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Most of us are sick of the same old faces fighting for & holding the two big titles on WWE (two big titles still doesnt sit right with me),so I got to thinking,if you took the usual suspects out of the equation (Rock,Hogan,HHH,HBK,Nash & Goldberg etc),who do you think should be fighting for the titles and actually winning them?
My personal choices are: Y2J RVD Booker T Benoit Edge (when he returns) Kane (you need a big guy) John Cena plus as a wild card non-WWE wrestler,Sting
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2003-09-03 7:24 PM
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Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, and RVD should always be in the title picture.
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2003-09-03 8:02 PM
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I`m not convinced on Eddie as a contender for the big one(s) but I do think he should always be in line for the tag & US straps as he is fantastic to watch. It would be cool tho to have him cheat his way to the top.
I just wish they`d change the cruiser title to light heavyweight so guys like Eddie could still compete with guys like Rey & Kidman for the title.
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2003-09-04 2:10 AM
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I'm not too sure on this but here's my take.....
Smackdown! WWE Title 1.Kurt Angle 2.Chris Benoit 3.Edge 4.Rhyno 5.Rikishi 6.Brock Lesnar 7.Undertaker
U.S. Belt 1.John Cena 2.Matt Hardy 3.Eddie Guerrero 4.Ultimo Dragon 5.Jerry Lynn (I think he'd fit in great on Smackdown!)
Cruiserweight Title 1.Rey Mysterio 2.Tajiri 3.The Hurricane (He needs to be back on Smackdown! so he can compete for this title) 4.Billy Kidman 5.Chavo Guerrero
WWE Tag Team Titles 1.APA 2.FBI 3.Los Guerreros 4.Benjamin and Haas 5.Big Show and A-Train
RAW
World Heavyweight Championship and IC Belt 1.Y2J 2.RVD 3.Booker T 4.Lance Storm (If they use him the way he was in ECW and WCW) 5.Kane 6.Randy Orton (IC Belt only, for now) 7.Ric Flair (IC Belt only, because he's a little too old. But if the right storyline came along I could still change my mind on that one)
World Heavyweight Tag Team Championship 1.The Dudley Boyz 2.Flair and Orton 3.The Playaz Club (Rodney Mack and Mark Henry) 4.La Resistance (You really got to hate the French)
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2003-09-04 8:38 AM
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Not Ultimo Dragon for the Cruiserweight title? Strange!
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2003-09-04 2:08 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Nowhereman: Not Ultimo Dragon for the Cruiserweight title? Strange!
Actually it's because Ultimo's a little bigger than the average cruiserweight (he's around the same size as Jerry Lynn and about the same weight as Matt Hardy, plus he's been US Champion before in WCW) He also could have a pretty good rivalry with Eddie Guerrero.
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2003-09-04 4:04 PM
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Yeah but it`ll deprive us of matches against Rey & Kidman.
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2003-09-04 6:55 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Nowhereman: Yeah but it`ll deprive us of matches against Rey & Kidman.
Actually, my intentions would be to use the US Title to bridge the gap, so to speak, between the heavyweights and the cruiserweights by having some of the top cruiserweights vie for the US Title every now and then, and having the usual top contenders for the US Title (including the champion) vie for the WWE Title every now and then as well. And don't worry I'd also have the odd feud between guys that aren't in the same weight class (ie, Big Show vs. Rey Mysterio)
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2003-09-04 8:34 PM
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Good contenters and possible champs, IMO.
RAW
World Heavyweight Championship - Booker T - Y2J - Kane - Ric Flair
Intercontinental Championship - RVD - Goldust - Hurricane - Randy Orton
World Tag Team Titles - La Resistance - Jindrak and Cade
Smackdown
WWE Title - Chris Benoit - Eddie Guerrero - Kurt Angle - Ultimo Dragon
US Title - John Cena - Rhyno - Matt Hardy - Chavo Guerrero
Cruiserweight Title - Nunzio - Tajiri - Funaki - Jaimie Noble
WWE Tag Team Titles - FBI (Stamboli and Palumbo) - Basham Bros.
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2003-09-04 9:59 PM
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I`d like to see O`Haire with the US title!
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2003-09-08 1:13 AM
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RAW World Title: Chris Jericho or RVD. Tag Team Titles: Hurricane and the S.H.I.T., Rosey. Women's: Molly.
SmackDown! WWE Title: Kurt Angle, Benoit or Eddie. Intercontinental Title: John Cena or Ultimo Dragon. Tag Team Titles: Zach Gowen and Brock Lesnar. Wouldn't that be fun? Cruiserweight TitleL Rey Mysterio or Tajiri.
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2003-09-08 9:07 AM
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IC strap is on Raw,US title is SD
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2003-09-14 10:55 AM
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I finally found a message board with some REAL wrestling fans! whooo hoooo!!!!
WWE Title -Benoit -Angle -Taker
World Title -Jericho -Kane -Rob Van Dam
Intercontinental -Hurricane -Steven Richards -Lance Strom
United States -Matt Hardy -John Cena -Rhyno
World Tag -Dudley's -Black Pack (Rodney & Mark) -Goldust & Storm
WWE Tag -WGTT -Team Mattitude -F.B.I.
