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Starting in February Marvel is putting its most famous superhero through a mandatory costume change in Spider-Man: Back in Black, a coordinated event that runs through a number of issues of three different Spidey books including Amazing Spider-Man #539-#542 (written by J. Michael Stracynski), Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man #17-21 (written by Peter David), and Sensational Spider-Man (written by Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa).
Following the traumatic events chronicled in Civil War with his identity revealed (see "Marvel's Civil War Gets Major Media Attention"), Spidey is on the run from the "authorities" and forced to go underground and back to his black duds. Excitement ensues in this comic book event that is big enough to require its own explanatory title, the Spider-Man: Back in Black Handbook, which features a plethora of writers including Mike Fichera, Ronald Byrd, Al Sjoerdsma, Stuart Vandal, Anthony Flamini, Michael Hoskin, Jeff Christianson, Sean McQuaid, and Madison Carter.
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And, to be fair, one of my favorite friends there is blind and I take every opportunity available to make fun of that and we're still friends. That guy never fit there. He never got the spirit of the RKMBs. We're gonna keep an eye on the obits, see if he finally left or if he really did have a heart attack.
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Dude, and he's also in the black suit in the movie! Holy shit! What are the odds?!
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I, for one, think its brilliant. Fucking brilliant.
After all, if you've had your secret ID outed and you're on the run from the entire Federal Government, it only stands to reason that the best, simplest, way to get away is to...change your clothes.
Man, if only Saddam had thought to change into a different outfit when he was on the run in Iraq. He might be a free man today.
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I, for one, think its brilliant. Fucking brilliant.
After all, if you've had your secret ID outed and you're on the run from the entire Federal Government, it only stands to reason that the best, simplest, way to get away is to...change your clothes.
Man, if only Saddam had thought to change into a different outfit when he was on the run in Iraq. He might be a free man today.
Well, actually, a nice shave, a quick change of clothing, a little mixing with the COMMONERS.
Might have worked.
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Comic Book Resources CBR News SPIDER-MAN'S BACK IN BLACK IN FEBRUARYPosted: September 11, 2006 by Jonah Weiland, Executive Producer In February, 2007, following the events of "Civil War," Spider-Man will once again don the black costume beginning with "Amazing Spider-Man" #539. What's this all mean? Does this signify the return of the symbiont? What does this all mean for the rest of the Marvel Univerise? We spoke with editor Axel Alonso for more.
Hey Axel, let's get into it. So, you've got Spider-Man in the black costume again, huh? Give us the low down.
 In February, Spider-Man will be going back into the black costume. There will be a reason for this and in the post "Civil War" world it will make sense. There are a number of details that we're still working out right now, but we do know this will be the "Back in Black" event, so in all three Spider-Man titles and elsewhere he'll be appearing in the black costume. That will take place February through June. In July, that's when we're teeing up our next event.
So, Peter's back in the black costume. Does this mean the symbiont has returned? Does this mean he's just back in the black costume?
You'll have to wait and see. In the post "Civil War" world the black costume makes sense.
And JMS is still on the title at this point, right?
Absolutely.
It sounds to me like the black costume is, in many ways, a metaphor for what the Marvel Universe has become following "Civil War."
What I'll say is that it's a metaphor for how Spider-Man is feeling.
Wow. OK. A costume change is simply that, but does this have larger implications for the Marvel Universe?
Well, I hesitate to use words like larger implications because there are catastrophic things that have happened that involve buildings toppling, and then there is stuff that reflects on character, so it depends on what you mean by that. It's no small decision for Peter to go back into the Black costume - it's reflective of his state of mind. I'm not playing my cards when I tell you that the fact it's in a post-"Civil War" setting is relevant. A lot of things will occur in "Civil War" that affect Spider-Man on a personal basis, so he has good reason to get into this costume, let's put it that way.
I don't want to make this sound like I think Spider-Man/Peter Parker is any sort of wimp, but in many ways the character is one of the more sensitive members of the Marvel Universe, so this all makes a certain amount of sense.
Well, the thing about Peter Parker is he's very different from let's say Tony Stark or Steve Rogers. His role in "Civil War" reflects his role in the larger Marvel Universe. This is a guy who crashes on his Aunt's couch - he doesn't own a mansion and he didn't fight in World War II. In that light, if you take a look at something like "Civil War," Steve Rogers and Tony Stark come to this as full-formed adults with very firm convictions in what they believe in. Peter is like the rest of us - kind of always in a search to find himself. Of course, there are basic values that he has and we all know what those are. I think of him as being sort of the heart of the Marvel Universe - he's the guy who makes mistakes, corrects those mistakes and tries to get better.
