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It was fucking awesome. The man knows Batman, and he knows how to do a solid 22 page story.
We had detective work and a clever mystery to solve. None of this shit where Bats has a cool gadget every other page. It was just pure story, the kind of thing that made the animated series great.
It seems the post-Hush crapfest on the bat books has ended, a Ray of sunshine has come through the gray and grissly clouds of Hurricane Judd and its finally safe to spend your $ on a comic book again.


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I grabbed this out of curiosity and because I love the animated series. Figured I'd get a decent story and that's about it. Having read it, I can honestly say that I'll be picking up both this title and Morrison's Batman run for as long as the creative teams are on their titles. This was a very pleasant surprise. Makes dropping a good chunk of marvel titles that much easier.


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I LIKE IT!


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Sometimes I feel sad that I don't read comics anymore.

Not most of the time, though.


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Sometimes I feel sad that I don't read comics anymore.





This and the Grant Morrison run might break my two year streak of not buying monthlies.


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It really was that damn good.

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three cheers for the one shot! Hip...hip...


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Hoping to pick this up sometime this weekend. Good to hear that Dini hasn't lost his touch.



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Hoping to pick this up sometime this weekend. Good to hear that Dini hasn't lost his touch.


The women still say he's the best!





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Hoping to pick this up sometime this weekend. Good to hear that Dini hasn't lost his touch.




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I thought they were talking about you?!?!?



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It's Dini-rific!

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Can't wait till it's available.

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finally got'n'read it the other day.

i quite liked it.

i read this book shortly after finishing up the two previous issues of the initial 'one year later' story 'detective' and 'batman' shared. that was garbage. piles and piles of garbage. other than some cool notable batfan moments, like the return of gordon and bullock and some cool "we're back" panels of batman and cool newsuited robin... the story was annoying. and the wrap up / conclusion issue was some of the shittiest shitty shit i've ever experienced. shit.

all of which helped build up some of my anticipation for the dini book. that, and the fact that i've been looking forward to the issue, fan wise, for a little over a decade. sure, realistically, i only knew he was gonna write the title for like the past 5 months, or whenever i first read about it happening. but having the BTAS man write an ongoing bat-title has been a long running dream. every bit as cool as it would be to have morrison and miller write, ...before miller asploded, of course.

but all that aside... getting to the actual story...

i quite liked it. it wasn't the most amazing thing i've ever read. it wasn't blockbuster surprises or fantastic swerves. it was 'simply' good, solid story-telling. great dialog and fantastic internal dialog. a trait missing from the batbooks for quite at least 3-4 years.

i loved the smarts batman displayed. i loved his detective-like critiques of individuals around him, and their actions. i loved the way the book illustrated his strengths, and how he was constantly in control of the situation, 10 steps ahead of the game.

minor detail, but i also liked how the dialog boxes featured the 'playbill' art deco font that the animated series made famous, as opposed to the typical comic sans capital script. it was a nice lil touch.

artwork wise, i wasn't all that impressed. in fact, in many panels/pages, i was flat-out disappointed that a more prominant choice was not made. ed benes, or adam kubert, or damion scott, or mike deodato, or some one else would have been much more welcome.

at times, williams has a little david mazzucchelli / year one flare to his style, but otherwise it wasn't my favorite. could have been worse, tho, so i should be happy with what i got.

but the story is, clearly, what was most appealing. it was amazingly strong, yet simple. it didn't rely on the joker or catwoman or some other big name -- it was just the creation of a pulpish batman story that dini made famous during his cartoon run.

more than anything else, it really made me feel like it was just a set up for the future. like how 'batman begins' sorta washed all the horrifying retardation from your brain that 'batman & robin' did their best to infuse.

i really look forward to what comes next.


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So you liked it?


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quite!


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artwork wise, i wasn't all that impressed. in fact, in many panels/pages, i was flat-out disappointed that a more prominant choice was not made. ed benes, or adam kubert, or damion scott, or mike deodato, or some one else would have been much more welcome.




One thing that has pissed me off about DC, and especially Batman, for the past five years is how they put good artists with shitty writers and good writers with shitty artists.

When Jim Lee was drawing the book, instead of a guy like Dini, they gave us Jeph Loeb. And with Dini writing the book, instead of Lee (or some other fan favorite) they give us this guy.

Similarly, for a few years Ty Templeton and Dan Slott were turning out very Diniesque stories for the "animated" book. Any of those scripts would have, if paired with a fan favorite artist, been perfect for the regular book and made it a best seller, but instead they had Templeton and Slott laboring in the "DC kids" ghetto, churning out some classic bat-tales but getting ignored because of the art by bad Timm imitators those books usually had.

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artwork wise, i wasn't all that impressed. in fact, in many panels/pages, i was flat-out disappointed that a more prominant choice was not made. ed benes, or adam kubert, or damion scott, or mike deodato, or some one else would have been much more welcome.




One thing that has pissed me off about DC, and especially Batman, for the past five years is how they put good artists with shitty writers and good writers with shitty artists.

When Jim Lee was drawing the book, instead of a guy like Dini, they gave us Jeph Loeb. And with Dini writing the book, instead of Lee (or some other fan favorite) they give us this guy.

Similarly, for a few years Ty Templeton and Dan Slott were turning out very Diniesque stories for the "animated" book. Any of those scripts would have, if paired with a fan favorite artist, been perfect for the regular book and made it a best seller, but instead they had Templeton and Slott laboring in the "DC kids" ghetto, churning out some classic bat-tales but getting ignored because of the art by bad Timm imitators those books usually had.



The last Batman Adventures title was the best bat-book DC had post-Hush.


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Yep. If they had taken those Templeton and Slott stories, given them to Jim Lee or Doug Mahnke to draw, and put them in either "Batman" or "Detective" instead of the Loeb/Winnick crap, they'd have had a number one title and Templeton and Slott would be superstars right now.

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I picked this issue up today. Haven't read it yet. Its the first comic I bought in over a year.


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Actually the art is split by Williams and don kramer. Kramer will be doing 3 or 4 months in a row since williams has to finish 7 soldiers. After the art for that is done then the team will each rotate monthly.


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To be honest, I enjoyed this issue, but it was a bit of a hokey throwback.
Nice to see the return of the one shot though. I will stick with it but I can't say I was blown away.

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I honestly had no intentions whatsoever of picking up this book... but based on this thread, I'll give it a shot.

I did flip thorugh it, though... and the symbol surrounding every punch that connected started to make me mad...


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