Women's Strap -Lita -Trish -Victoria
Cruiserweight -Rey -Nunzio -Kidman
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#35309
2003-09-15 5:06 PM
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I don't quite have the grasp of the entire WWF/E roster like I did a couple years ago, but I'll try anyways: SmackDown!WWE: Kurt Angle Chris Benoit Brock Lesnar Edge Taker US: Eddy John Cena Matt Hardy Rhyno Cruiserweight: Rey Rey Juventud Guerrera(just sign him for fuck's sake) Ultimo Chavo, Kidman, Hurricane, anybody who can fly(I'd like to see them give Elix Skipper a shot, too) Tag Team: World's Greatest FBI ...? RAWWorld: Booker T Jericho Kane(with better stories and character) Ric Flair Goldberg(as a heel) Hulk Hogan! I-C: RVD(for now) Lance Storm Randy Orton elevate somebody new or underused and/or sign someone with talent Women's: Molly Jazz Trish Lita Tag Team: Goldust & Storm Hurricane & whoever Dudleyz
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Nowhereman said: I`m not convinced on Eddie as a contender for the big one(s) but I do think he should always be in line for the tag & US straps as he is fantastic to watch. It would be cool tho to have him cheat his way to the top.
You still think so?
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even now he could still be more entertaining than most of smackdown.
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Nowhereman said: I`m not convinced on Eddie as a contender for the big one(s) but I do think he should always be in line for the tag & US straps as he is fantastic to watch. It would be cool tho to have him cheat his way to the top.
You still think so?
As I have said before with the likes of Cena & Batista,its amazing how an opinion can change in such a short time!
Eddie just did not seem like world championship material back then (to me),but once he hit his groove,boy was he great!
In my defence though,I did say it would be cool for him to cheat his way to the top,so I must have had some faith in him!
Sometimes you watch a wrestler & think they are great,but you just know they aint world championship material (Shelton Benjamin comes to mind) but even they can surprise you. Who thought Shawn Michaels would be a heavyweight champ during his Rocker years?
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Hindsight is 20/20. I didn't think that he was championship material at the time either (mainly because he never was a main eventer anywhere else) Besides, who at the time thought that Vince would give him a real push? I know I didn't.
Anyway, what about the title picture now? Who do you think should hold all the titles now, Nowie?
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I think, at this point, that there's no need for brand extension anymore. There aren't enough guys or gals on the roster to justify it. Unify the redundant titles and go from there. Past that, I haven't watched enough to know or care that much.
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Who should hold the titles now?
To be honest,there aint a lot of choices (which is why the womens title & the undisputed championship should be cross brand titles if they are sticking with the brand extension),but for what its worth:
RAW
WWE title: Angle Cena (as a heel) HBK RVD HHH Big Show Edge Y2J (get him back) Kane
With the exception of RVD,all have been champ,and like em or hate em,they all have a place challenging for the title.
Possibilities: Shelton Benjamin (a long way off in the future if he develops better mic skills) Carlito (getting there) Chavo (as a face) Only other person on the RAW roster worthy of it is Flair,but he is too old........maybe a short run though!
IC title Shelton Benjamin Carlito Chavo Snitsky Val Venis Lance Cade Rob Conway Gregory Helms Johnny Parisi Daivari Chris Masters Flair Matt Striker
A far better grouping for the IC title,and a better heel/face mix! Also the heavyweight contenders can be dropped in the mix.
World Tag title: Carlito/Masters Conway/Dupree Tomko/Snitsky (a worthy opposition for Kane/Show combination) Benjamin/Haas (if he has been re-signed of course) Helms/Parisi Heart throbs
Womens title: Any woman who can wrestle Now Trinity has signed,get her on RAW asap.
SMACKDOWN
World heavyweight title: Undertaker Benoit Booker Batista JBL William Regal Matt Friggin Hardy Mr.Kennedy
Smackdown title contenders are just not of the same calibre as RAW. Yes they have some great guys like Benoit etc,but they just dont have enough people who have been given a really good push! Another reason the undisputed championship is a better idea!
US title: Matt Hardy William Regal Paul Burchill Sylvan Orton Mr.Kennedy Heidenreich Hardcore Holly Johnny Nitro Joey Mathews Orlando Jordan Simon Dean (with a better gimmick......*cough*NOVA*cough*) Steven Richards Rey Mysterio
Like RAW,the secondary title has a far better mix of talent!
Cruiserweight title: Pretty much anyone who qualifies as a cruiserweight,as they are all great in their own way.
WWE Tag title: Most of the current teams,plus some mix n match teams like: Matt Hardy/Rey Mysterio Richards/Dean Dean Malenko/Fit Finlay
To be honest the level of main event talent and possible main event talent,is so low right now,the only way to rectify this is to get rid of brand extension or at least unify the titles!
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i wanna see kane holkd the title for more than 24 hours. i am tired of seeing him used solely to job to smaller wrestlers to make them look tough, cause i mean they did beat the big bad kane. pfffft. or as an addition to a title match, makin it a 3 way or more just to prove how "tough" a match it is.
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They need to bring back Lazer Tron, and give him another run as the NWA World Jr. Heavyweight Champion!
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The greatest champion of this, or any other, millenium is David Arquette!
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