Does this also signify a change in the way Spider-Man/Peter Parker will act in the Marvel Universe?
To a degree, yes, but it's also reflective of what he's gone through and what's acted upon him. Again, I have to be a little bit cryptic because there are story reasons why he's going into the black costume and, again, it's reflective of his state of mind and his reality.
One thing comic fans always wonder about are the long term affects of any sort of major change to a character. Here we're potentially seeing a new side of Peter Parker/Spider-Man. How will this play out for Peter?
Let's just say it is part of the long-term ramifications of what he's been through. All due respect, sometimes it's hard to answer these questions because it's almost like people want to know if this or that will have long and final earth shattering ramifications or something. Again, it all comes down to how you look at it. Some of the best stories are the more subtle ones. The death of one's parent, for instance, is that earth shattering and does it have long term ramifications? Yeah, on one level it absolutely does, but on another level it's a small personal story and then someone makes peace with that and moves on. So, in that light, we're trying to look at him as being a real character who's been through a real experience in "Civil War" and a real experience that has been affected by what he's seen happen, how he's participated in it, who wins and if in fact they really win, who looses and if in fact they really lost and who's still around when the smoke clears. All of these things are relevant. So, yeah, in one sense you could say it'll have long term ramifications. Will he stay in the black tights forever? I don't think it's any sort of spoiler when I say odds are you'll see him in the red and blue again. Again, the question is what does it mean to him at this moment, why is it crucial, why is it important and what does it reflect?
Now, obviously this storyline isn't just about a guy in a black costume. What can you say about what you'll be exploring in this storyline?
Again I have to be cryptic, but we know that Peter will be put through the ringer physically and emotionally. When the smoke clears he'll have to look at himself in the mirror and look around to see who's still standing. His relationships with a number of people will be profoundly changed. Again, even subtracting Spider-Man out of the equation, the relationship between Captain American and Iron Man is changed. For the long term? Yes. Forever? We'll find out. Likewise with Peter.
We prefer to look at these characters as being characters and not icons. They're going to bounce back from everything until we decide we're willing to kill them, and sometimes even then! [laughs] At the end of the day, what you're looking at is that the most important thing here is in February Peter will exist in a world in which the "Civil War" has been resolved and now he has to get on with the hard task of living.
Now, the next Spider-Man film features Peter in the black costume. Was the impetus for moving Spidey into the black costume based solely on the film?
For the most cynical fans out there who'll say Marvel wants Spider-Man in the black costume because of the movie, they're only 10% right. The beauty is we knew 16 months ago as we were planning out the thrust of "Civil War" and beyond, how all of this laid out beautifully for us to move into the future. So, the thing is the timing is perfect. We understand the motivations behind the change. The same as when we were planning "Civil War" and people would guess that maybe Cap would be the pro-registration guy and some complained that he would be, but then they saw how it was rendered and why he was motivated to do what he did. That's what's driving us right now. Character motivations and how they react to what's going on around them.
So, you're saying that it's mostly a lucky bit of synergy that the black costume plays well into your plans, while at the same time the film makers are making this change as well?
Right. We didn't have to reach for reasons to put him in the black costume.
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Now, the next Spider-Man film features Peter in the black costume. Was the impetus for moving Spidey into the black costume based solely on the film?
For the most cynical fans out there who'll say Marvel wants Spider-Man in the black costume because of the movie, they're only 10% right. The beauty is we knew 16 months ago as we were planning out the thrust of "Civil War" and beyond, how all of this laid out beautifully for us to move into the future. So, the thing is the timing is perfect. We understand the motivations behind the change. The same as when we were planning "Civil War" and people would guess that maybe Cap would be the pro-registration guy and some complained that he would be, but then they saw how it was rendered and why he was motivated to do what he did. That's what's driving us right now. Character motivations and how they react to what's going on around them.
So, you're saying that it's mostly a lucky bit of synergy that the black costume plays well into your plans, while at the same time the film makers are making this change as well?
Right. We didn't have to reach for reasons to put him in the black costume.
Heh.
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I always preferred the black costume!
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Me too. Doesn't mean they have to lie about why they're doing it, though. It would be easier to just explain that they were told the movies would put him in black, and since they knew they had to do it, they're using the Civil War aftermath excuse as a means.
Not to mention, I'm sure Mary-Jane will die in the movie, so, if that's the case, she'll die in Civil War. That's just an educated guess, though...
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I heard a rumour that Aunt May gets raped by Joe Quesada in the movie after she goes to a fancy dress party as the rear end of a donkey!
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I bet they're going to use a real donkey in the movie!
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Not to mention, I'm sure Mary-Jane will die in the movie, so, if that's the case, she'll die in Civil War. That's just an educated guess, though...
