taxation
Against tax havens for those who can afford them.
Pro-Union
Anti-opportunistic union leaderships (UFCW/Prison Guard Union i'm looking at you)
Pro-enviroment.
Pro-Alternative energy.
Yes on gun ownership.
Yes to gun registration.
Yes to waiting periods on gun sales.
No on assault weaponry for the common man.
No on the treasonous confederate flag ANYWHERE! (they lost)
I dunno. Seeing the extreme rightward slant of this place, i'm sure i'm still a flaming liberal to some here. Fine by me. It drives me crazy seeing how the Democrats play into the demagouges hands by acting as if liberalism is some kind of slur word or something. If I were them I'd embrace it and remind people that liberalism brought them Social Security, brought them desegregation, brought them equality for women, the 8 hour workday, child labor laws. etc. etc.
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Pulled from somewhere other than my ass:
Contemporary Liberalism - In its current American usage, liberalism refers to a belief in the positive uses of government to bring about justice and equality of opportunity. Modern-day liberals wish to preserve the rights of the individual and the right to own private property, yet they are willing to have the government intervene in the economy to remedy the defects of capitalism. Liberals advocate equal access to health care, housing, and education for all citizens. They generally believe in affirmative action programs, worker's health and safety protections, tax rates that rise with income, and unions' rights to organize and strike.
On a more philosophical level, liberals generally believe in the probability of progress. They believe that the future will be better, that obstacles can be overcome. This positive set of beliefs may explain their willingness to trust government programs. Modern liberals contend that modern technology and industrialization cry out for government programs to offset the loss of liberties suffered by the poor and the weak. Liberals such as Edward Kennedy, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Paul Wellstone, and Jesse Jackson frequently stress the need for an involved and affirmative government.
Liberals charge that conservatives usually act out of self-interest and follow the maxim "Let the government take care of the rich, and the rich will in turn take care of the poor." Liberals prefer that govenment take care of the weak, for the strong can always take care of themselves. "We have rejected the discredited theory that the fortunes of the nation should be in the hands of a privileged few," said President Harry Truman. "Instead, we believe that our economic system should rest on a democratic foundation and the wealth should be created for the benefit of all....Every segment of our population and every individual has a right to expect from his government a fair deal."
Equality of opportunity is viewed by liberals as essential, and to achieve that end, liberals believe that discriminatory practices must be eliminated. Some liberals favor the reduction of great inequalities of wealth that make equality of opportunity impossible. Most favor a certain minimum level of income. Rather than placing a cap on wealth, they want a floor placed beneath the poor. In short, liberals seek to lessen the impact of great inequalities of wealth nd work to extend opportunities to all, regardless of their economic standing.
Critics of liberalism say the liberals place too much reliance on governmental solutions, higher taxes, and bureaucracy. These opponents argue that somewhere along the line, liberals forgot that governement, to serve our best interests, has to be limited. Power tends to corrupt, and too much dependence on government can corrupt the spirit, undermine self-reliance, and make people forget those cherished personal freedoms and property rights our Republic was founded to secure and protect. Too many governmental regulations and too much taxation tend to undermine the self-help ethic that "made America great." In short, critics of liberalism contend that the welfare and regualtory state pushed by liberals will ultimately destroy individual initiative, the entrepreneurial spirit, and the very engine of economic growth that might lead to true equality of economic opportunity.
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There was more after that and a summary of conservatism, but what's there is pretty darn good material, IMO.
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hmmmm, am I a liberal?
Dunno, I think I don't lean to any side, I'm kinda like in the middle, I want the best of both left and right.
Besides, if anything, I'm more of an anarchist
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the 8 day workweek
You might want to check that calendar.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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Thanks for reminding me about that one, DK613. I knew there was more to her idiocy.
So, stereotypical question, #2: Is G-d on our (America's) side?
What do you think of this question? Is it relevant to ask this question?
Actually, I guess it is, b/c I think it's obvious that President Bush believes this to be the case, so maybe she was trying to get Senator Kerry to shoot himself in the foot on this one and contradict the president. Just trying to figure out the motivation of this one.
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Thanks for reminding me about that one, DK613. I knew there was more to her idiocy.
So, stereotypical question, #2: Is G-d on our (America's) side?
What do you think of this question? Is it relevant to ask this question?
Actually, I guess it is, b/c I think it's obvious that President Bush believes this to be the case, so maybe she was trying to get Senator Kerry to shoot himself in the foot on this one and contradict the president. Just trying to figure out the motivation of this one.
Or maybe she has strong religious convictions, and she wanted to see if the candidates shared those. Another case of good intentions taking a wrong turn.
