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Up until today I had never read a JLA comic. I read the Divided We Fall TPB and loved it. I want to read all of the current series, but my library is missing the first trade. What are some other good ones?


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The early Grant Morrison ones. Rock of Ages, Justice for all, World War III (a little blah..).

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The Grant Morrison ones are the ones I definitley want to read.


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Alright, I'm taking advantage of my libraries request policy by reserving all the Grant Morrison TPBs.
Are their any other ones I should get?
I heard some of the Elseworlds are really good.


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Morrison's stuff is pretty good, especially the first year and a half. Afterwards it gets a bit repetitive in places. Rock of Ages is my favorite of his run and DC: One Million is pretty good as well. Earth 2 is worth checking out also.

Can't really recommend anyone who's followed him on the series.

As well, I recommend the Giffen/DeMatties Maguire JLI stuff. Very different from the standard JLA stuff, but very good and hilarious.

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Also, the JLA/ Wildcats crossover is a good read as well. Possibly my favorite inter-company production.


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DC: One Million is pretty good as well.




Thats one I already got. I was going to read it soon.


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Also, the JLA/ Wildcats crossover is a good read as well. Possibly my favorite inter-company production.




Also written by Morrison.

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just buy the first tpb (New World Order) its only $5.


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If you can track it down, I highly recommend Morrison/Millar's Aztek. 10 issues, not traded, pretty hard to find, but worth it. It sets up some of what happens in the World War 3 storyarc(which I actually enjoyed a lot; Morrison's never been great at endings), and gives background on the character.

If you want more of Waid's JLA, Tower of Babel was my favorite arc of his. I actually didn't like Divided We Fall much, though seeing Hitch do the JLA was definitely a fanboy dream realized(albeit briefly).


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I won't be getting the single issues due to my lack of job situation.
What didn't you like about Divided We Fall?
I thought it had it weak moments, but the end to issue 50 shocked the hell out of me.


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the Morrison JLA is great stuff, really entertaining comics that hold up well to re-readings. i'd definately reccommend them.

i thought that Waid's run was ok, if a little overrated in some circles. then again i'm hardly the biggest Waid fan out there so take my opinion with a grain of salt or two.

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I liked Waid's run, but considering your taste I wouldn't recommend it, rex. Stick with Morrison's first run, then skip ahead to JLA: Classified. You may also want to pick up Formerly Known as the Justice League, just for kicks.

This is my advice to you.

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the oversized special that Waid did just before he began his run, with the aliens stealing planets or something, is something worth checking out. it had that Silver Age fun quality that Waid does really well and captures the more modern, widescreen action of guys like Morrison or Ellis.

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That's good advice. One of the best JLA stories, in my opinion.

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the oversized special that Waid did just before he began his run, with the aliens stealing planets or something, is something worth checking out. it had that Silver Age fun quality that Waid does really well and captures the more modern, widescreen action of guys like Morrison or Ellis.




That's the only waid JLA story i liked....besides tower of babel..


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The first 40 issues or so of JLI and the first 20 or so of JLE are absolutely hilarious, well, not just hilarious, they are really great..I can't say the gray man or extremists stuff is funny it is brutal and just great storytelling.....there are a couple of annulas and quarterly issues that are good as well...great stuff that will live in infamy..

Anyway JLI up to the Adam Hughes stuff is excellent, and JLE just had a bizarre chemistry that worked..


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The Waid TPB that goes right before Morrie's JLA is called "Midsummer's Nightmare", and it's excellent. It's about a world where pretty much everyone's a superhero except the superheroes, who are normal people instead. The parts when each one of them realize there's something wrong are great character moments. The story explains the transition between the huge second-tier Justice League of the early 90's and Morrie's Big Seven JLA of the rest of the decade.


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oh my god you're right, how could i forget Midsummer's Nightmare?!? that was great too.

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That was the last JL books I bought and thought it was great. My preference these days are the JSA though I grew up with both teams



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I'll pick up some of Morrisons trades tomorrow.
I don't think I'll get into the JLI. There's no characters in that group that I care about. And their all foreign.


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I won't be getting the single issues due to my lack of job situation.
What didn't you like about Divided We Fall?
I thought it had it weak moments, but the end to issue 50 shocked the hell out of me.




The main reason I disliked it is that it pretty much negated what had happened in Tower of Babel, when Batman left the JLA. I hate it when a writer does something that seems ballsy, then undoes it immediately afterwards. What's the point of even doing the story in the first place?

Really, I've always thought Batman's presence in the JLA was dumb, in the first place. He's nowhere near as powerful as the other current members, he's not a team-player, and global crimefighting makes it all the more difficult to keep the badguys off the streets of Gotham.

I'm also not a big Plastic Man fan at all, so his becoming this emotionally sympathetic character all of the sudden didn't appeal to me much.

It's been so long, I'm not sure I even remember the shocking thing in #50 that you're talking about.


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50 was the issue where they all reveal their identities, then the last page shows Batman drive up and ask whats going on.


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Oh.

So all the stuff with Plastic Man occurs in the next arc.


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I also have to give props to Kelly's The Obsidian Age. That was cool.


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The main reason I disliked it is that it pretty much negated what had happened in Tower of Babel, when Batman left the JLA. I hate it when a writer does something that seems ballsy, then undoes it immediately afterwards. What's the point of even doing the story in the first place?





To show that Batman is super-smart, needed in that version of the JLA, not to be fucked with, and a dick all at once. That was accomplished pretty well if you ask me.

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The Id storyline (heroes get split from their respective ID's) and Obsidian Age were great stories. The last issue alone kicked ass, there was great buildup too. JLA crapped out after that. This CSA storyline is okay though.

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The Id story was in DWF. I usually don't care for stories like that (aliens, extra dimensional shit) but I really enjoyed this one.


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rex said:I don't think I'll get into the JLI. There's no characters in that group that I care about. And their all foreign.




JLI's hilarious. Comedy genius.


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I'll see after I'm done catching up with the JLA.


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To show that Batman is super-smart, needed in that version of the JLA, not to be fucked with, and a dick all at once.




Pretty much every panel of Morrison's JLA proved all that.


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Rex, I have most of the early trades and then all the single issues after that.

I need to double check what I have at home but I'd be willing to let you borrow them as long as they come back to me in the same condition they're in.

PM me and let me know and I'll give you a list of what I've got.


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Thanks, but I can get all of them at the library. I have all of them reserved and I'll probably buy my own copies.

I got Strength in Numbers and Justice for all the other day. I'm about halfway through Strength in Numbers and I'm really enjoying it. I haven't read that much of Grant Morrisons work and I really like the way he writes the JLA.


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His X-Men was really good too. Very different and filled with a renewed sense of meaning and purpose. Which is why Marvel is now trying to bury it.


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Animalman is excellent too, it's waaaay ahead of its time, and it's now collected in three TPBs. Don't be fooled by the Bolland covers, though, the art isn't very good. But it's not unpleasant or anything.


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His X-Men was really good too. Very different and filled with a renewed sense of meaning and purpose. Which is why Marvel is now trying to bury it.




I'm on the third TPB of New X-men right now. My library happened to have entire run when I got the JLA TPBs.


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The two Doom Patrol TPBs they've put out are a lot of fun, all well.


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