Probably. Or at least Aunt May.
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Or at least Aunt May.
How many times has she 'died' already?
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Spidey's Back in Black
Starting in February Marvel is putting its most famous superhero through a mandatory costume change in Spider-Man: Back in Black, a coordinated event that runs through a number of issues of three different Spidey books including Amazing Spider-Man #539-#542 (written by J. Michael Stracynski), Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man #17-21 (written by Peter David), and Sensational Spider-Man (written by Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa).
Following the traumatic events chronicled in Civil War with his identity revealed (see "Marvel's Civil War Gets Major Media Attention"), Spidey is on the run from the "authorities" and forced to go underground and back to his black duds. Excitement ensues in this comic book event that is big enough to require its own explanatory title, the Spider-Man: Back in Black Handbook, which features a plethora of writers including Mike Fichera, Ronald Byrd, Al Sjoerdsma, Stuart Vandal, Anthony Flamini, Michael Hoskin, Jeff Christianson, Sean McQuaid, and Madison Carter.
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What I'll say is that it's a metaphor for how Spider-Man is feeling.
Don't worry guys, it's a metaphor, so it's artistic.
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God help us if they ever decide to use the Scarlet Spider costume in a movie...
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Wouldn't it make more sense to have Ultimate Spider-Man wearing the black costume again?
I thought the Ultimate line was supposed to be more associated with the movies.
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I think the black costume is far too over rated, gimme the classic costume any day.
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I, for one, think its brilliant. Fucking brilliant.
After all, if you've had your secret ID outed and you're on the run from the entire Federal Government, it only stands to reason that the best, simplest, way to get away is to...change your clothes.
Man, if only Saddam had thought to change into a different outfit when he was on the run in Iraq. He might be a free man today.
Well, actually, a nice shave, a quick change of clothing, a little mixing with the COMMONERS.
Might have worked.
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I'm a fan of the black costume, probably because I loved Secret Wars as a kid. But isn't this his third costume in a year? In addition to the "I now in a somewhat creepy fashion biologically manufacture my own web fluid" change?
It can't be that the title is floudering.
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Wouldn't it make more sense to have Ultimate Spider-Man wearing the black costume again?
I thought the Ultimate line was supposed to be more associated with the movies.
the movie will generate sales in its opening weekend equal to nearly a decade's worth of sales for all the titles combined.
it makes sense to capitalize on it.
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Oh, there's no denying the logic is sound. I just wish they'd own up to it. Quote:
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I'm a fan of the black costume, probably because I loved Secret Wars as a kid. But isn't this his third costume in a year? In addition to the "I now in a somewhat creepy fashion biologically manufacture my own web fluid" change?
It can't be that the title is floudering.
Well, taking off the hi-tech costume makes sense, considering the new status quo between Peter and Tony. They could have come up with a better reason for Peter changing to the black costume, though. That "how he's feeling" crap doesn't hold a lot of weight.
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Outside of a stupid storyline, why else would they miss around so much with the character?
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the movie will generate sales in its opening weekend equal to nearly a decade's worth of sales for all the titles combined.
it makes sense to capitalize on it.
Why not just put out TPBs of the original black costume storyline and the Venom stuff?
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For those who doubted Marvel's reasons for the costume change: The cover to "Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man #17" 
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the movie will generate sales in its opening weekend equal to nearly a decade's worth of sales for all the titles combined.
it makes sense to capitalize on it.
Why not just put out TPBs of the original black costume storyline and the Venom stuff?
And I'm sure they will. But I'm sure the thinking is: why pimp only the TPBs when they can pimp the new books too?
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Not to mention, I'm sure Mary-Jane will die in the movie, so, if that's the case, she'll die in Civil War. That's just an educated guess, though...
Probably. Or at least Aunt May.
Mary Jane is going to die in the comics. That is a stupid thing to do but that is what will happen.
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Not to mention, I'm sure Mary-Jane will die in the movie, so, if that's the case, she'll die in Civil War. That's just an educated guess, though...
Probably. Or at least Aunt May.
Mary Jane is going to die in the comics. That is a stupid thing to do but that is what will happen.
I agree... killing Mary Jane is a stupid thing to do!
This is a cheap ploy to sell more comics by making the character more interesting.
And to make Peter miserable again.
Not to worry. They'll bring her back. Then kill her again. Then have a clone of her appear. And so on.... 
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For those who doubted Marvel's reasons for the costume change:
The cover to "Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man #17"
That cover is not only the worst-hidden 'movie-tie-in' I've ever seen, but, the art just blows. Who is that? Wieringo? Are they still paying him for his work? Look at the hands. It's like the Stay-Puft Spider-Man... 
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