Either way, it was a dumb question because a candidate's religious beliefs aren't important as long as they can get the job done - as long as the candidates don't bear any prejudice towards other religions. I wouldn't want a candidate like that in office, especially considering the role religion sometimes plays in international politics.
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Or maybe she has strong religious convictions, and she wanted to see if the candidates shared those. Another case of good intentions taking a wrong turn.
That might be it. Remember how Gore tried so hard to dodge bringing religion into it that he got to the point where he wouldn't even say the word religion. "My belief system...." She might just wanted to see if Kerry would stand up and not hide behind made-up PC bullshit.
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Yes, but this is America... the land of the free... as long as we all believe in the same invisible man in the sky.
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I think I tend to be liberal, but like others have posted it's not all one-sided. On some issues I fall under the conservative side. Others I just don't know enough to choose one side or the other. I saw that bit of the debate where Kerry was being asked if he was a liberal over & over again. I don't blame him for not answering it directly because it's a dirty word these days. And since the Dem party has moved more towards the center, & Paul Wellstone (& a chunk of his family) is dead, are there even any true blue liberals left to say yes to such a question?
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the 8 day workweek
You might want to check that calendar.
Yep. Thanks. I meant to type the 8 hr. worday but it kind of got jumbled in my mind with the 5 day workweek.
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I basically think about the same way as Whomod.
I would add though that I'm for women to have a choice on abortion, but I'm opposed to it personally..ie I wouldn't date a woman that would consider it a choice for herself.
And abso-freakin-lutely not for partial birth abortion..how many people would ever need that procedure that can't opt for a c-section anyway??? Sounds like legalized late term abortion to me?? I don't know i could be wrong.
I no longer label myself as conservative/democratic/republican/liberal..I think it demeans me because the parties and causes are all mostly corrupt now anyway.
While voting yesterday I felt really shit upon that I was a declared Republican and had to vote that ticket...I had no say on democratic candidates. Which is bullshit because there was a democrat I would like to have voted for in the primary. That system is antique. We need to rethink the party system and have more available choices it is instituted corruption at it's finest. Why should I have to vote one ticket when I lean republican, but vote either way???
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Bumping this on account of the word being tossed around like so many frisbees lately.
Webster's Encyclopedic Unabridged Dictionary of the English Language, 1996 (Random House edition)
Liberal
(lib'er el, lib'rel), adj 1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs. 2. (often cap.) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform. 3. of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism. 4. Favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual FREEdom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties 5. favoring of permitting FREEdom of action, esp. with respect to matters of personal belief or expression: a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers. 6. of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies. 7. FREE from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant: a liberal attitude toward foreigners. 8. open-minded or tolerant, esp. FREE of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc. 9. characterized by generosity and willingness to give in large amounts: A liberal donor 10. given FREEly or abundantly; generous: a liberal donation. 11. not strict or rigorous; FREE; not literal: a liberal interpretation of a rule. 12. of, pertaining to, or based on the liberal arts. 13. of, or pertaining to, or befitting a FREEman. -n 14. a person of liberal principles or views, esp. in politics or religion. 15. (often cap.) a member of a liberal party in politics, esp. of the Liberal party in Great Britain. [1325-75; ME < L liberalis of FREEdom, befitting the FREE, equiv. to liber FREE + -alis -al] –lib'er-al-ly, adv –lib'er›al›ness, n
–SYN. 1. progressive 7. broad-minded, unprejudiced. 9. beneficent, charitable, openhanded, munificent, unstinting, lavish. see generous. 10. See ample.
Lib'er-al, n. One who favors greater freedom in political or religious matters; an opponent of the established systems; a reformer; in English politics, a member of the Liberal party, so called. Cf. WHIG.
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You might want to check that calendar.
8 day workweek? that's a definate NO from my side 
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Speaking as someone who would clearly be labeled a conservative I don't mind labels.
I think it is pretty clear that such labels are simply a shorthand way to describe a person's general political philosophy, and not a requirement that they abscribe lockstep to every single tenet of that philosophy.
For example, I'm an athestic/agnostic right winger, not a religious right winger.
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Ohh, thank God  Though I pretty much had figured it out I'm glad to see it confirmed. As my Favourite conservative, I thank thee G-Man. There is nothing worse than people who tries to bring religion into political, scientific and educational discussions! back to the topic at hand, no, I'm not really Liberal, I'm more to the middle. Because both left and right has issues and problems that I don't need, nor want, but they also have issues that I DO want!
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But isn't a European moderate the same as an American liberal?
