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New proposed Airwolf movie
Article by Haakon Kjole 29 / Published 10 Oct 2006, 06:51
Hello airwolf fans, my name is Dale. I am from california and I am a writer. I am currently working on the script for the Airwolf movie via Universal.
I was asked by stringfellow1111 if I would post on the forum to keep all the fans updated and such on the upcoming movie. I have been on the site before, which I enjoyed by the way. Then after a few months of working on the script I was asked if I would contact a huge Airwolf fan through someone at the studio.
At first, I was reluctant, but thought to myself,´what could it hurt´. I continued to think about it and finally contacted him. And now, at last, here I am.
I would tell you about the script, but it may change because I am now intriqued to know what the die hard fans of Airwolf would like to see. An interuption here before your brains kick in on thoughts, 2 things...A few perameters given to me...Will be set in modern day and the helicopter used will be a modern helicopter, of which kind, I am not sure, but chain guns and rocket launcher are included in the firepower.
Please, give me your thoughts and opinions on what you would like to see. Please do not email me though, I receive many a day as it is for work. Reply to this message.
I will be sure to read each and every one. I know you may have many questions also. I will print any new information I receive and periodically update you on the the stages of the script. Thank you and enjoy. So, if this is true and there is a movie in the works, I guess I'm pretty excited. But I'm not sure how I feel about changing the Lady. I understand the need to update, but I guess I just don't know enough about helicopters to be confident that a more modern machine would fit the role better than the old modified Bell 222. How do the rest of you feel about updating the Lady? Any idea what helicopter they might use for this movie?
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Some dude says he's writing an Airwolf script. Don't mean shit. There has been no notice from a studio of a movie even being considered for production at this point. Even if Universal has contracted out a script, that doesn't mean they're going to spend money to make it. Millions of dollars have been spent on movies that never get made.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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Very true, but that still leaves the question: Is it possible to update the Lady? The type of helicopter, I mean.
Maybe this would make a good Developmental Hell?
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this would make a good Developmental Hell
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Some dude says he's writing an Airwolf script. Don't mean shit. There has been no notice from a studio of a movie even being considered for production at this point. Even if Universal has contracted out a script, that doesn't mean they're going to spend money to make it. Millions of dollars have been spent on movies that never get made.
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And I'd only EVER consider watching it if they bring back Ernest FUCKING Borgnine for it!!!
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this would make a good Developmental Hell
I have no idea what that is. I tell you what. I'll make a Development Hell thread for it.
And you fucknuts better put forth some damn good ideas in there too.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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I tried. Now it's up to the rest.
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But I'm not sure how I feel about changing the Lady. I understand the need to update, but I guess I just don't know enough about helicopters to be confident that a more modern machine would fit the role better than the old modified Bell 222.
The Bell 430 is the current rendition of the 222 model.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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Its a shame its Russian, cause the Kamov KA50 is friggin awesome despite its age! The KA50  The KA50-2 
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This from Mr. "Never change the vehicle"?  Honestly, it depends upon what angle they take. If they go more of a regular ole attack helicopter, there are tons of old an new machines out there fit for the job. If you want the more TV budget friendly civilian helicopter that you augment like the original, then there are several others out there that have a similar design as the old Bell 222.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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The Bell 430 is the current rendition of the 222 model.
Very nice. 
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This from Mr. "Never change the vehicle"?
Honestly, it depends upon what angle they take. If they go more of a regular ole attack helicopter, there are tons of old an new machines out there fit for the job. If you want the more TV budget friendly civilian helicopter that you augment like the original, then there are several others out there that have a similar design as the old Bell 222.
There is a big difference between changing the car in knight rider, to the helicopter in Air Wolf.
Air Wolf was more grounded in reality, with the copter being cutting edge at the time, and a lot of the stuff it did was real (they had gotten info from the military, but were not allowed to discuss what was & wasnt real).
With Knight Rider, the car was not the "inovation" it was all the tech that was added!
For instance, the dash display on a new Knight Rider would have to change as the puter tech in the real world has advanced so far since the 80s, but the car would not have to change!
The helicopter in Air Wolf would look a little silly being a "one of a kind" super helicopter if it looked older than current models!
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Honestly, I was just taking a friendly jab at you; but since we're discussing it.... Quote:
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There is a big difference between changing the car in knight rider, to the helicopter in Air Wolf.
Air Wolf was more grounded in reality, with the copter being cutting edge at the time, and a lot of the stuff it did was real (they had gotten info from the military, but were not allowed to discuss what was & wasnt real).
Yes, a supersonic helicopter is very grounded in reality. Airwolf may not have had a talking computer AI or near indestructible vehicles, but it was still very 80's TV fantasy.
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With Knight Rider, the car was not the "inovation" it was all the tech that was added!
So....... the car wasn't what was really important then, huh?
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For instance, the dash display on a new Knight Rider would have to change as the puter tech in the real world has advanced so far since the 80s,
But automobile design and construction hasn't? 
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The helicopter in Air Wolf would look a little silly being a "one of a kind" super helicopter if it looked older than current models!
Wouldn't you say the same thing about a "one of a kind" super car with a 20+ year-old body design?
