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PS3 to use Blu-ray Discs?
Japanese PC magazine reports that Sony may be considering adopting the cutting-edge technology.
TOKYO--According to a report by Asahi PC magazine, Sony may be considering using Blu-ray Disc (BD-ROM) disc technology in the PlayStation 3. The news comes from an interview that the magazine conducted with Kiyoshi Nishitani, Sony's management director in charge of Blu-ray Disc development and next-generation home electronics. In his interview about the future business strategies on Blu-ray Discs, Nishitani commented, "We'd like to establish a ground by adopting read-only BD-ROMs for a home video game console".
Nishitani's statement does not mention any concrete plans, and he also does not identify any specific console by name. However, Sony is unlikely to allow its division to work on a rival company's console, or create a new peripheral for the PlayStation 2 or PSP just to read a Blu-ray Disc. The adoption of Blu-ray Discs by the PS3 would also help spread use of the format, similar to how the PS2 did with DVDs.
Currently, BD-ROMs can hold up to 25 GB of data--about 5 times the volume of a standard DVD disc---and double-layered 50 GB BD-ROMs twill be appearing within the year. Sony is also the first and only company that has a Blu-ray disc recorder on the market, one which carries the steep price of 390,000 yen ($3700). In July, Panasonic will become the second maker of Blu-ray machines when it releases a double-layer compatible Blu-ray recorder with DVD functionality. Sony will release a double-layer BD recorder by the end of the year as well.
By Hirohiko Niizumi -- GameSpot
Posted: 03/31/04 11:50 AM
Huh, kinda cool. Wonder what you could do with so much more space. I had seen these in terms of High Definition DVD's and such as well as HD-DVD, AOD, and Blu-Ray. Didn't think of it being used for games.
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definitely cool.
sony could use their discs, nintendo has partenered with panasonic in the past, and im sure microsoft will make a disc that holds 25.01 gb out of spite.
games could be huge!
... but i have three major concerns:
1) for games, CD capability is just starting to reach its maximum. a DVD capability peak is years away. is a whole new format really necessary just yet?
2) ps1 CD games had some loading times. ps2 DVD games had some loading times, often surpassing the original. jumping up 500% could take forever, unless they majorly hook up the system ram.
3) the cost! can a system that reads and plays BDs (especially with the above added hookups) be reasonably priced? are we looking at a $4 or $500 tag? can the BDs themselves still hold a $50 game? or more like a $80 game?
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Sony Adopts Blu-ray Disc ROM for Next Generation PlayStation
September 22, 2004
Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. (SCEI),announced today that it had begun preparations to adopt Blu-ray Disc ROM (BD-ROM) format as a medium for the next generation PlayStation®, the successor system to PlayStation®2 computer entertainment system.
Blu-ray Disc (BD) is a next generation high-density optical disc format that enables recording and playback of digital high-definition (HD) video signals and programs. BD-ROM format has a huge memory size of 54 GB (dual layer, single side), which is 6 times larger than that of DVD-ROM, and has the potential of becoming an ideal medium to distribute next generation entertainment content from movies and music to computer applications. Standardization of this format is currently underway lead by the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA).
MPEG2-TS, the signal compression technology used in Hi-Vision TV broadcasting, is also used in BD, making it possible to reproduce extremely high resolution HD video images. With the introduction of the latest high-compression code/decode technology (MPEG4-AVC, VC-1), playback of high-quality video images from HD video signals becomes possible even under a low bit-rate environment. On the computer applications front, including video games, the importance of a medium with the capability of storing huge amount of data and programs is becoming greater than ever.
The adoption of DVD format in the PlayStation 2 computer entertainment system played an important role in accelerating the fusion of music, movies and computer entertainment. The huge installed base of PlayStation 2 has also contributed to the expansion of DVD-Video. Likewise, through the adoption of BD-ROM for the next generation PlayStation, SCEI aims to take part in the development of a new market created by state-of-the-art technology.
Development of key devices, including a single optical pick-up that can read data from all three formats of CD, DVD and BD, is already on-going within the Sony Group. Research and development in optical disc technology with even larger storage capacity, as well as mass production technology, are also moving forward with high expectation.
With PlayStation, PlayStation 2 and PSP(TM) (PlayStation(R) Portable), SCEI will continue to expand the market and create a new world of computer entertainment.
There, now it is offical.