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I'm a Classical Liberal in the Jeffersonian/Adam Smith style -- representative government, individual liberty, and the free market = good. I don't like calling modern 'liberals' by that term -- it debases the TRUE meaning of the phrase and gives strait-jacket socialists too much of a good name. The modern right in America is the true descendant of classical liberal thought -- the Left is nought but a loose collection of me-first crybabies who want to hand the UN their guns and pursestrings... 
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Love Me, I'm a Liberal By Phil Ochs (Born 1940, died 1976) Quote:
I cried when they shot Medgar Evers
Tears ran down my spine
I cried when they shot Mr. Kennedy
As though I'd lost a father of mine
But Malcolm X got what was coming
He got what he asked for this time
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal
I go to civil rights rallies
And I put down the old D.A.R.
I love Harry and Sidney and Sammy
I hope every coloured boy becomes a star
But don't talk about revolution
That's going a little bit too far
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal
I cheered when Humphrey was chosen
My faith in the system restored
I'm glad the commies were thrown out
of the AFL-CIO board
I love Puerto Ricans and Negros
as long as they don't move next door
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal
The people of old Mississippi
Should all hang their heads in shame
I can't understand how their minds work
What's the matter don't they watch Les Crain?
But if you ask me to bus my children
I hope the cops take down your name
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal
I read New Republic and Nation
I've learned to take every view
You know, I've memorized Lerner and Golden
I feel like I'm almost a Jew
But when it comes to times like Korea
There's no one more red, white and blue
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal
I vote for the Democratic Party.
They want the U.N. to be strong
I go to all the Pete Seeger concerts
He sure gets me singing those songs
I'll send all the money you ask for
But don't ask me to come on along
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal
Once I was young and impulsive
I wore every conceivable pin
Even went to the socialist meetings
Learned all the old union hymns
But I've grown older and wiser
And that's why I'm turning you in
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal
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The modern right in America is the true descendant of classical liberal thought
Yes, it's called progression. Yesterday's "cutting edge" is tomorrow's mainstream. It's been that way for centuries.
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I'm a Classical Liberal in the Jeffersonian/Adam Smith style -- representative government, individual liberty, and the free market = good.
I don't like calling modern 'liberals' by that term -- it debases the TRUE meaning of the phrase and gives strait-jacket socialists too much of a good name. The modern right in America is the true descendant of classical liberal thought -- the Left is nought but a loose collection of me-first crybabies who want to hand the UN their guns and pursestrings...
Horseshit, I-man. I'm a classic liberal as well, by your definition, but I'm way left of you on social issues such as human rights, guns, and international affairs.
Lest we forget, that bastion of free global trade, the World Trade Organisation, is a UN institution.
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Love Me, I'm a Liberal
By Phil Ochs
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I cried when they shot Medgar Evers
Tears ran down my spine
I cried when they shot Mr. Kennedy
As though I'd lost a father of mine
But Malcolm X got what was coming
He got what he asked for this time
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal
I go to civil rights rallies
And I put down the old D.A.R.
I love Harry and Sidney and Sammy
I hope every coloured boy becomes a star
But don't talk about revolution
That's going a little bit too far
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal
I cheered when Humphrey was chosen
My faith in the system restored
I'm glad the commies were thrown out
of the AFL-CIO board
I love Puerto Ricans and Negros
as long as they don't move next door
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal
The people of old Mississippi
Should all hang their heads in shame
I can't understand how their minds work
What's the matter don't they watch Les Crain?
But if you ask me to bus my children
I hope the cops take down your name
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal
I read New Republic and Nation
I've learned to take every view
You know, I've memorized Lerner and Golden
I feel like I'm almost a Jew
But when it comes to times like Korea
There's no one more red, white and blue
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal
I vote for the Democratic Party.
They want the U.N. to be strong
I go to all the Pete Seeger concerts
He sure gets me singing those songs
I'll send all the money you ask for
But don't ask me to come on along
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal
Once I was young and impulsive
I wore every conceivable pin
Even went to the socialist meetings
Learned all the old union hymns
But I've grown older and wiser
And that's why I'm turning you in
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal
Damn you for beating me to the punch on this one!
(And here I thought I was the only person in the world who knew who Phil Ochs was.)
"Well when I talk to people I don't have to worry about spelling." - wannabuyamonkey
"If Schumacher’s last effort was the final nail in the coffin then Year One would’ve been the crazy guy who stormed the graveyard, dug up the coffin and put a bullet through the franchise’s corpse just to make sure." -- From a review of Darren Aronofsky & Frank Miller's "Batman: Year One" script
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I prefer Bobby Dylan, but I know of his work as well.
MisterJLA is RACKing awesome.
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