The fact is that you have to look at the purpose of the vehicle in the story. A 1969 Dodge Charger will always work for the General Lee because even when the original show hit the air, that model was already a decade old. It fit in then and now with the common practice of the redneck South to find and rebuild old cars, especially the old muscle cars of the late 60's/early 70's(Dodges even more so because of the crazy MOPAR cult). The same for Starsky and Hutch because a Gran Tarino would convey the same kind of cool image in an updated version as it did in the original show (I'd even go to say even more so due to Starsky and Hutch making the Tarino a cool car). It's all about the image that the vehicle gives the character(s).
For that reason, an updated A-Team couldn't use the same old GMC van because vans don't carry the same 'cool factor' now as it did then. An update would more than likely have to use an Escalade or other high end SUV. This is doubly so for vehicles that are supposed to be technologically superior to anything else for the exact same reason you described. It'd look silly using an outdated design.
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I don't see a problem modifying a Bell 430 in place of the Bell 222 for Airwolf. It's a modern helicpter with the right look. Part of the purpose of Airwolf, and what made it so deadly in the spy game, is that it could blend in with civilian helicopters. Sure, it looked a little different, but it had no outward appearance of being a killing machine. It would have been perfect to use a pair of Airwolfs to escort Airforce One, or even to act as Airforce One in an emergancy, which was part of it's marketability to the F.I.R.M. That's just one example.
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Honestly, I was just taking a friendly jab at you; but since we're discussing it....
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There is a big difference between changing the car in knight rider, to the helicopter in Air Wolf.
Air Wolf was more grounded in reality, with the copter being cutting edge at the time, and a lot of the stuff it did was real (they had gotten info from the military, but were not allowed to discuss what was & wasnt real).
Yes, a supersonic helicopter is very grounded in reality. Airwolf may not have had a talking computer AI or near indestructible vehicles, but it was still very 80's TV fantasy.
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With Knight Rider, the car was not the "inovation" it was all the tech that was added!
So....... the car wasn't what was really important then, huh?
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For instance, the dash display on a new Knight Rider would have to change as the puter tech in the real world has advanced so far since the 80s,
But automobile design and construction hasn't?
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The helicopter in Air Wolf would look a little silly being a "one of a kind" super helicopter if it looked older than current models!
Wouldn't you say the same thing about a "one of a kind" super car with a 20+ year-old body design?
The fact is that you have to look at the purpose of the vehicle in the story. A 1969 Dodge Charger will always work for the General Lee because even when the original show hit the air, that model was already a decade old. It fit in then and now with the common practice of the redneck South to find and rebuild old cars, especially the old muscle cars of the late 60's/early 70's(Dodges even more so because of the crazy MOPAR cult). The same for Starsky and Hutch because a Gran Tarino would convey the same kind of cool image in an updated version as it did in the original show (I'd even go to say even more so due to Starsky and Hutch making the Tarino a cool car). It's all about the image that the vehicle gives the character(s).
For that reason, an updated A-Team couldn't use the same old GMC van because vans don't carry the same 'cool factor' now as it did then. An update would more than likely have to use an Escalade or other high end SUV. This is doubly so for vehicles that are supposed to be technologically superior to anything else for the exact same reason you described. It'd look silly using an outdated design.
But this is where you overlook everything I say!
The whole point of Knight Rider was that the tech was put into an existing car so that it blended in.
A Pontiac Firebird was not a one of a kind car!
The copter in Air Wolf was sposed to be unique from the outta shell inwards!
The reason I believe that KITT should be a Trans Am is because the car itself was iconic, and the star of the show.
Change the car to anything else, like they did in the tv movie, and it just isnt Knight Rider, its a car that does stuff!
With Air Wolf, an update of that necessitates a new model copter as nobody is gonna design a one of a kind machine military machine (cause that was what it was designed for) that is way behind current aerodynamics etc.
With Knight Rider (the original series) they could have easily stuck KITT in a far older car if they wanted to as the shell was not sposed to be "one of a kind" or look like it was anything more than a normal car!
As for your picking up on my "grounded in reality" comment.
Once again you thoughtfully chose to overlook the point where I said that some of (nowhere did I say all) of the tech was actually based on top secret tech of the time, that was provided by the military!
Grounded in reality does not mean there wasnt some degree of fantasy, it just means that unlike Knight Rider, which at the time, was 100% fantasy, some of Air Wolf was based very much on real technology!
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But this is where you overlook everything I say!
The whole point of Knight Rider was that the tech was put into an existing car so that it blended in.
A Pontiac Firebird was not a one of a kind car!
The copter in Air Wolf was sposed to be unique from the outta shell inwards!
As PenLee pointed out, Airwolf used a civilian body style to escape recognition as a military craft. Hence the hidden guns and rocket launcher. So, the same rules would apply.
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The reason I believe that KITT should be a Trans Am is because the car itself was iconic, and the star of the show.
Change the car to anything else, like they did in the tv movie, and it just isnt Knight Rider, its a car that does stuff!
I understand your reasoning. I just disagree with it. It wasn't the fact that KITT was a Trans Am that made it uber cool. It was a combination of everything together. The car could have been a Corvette or even a pick-up truck. That show really was about the technology and utility of the vehicle. On top of that, KITT was a character itself with a dialogue and chemistry with all other characters involved, including the occasional rivalry with the comic relief hot rodder or car thief. Ignoring a translation because of use of a different body style is, in my opinion, just the haze of an all-night nostalgia buzz fogging up your vision. The problem with the TV movie was plot as I had no problems with the prototype car or even putting KITT into a Chevy Nomad.
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