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i pretty much have the same exact concerns from march: Quote:
Rob Kamphausen said:
1) for games, CD capability is just starting to reach its maximum. a DVD capability peak is years away. is a whole new format really necessary just yet?
2) ps1 CD games had some loading times. ps2 DVD games had some loading times, often surpassing the original. jumping up 500% could take forever, unless they majorly hook up the system ram.
3) the cost! can a system that reads and plays BDs (especially with the above added hookups) be reasonably priced? are we looking at a $4 or $500 tag? can the BDs themselves still hold a $50 game? or more like a $80 game?
and adding s'more:
4) will the system be backwards compatible? either sony is developing a system that can read cbs, dvds, and maybe cds which will be enormously expensive, OR they're developing a bd-only system which ditches a library of about a thousand games (one of the larger reasons why ps2 was so succesful)
5) developmers! unless all three next-gen systems are going to use a similar format, there're going to be a lot of games only coming out on one system -- that might sound great for sony fans, thinking they'll get a lot of exclusives... but its not overly appealing to developers.
if, say, the new madden game comes out, it'll take forever to develop a game for a BD, then scale it down considerably to a dvd (if the other two still use that). so, the developers can either spend the extra time and money to make, essentially, a completely different game (or, perhaps, 3 games) or, they'll lose money by only releasing it on one system.
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Yes,but that has never stopped Nintendo using their own format.
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if, say, the new madden game comes out, it'll take forever to develop a game for a BD, then scale it down considerably to a dvd (if the other two still use that). so, the developers can either spend the extra time and money to make, essentially, a completely different game (or, perhaps, 3 games) or, they'll lose money by only releasing it on one system.
Thats why EA has other companies do the ports to gameboys and other less powerful systems.
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Yes,but that has never stopped Nintendo using their own format.
and what was the result there?
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Thats why EA has other companies do the ports to gameboys and other less powerful systems.
for EA, maybe. they're the largest third-party developer in the world (i guess madden was a bad example). but for a company like the now-depowered sega or capcom or rockstar or namco, etc (big ones, but not so big), thats a huge developmental burden.
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Yes,but that has never stopped Nintendo using their own format.
and what was the result there?
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Thats why EA has other companies do the ports to gameboys and other less powerful systems.
for EA, maybe. they're the largest third-party developer in the world (i guess madden was a bad example). but for a company like the now-depowered sega or capcom or rockstar or namco, etc (big ones, but not so big), thats a huge developmental burden.
The reason behind Nintendo alwasys using their own format is money.
Nintendo can make more money because developers have to pay extra to put a game on their format!
Where CD & DVD is pretty much public domain,Nintendos formats are exclusive to them.
Anyone can make a game for a Playstation without paying to use the media!
This is one of the main reasons why Nintendo games are usually priced higher as well!
On top of all that,software specific to certain systems is nothing new,its how its always been!
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3) the cost! can a system that reads and plays BDs (especially with the above added hookups) be reasonably priced? are we looking at a $4 or $500 tag? can the BDs themselves still hold a $50 game? or more like a $80 game?
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i pretty much have the same exact concerns from march: Rob Kamphausen said:
1) for games, CD capability is just starting to reach its maximum. a DVD capability peak is years away. is a whole new format really necessary just yet?
2) ps1 CD games had some loading times. ps2 DVD games had some loading times, often surpassing the original. jumping up 500% could take forever, unless they majorly hook up the system ram.
3) the cost! can a system that reads and plays BDs (especially with the above added hookups) be reasonably priced? are we looking at a $4 or $500 tag? can the BDs themselves still hold a $50 game? or more like a $80 game? and adding s'more: 4) will the system be backwards compatible? either sony is developing a system that can read cbs, dvds, and maybe cds which will be enormously expensive, OR they're developing a bd-only system which ditches a library of about a thousand games (one of the larger reasons why ps2 was so succesful) 5) developmers! unless all three next-gen systems are going to use a similar format, there're going to be a lot of games only coming out on one system -- that might sound great for sony fans, thinking they'll get a lot of exclusives... but its not overly appealing to developers. if, say, the new madden game comes out, it'll take forever to develop a game for a BD, then scale it down considerably to a dvd (if the other two still use that). so, the developers can either spend the extra time and money to make, essentially, a completely different game (or, perhaps, 3 games) or, they'll lose money by only releasing it on one system. my heart still goes out to the developmers
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